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How schools are tricked into using PCs--when Macs are better
Zdnet ^ | 2/11/02 | Bob Shier

Posted on 02/12/2002 4:51:44 AM PST by Vermonter

Editor's note: AnchorDesk is pleased to present guest columnist Bob Shier. A public school educator for more than 30 years, Shier lives in the Kansas City, Missouri area.

As an instructor of computer literacy in an all-Windows environment, I'm sometimes asked "would I ever consider using a Mac?" My answer: in a heartbeat!

So why am I teaching on Windows machines? Two reasons: peer pressure (we all accept that adolescents are slavishly conformist, but don't always recognize that the herd instinct is still present among adults), and false economies.

OFTEN, "fiscal responsibility" is cited as the reason to choose Windows over Macs. I suggest that there are two kinds of economy involved here: an out-of-the-box economy, and a down-the-road economy.

Of course, schools buy the cheapest boxes they can find--we're taxpayer funded, after all. Windows machines can be purchased for a somewhat lower initial investment.

Almost at once, however, the down-the-road aspect of the platform decision comes into play.

Here's my historical perspective.

FOR TEN YEARS, our school had an all-Mac lab. After a couple of years, they weren't as flashy as the new PCs in other district labs. But they kept chugging along year after year, doing exactly what we asked.

I did all hardware and software support as well as maintenance on the Macs, which amounted to cleaning the mice a couple of times a year and wiping off a monitor screen now and then.

Now that we have an all-Windows environment, I'm lucky to ever have more than 28 out of 30 machines functioning at any one time. Often less. I've started secretly hoping that some students will be sick from school during each class, just so nobody has to do without.

Regardless of how often technical-support people come, or how many things they fix, more problems show up as soon as they leave. If it's not bad memory, it's bad power supplies. If it's not bad motherboards, then it's bad hard drives. And when it's none of those, it's a software glitch that nobody has a clue how to fix.

For the tech support people, the time lag between my reporting a problem and its resolution may seem a minor matter. However, the phrase "mission critical" takes on new meaning as each new crop of impatient, exuberant, and hormonally enhanced adolescents enters my room each period.

THE TOTAL AMOUNT of staff time required just to keep these machines functional is an order of magnitude higher than what we experienced with the Macs. It almost defies belief.

Worse, the false economy of PCs is mostly buried under a ton of paper somewhere in the yearly budget document. In our case, personnel costs come from an entirely different piece of the budget pie than computer hardware.

Along with the false economy with Windows, I also can't find any real academic reason to go with the platform.

Over the past dozen or so years, PCs blanketed businesses everywhere and adults became more technologically comfortable. And parents started telling me to replace my Macs with PCs.

Their admonitions and opinions were not based upon any analysis of the efficiency and efficacy of computers in an educational environment. Rather, it was simply whatever they were using at work and whatever machine their friends had.

THE PARENTAL DEMAND that we teach kids to use "what's out there" is well-meant. It's based upon an understandable desire that children should become employable--that they should be able to conform to the prevalent platform of the workplace. The fact that the "prevalent platform" is in a constant state of flux is another matter entirely.

I'll add that just because you learn to drive in a Ford does not preclude you from eventually driving a Chevy. Same difference with standard productivity applications, such as Microsoft Office, which is available across platforms. But then, any general operation in a Mac application will be much the same in comparable Windows software, even if the exact machinations necessary to effect a result are slightly different.

For simple elegance of design, ease of use, and economy of operation, there's simply no comparison between the two platforms. If you want to work for the machine, go with Windows. If you want the machine to work for you, go with the Mac.

And that's what I really want for my students.


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To: Vermonter
"...when Macs are better

I some opinion. A friend who is employed by a major university in computer networking systems will disagree wholeheartedly and opt for PC every time! He loves to show maint. logs to prove the error of the above statement!

41 posted on 02/12/2002 5:19:35 AM PST by lawdude
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To: Vermonter
"who's trying to convert who?"

Who posted the patently evangelical article at the top of the thread?

42 posted on 02/12/2002 5:20:45 AM PST by Don Joe
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To: Vermonter
I've been in business computer support, both in-house and as a consultant for the better part of a decade. I've worked with and supported just about every flavor of PC, as well as Macs and Unix boxes.

I won't argue that Macs aren't elegant machines. I have nothing against them. That said, there's no way in heck I'd ever recommend a business spend the enormous amount of money to change from the Wintel platform over to all Macintosh. Until that happens, the vast majority of businesses will continue to use Wintel and thus it makes sense for schools to teach on this platform.

Would anyone suggest using an Amiga in schools? Its a great machine, but no one uses it. Same arguement holds true for the Mac. It's sad, but that's reality.

Oh, and as for support, believe me Macs are certainly not immune from defects, and they are usually big bucks to fix. From my experience, as long as you're buying well-designed, business-quality equipment (IBM, HP, Compaq) you'll see as good reliability as Mac.
43 posted on 02/12/2002 5:21:54 AM PST by babyface00
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To: Khepera
I think that's what I was saying. ;o)
44 posted on 02/12/2002 5:22:57 AM PST by wheezer
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To: Utopia;Tree of Liberty
Wow, UFB.

Do the Mackers even read a post before firing at it?

Tree of Liberty made a point, and you (putatively) "argue" it by proving it!

45 posted on 02/12/2002 5:22:58 AM PST by Don Joe
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To: FreedomPoster
Apple lost, and now serves a fringe market of some educators, graphics professionals, and self-styled digerati.

