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Oceans rise and fall. Glaciers melt and freeze. Wow! Things change-- what a concept!
1 posted on 02/17/2002 9:25:18 AM PST by Clara Lou
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To: Clara Lou
Great! That’ll be another 100 feet of inland shoreline for me to enjoy in my boat!
2 posted on 02/17/2002 9:28:57 AM PST by angkor
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To: Clara Lou
If it means that somehow Chappaqua would be under water, then I'm all for it!
3 posted on 02/17/2002 9:36:19 AM PST by OldFriend
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To: Clara Lou
I don't see how the Democrats can get worked-up over this . . . won't it only affect the rich?
4 posted on 02/17/2002 9:38:53 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: Clara Lou
More BS from the Politicians in Labcoats.

I seem to remember reading an article in the not-too-distant past that dealt with ocean depth and global warming (the study was carried out by REAL scientists, not the frauds involved in climatology). Basically, it was found that ocean depth hadn't increased at all, and that it may have instead gone down very slightly. So much for the global warming kook theories that the media loves to bandy about.

I'll try to find the article, although I'm pretty sure I found it at the Junk Science web site.

5 posted on 02/17/2002 9:41:09 AM PST by Major Matt Mason
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To: Clara Lou
All right! My land in Worcester, MA, will be ocean front property soon! Kool!
6 posted on 02/17/2002 9:46:07 AM PST by pabianice
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To: Clara Lou
A physical impossibility, fill a glass or beaker with ice add water until a membrane forms (the effect of surface tension).

Make a bet with an envoironmental agitator.Wait till the ice melts and water level falls. Collect bet.

As Winston Churchill said "Men occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of them pick themselves up and hurry off as if nothing has happened."

9 posted on 02/17/2002 9:53:38 AM PST by ijcr
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To: Clara Lou
This is great!!! LA and New York (as well as several other bastions of statism) would go under water. Then the time it would take them to start all over again just might ensure my grandchildren could live with as much freedom as I had when I was a teenager in the 70's!
10 posted on 02/17/2002 9:56:03 AM PST by joeyman
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To: Clara Lou
some researchers suggest that global warming may have brought on El Nino more frequently ...

Nothing like making your arguement with an unsubstanciated piece of propaganda like this. This is theory and most likely a drug induced bit of enviro-crapola at that.

12 posted on 02/17/2002 10:30:56 AM PST by satchmodog9
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To: Clara Lou
This report should remove any remaining doubt. Scientists have now conclusively proven that when ice melts it turns to water.

Global warming, on the other hand, is still an unsubstantiated theory

13 posted on 02/17/2002 10:40:36 AM PST by Bubba_Leroy
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Oceanographers will be scrutinizing the Pacific this spring to see whether more warm water rises to its surface, which could trigger a full-fledged El Niño.

With a line like this, how can I take the rest of Alexandra's writing seriously? Duh, warm water is always on the surface, it doesn't rise from below. Anybody who pays attention to real weather news knows that an El Nino condition is caused by strong easterly winds blowing warm water across the equatorial Pacific towards the Americas.

I wonder what a partial El Nino is like?

15 posted on 02/17/2002 10:48:07 AM PST by jimtorr
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To: Clara Lou
My bay front house sits on 16' pilings, I'll still be OK.
16 posted on 02/17/2002 10:49:40 AM PST by Ditter
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To: Clara Lou;Global Warming Hoax
See this:

Antarctica Cooling Despite Supposed Global Warming

Antartica is storing more water!

To find all articles tagged or indexed using Global Warming Hoax

Click here: Global Warming Hoax

18 posted on 02/17/2002 10:59:40 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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scientists said Saturday

Ah, but what did they say Sunday? These predictions have a way of changing.

19 posted on 02/17/2002 11:21:57 AM PST by Cicero
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Not in dispute is the fact that warmer global temperatures are causing glaciers to melt at the fastest rate in 5,000 years, Dr. Meier said.

I hate to dispute, but this "fact" is the subject of fierce debate. To flippently say it is not in dispute is a distortion (ie: my cat and I never argue about this), or an outright lie.

Further, what about the reports a few weeks ago that the western Antartic ice sheet was getting thicker (adding ice, therefore taking up existing liquid water), and that Antarctica is getting colder.

Whatever the real truth may be, it is an obvious conclusion that changing public policy (laws, regulations, Kyoto, etc) based on such contradictory and contentious theories is assinine at best and criminally negligent at worst.

20 posted on 02/17/2002 11:30:05 AM PST by lafroste
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To: Clara Lou
If all the ice melts, will we be stuck drinking warm drinks? 

21 posted on 02/17/2002 11:54:59 AM PST by Jeff Chandler
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The NASA scientist who first sounded the warning of global warming now says it may just be a normal Earth cycle,
WOW what a revelation:
NASA extinguishes global-warming fire
22 posted on 02/17/2002 12:07:33 PM PST by Bowana
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Dr. Meier acknowledged that his study is "data-poor," because glacier records aren't kept the same way worldwide. But his results fit into a larger, scientifically accepted picture of the world's ice wasting away at an ever-faster rate.

No facts but the conclusion fits the theory. Ok. Whatever.

23 posted on 02/17/2002 12:37:17 PM PST by VRWC_minion
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I couldn't let this pass without letting the DMN know my take on this B.S.
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Editor
Dallas Morning News
Dallas, TX

Dear Editor,

In today's Alexandra Witze article entitled "Experts: Glacier melting, sea rise underestimated", it would seem that Ms. Witze did a poor job of expert selection. Her statement "That melting could combine with other factors to bring total sea level rise to between 1 and 2 feet" is unsupported by facts.

In a recent study by a University of Illinois (Chicago) team, as reported in Nature, data was collected and analyzed from all weather stations in Antarctica. They concluded that, rather than warming, the average temperature in Antarctica had fallen by 0.7 C per decade. These results shoot holes in theories about claiming global warming, since the impact is supposedly magnified at the poles. The study further concluded that estimates of future rises in sea level may not be accurate.

Probably the very best evidence that the seas aren't rising (in spite of hysterical claims to the contrary) is contained in the work of Thomas Lempriere, who on July 1st, 1841, after much research, carved several notches on a cliff face partially covered by the sea, at a place in southern Australia called Isle of the Dead. Lempriere's permanent mark proves that the tides haven't risen in over 160 years.

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For FReepers interested in Lempriere's work, please see:

The Isle of the Dead

This link told me everything I will ever need to know about global warming.

24 posted on 02/17/2002 7:54:09 PM PST by Jolly Green
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i was hoping for a bigger rise.

i live about 6 miles inland from the pacific at 300 feet.

we'd like an ocean view, too.

26 posted on 02/18/2002 2:01:29 PM PST by ken21
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Can you imagine living in Ohio if we didn't have global warming in the past? (Hint: it was covered by a glacier)

Earth happens... get over it.

27 posted on 02/18/2002 2:02:34 PM PST by 69ConvertibleFirebird
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