[Reaganwuzthebest]

Coming to a town near you if the liberals have their way.

[Mulder]

What is the Constitutional authority for this?

The tyrants are really starting to push the envelope (not that now is the first time).....

[DLfromthedesert]

So they find out what's on the paperwork; fill out a piece of paper and save it for when the state officials ask for it. BTW, if it's a STATE law, how does the BATF get involved?

[Mulder]

bang

[TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig]

That's a unique way to get to the means.

Maybe they can make drive through emmissions test stalls only big enough to get a geo metro through. That ought to take care of those SUVs.

[OldPossum]

The headline implies something other than what the article states. As I read it, the new law creates a delay--not a prohibition--of gun sales.

[Free the USA]

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[GailA]

btt

[concerned about politics]

"Here's a list of all arms owners in Oregon. Now go collect them - for the good of the socialist whole."
Welcome to the new Untited Socialist States of America. Raise the flag of the hammer and sickle for the pledge.

I hope the NRA is onto this.
Give 'the collective' an inch, and they'll take the whole country.

[Mixer]

I don't own a gun but I do believe that it is every American's right to own one if they want to. Making guns illegal to buy will not hurt criminals because they rarely get legally anyway. Say no to Oregon and prtect your right to bear arms.

[A6M3]

Reply to post #1: If the reds can make you fill out a form every time you excercise your second amendment rights they can and will do it every time you wish to excercise your first amendment rights. Chiang Kai Shek said it all when asked during the Japanese occupation why he wanted to fight reds instead of Japanese. His response was "Japanese are a disease of the skin, communists are a disease of the soul". Unless American's realize that all of America's institutions, both government and civil, have been infected with this marxist malignancy and take the necessary steps to remove and destroy it, it like all cancers, will destroy its host.

[68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub]

"The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms regulates the new program."

See, no problem here. The US Attorney General is in charge of the ATF and the Attorney General is pro 2nd amendment.

[cruiserman]

Regulations recently passed by the Oregon Legislature require business owners to fill out paperwork anytime they sell or transfer ownership of a gun. Without the form, the sale is illegal.

I don't get it. Currently the ATF requires this with the 4473 form.

[SpookBrat]

*ping*

[John Jorsett]

Didn't they have a similar situation in Maryland, where a new law required firearms manufacturers to supply spent bullets and shell casings, and the manufacturers couldn't comply so sales were effectively stopped? What ever happened there?

[DBrow]

Similar to Massachusetts. The AG wrote a complex set of regulations requiring that "all" firearms be tested- fired hundreds of times, dropped on concrete, accuracy test- and so on (more at G.O.A.L.), all testing to be performed by approved labs. To date, no approved labs have been identified and many gun shops have closed since there is no way to sell much of their "used" inventory. It is also difficult to buy a new Glock, the AG won't approve test results. An IDPA shooter I know won a nice new Glock at a match in NH, but cannot take posession in MA.

What if Oregon never issues the correct forms, and starts busting shops for illegally selling guns? The State uses tax money for court, and the shops use their own to defend.

[nickcarraway]

Even if you want to kill yourself?

[Mr. Bungle]

I figure if the First Amendment is ever going to catch up to the Second Amendment in its infringements, it still has a way to go. Get cracking, Congress!

So in that spirit, I offer these suggestions to our fine, constitutionally-minded legislators pondering this important matter. For the children, of course:

• Print ads 60 days before an election must be read at a rate no more than 1 word per second. Speed readers and fast talkers (referred to as fully automatic) will hereby be prohibited from engaging in civilian political speech. They will be reserved for government and law enforcement use only.

• 'High-capacity' words that might mean a lot, like 'epistemology', 'Constitution' or 'macroeconomics' will be prohibited from political speech. No word used in a political advertisement by a civilian may contain more than 10 letters. Words and ideas such 'racism', 'hate', 'Enron' and 'Marxism' fall under the capacity limit, and are thus permissible for civilian use.

• Words and phrases describing entities, such that can be descibed by acronyms, thus collapsable and easy to conceal, will be prohibited from use in civilian political speech. These include acronyms such as CFR, GAO, FBI, IRS, DEA, CIA, ATF, POTUS, FLOTUS, SCOTUS, and BOHICA. Words that can apply to a large group with a single usage must not be manually truncated below a certain length. "Sawed-off" words such "gub'mint", "libs", and "pols" will be prohibited from use in the political speech of civilians.

• Political speech and ideas sent from one private individual to another via any medium (mail or other carrier) must be accompanied by an FBI background check of the person receiving the political speech and ideas in question. Failure to meet acceptible standards for posession of that speech will result in the prohibition of the recipient from receiving any further political speech, until such time as posession of that speech or idea is approved by the Federal Government.

• Political speech in one state may not be freely transported to another state. Speech must be sent via a federally registered speech licensee (FSL). However, political speech mentioning the FSL, if employing the acronym and thus easily concealed by civilians, is banned.

• Some small words, which are small enough to be used by any civilian, in some states will require a license to use. Words such as "vote", "recall", or "impeach."

As you can see, the First Amendment has a lot of catching up to do. Good to see our legislators so hard at work at it!

[MileHi]

Head shots defeat body armour...

[Travis McGee]

The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms regulates the new program.

HUH? Is this a state program? Where's F-Troop come into it?