True, but only until those graphics professionals and digerati try the SGI O2+ machines... then they'll jump ship.

46 posted on 02/12/2002 5:24:12 AM PST by thatsnotnice
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To: Vermonter
How schools are tricked into using PCs--when Macs are better

Whether Macs are better is debatable -- but irrelevant. They are like Beta VCRs and OS2. They lost they war. Move on.

47 posted on 02/12/2002 5:25:30 AM PST by JoeGar
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To: Leto
I was in HS eight years ago and basic PC components and usage remains about the same, and where the differences are, my prior knowlege lets me adapt more easily than if I had to learn the entire system from scratch.
48 posted on 02/12/2002 5:26:02 AM PST by Tree of Liberty
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To: TightSqueeze
Thank you.
49 posted on 02/12/2002 5:26:15 AM PST by Tree of Liberty
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To: gorush
"I'm probably in the minority, but I don't feel that PC's are necessary equipment for primary education."

When I was a kid I'd have given my eye teeth for a "mere" 4-banger calculator. Of course, it was about a decade or so before the first models appeared, and they were not only far from "pocket" size, but cost beaucoup hundred bucks.

I remember when I was able to buy my first adding machine (used, "cheap") when I was in my twenties. It made doing my taxes so absurdly easy that I felt like I'd died and gone to accounting heaven. (Hey, I just waxed dramaqueenesque Just Like A Real Macker!)

50 posted on 02/12/2002 5:26:17 AM PST by Don Joe
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To: Vermonter
VHS vs. BETA
Ford vs. Chevy
MAC vs. IBM
Dog vs. Cat
Good vs. Evil
General Mills vs. Proctor & Gamble
Goodyear vs. Michelin
Harley vs. Honda
Superman vs. Spiderman
Cops vs. Donuts

I love the USA !!

51 posted on 02/12/2002 5:26:53 AM PST by JoeSixPack1
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To: FreedomPoster
Didn't Mac's CEO make some really stupid statement back in the 80's that Mac was only going to cater to the "best" people and only sell expensive stuff to the elite clientele?Oldsmobile said something similar earlier this Century. Look who owns them now.

While Mac closely controlled their OS and refused to license clones the MS inferior OS took over the market. Bad business decisions can doom a superior product. Remember VHS vs. Beta?

52 posted on 02/12/2002 5:27:28 AM PST by Seruzawa
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To: Utopia
I was lumping in film making with graphic artists. I probably should have been more explicit, but it still composes a relatively minute portion of the job market.
53 posted on 02/12/2002 5:27:48 AM PST by Tree of Liberty
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To: Vermonter
Try standing up and stating that position at a school budget meeting and be prepared to run for your life"

...actually I did. It was during my unsuccessful bid for a seat on the school board (near Madistan, WI). The teachers were very happy I lost. (after attending a bunch of the meetings, I was happy I lost, too) ...Did quite well for an unknown, though, while only campaigning via letters to the editor.

Many didn't feel I should serve as I have no kids, yet they weren't prepared to give my school taxes back for the same reason. :{)

54 posted on 02/12/2002 5:28:08 AM PST by gorush
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To: gorush
Good for you. That's the same reason I got on the technology committee. No kids in school, but my taxes kept going up. I didn't try to evangelize Macs, but hoped to keep the spending on computers reasonable.

HA! Try telling anyone they don't need the latest and greatest X86 with CD, sound and a huge monitor to teach word processing. Or that old computers can be used for word processing rather than being replaced. I finally gave up.

55 posted on 02/12/2002 5:33:18 AM PST by Vermonter
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To: Vermonter
Well, it's like English. You may decide that Spanish is a superior language and culture and force your kids to grow in a Spanish-speaking environment but you should be aware that, by doing so, you are severely limiting their options as grownups.
56 posted on 02/12/2002 5:33:25 AM PST by A Vast RightWing Conspirator
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To: Vermonter
I was tricked into buying a Nissan over a Toyota. The Nissan salesguy, being an evil trickster, told me it was a better car. There oughta be a law.
57 posted on 02/12/2002 5:33:29 AM PST by Republic of Texas
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To: FreedomPoster, Don Joe
fringe market of some educators, graphics professionals, and self-styled digerati.

Ok, you don't like Lucas and special effects (100+ scenes of his lastest movie made on an iMac with OS X and his lastest software), but the visual effects industry, the graphics industry market is hardly fringe .

Do you actually know what a Mac can do, or is this cut a knee jerk reaction? I have to ask because I still can't believe when I read hogwash about Macs that may have been true 10 years ago, but not now. Have you ever seen OS X? Do you know what it is? Have you ever heard of Mach? Do you understand what that is? I only ask because you so easily dismiss the Apple computer yet give no reasons for it. (Notice, I have not dismissed Wintel - I've only said it was not right for me.) And your reasons are, well, lacking in intelligence ...

Looking for intelligent life here .. finding none, I move on ...

58 posted on 02/12/2002 5:33:34 AM PST by Utopia
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To: JoeGar
Good point.
59 posted on 02/12/2002 5:34:16 AM PST by gilor
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To: It'salmosttolate
"Like the housing and property industry which is run by the axium Location, Location, Location the CIA uses Macs because of Security, Security, Security."

You know for a fact that the predominance of Macs in that agency is merely coincidental to the disproportionate influence of groups like this one?

You might want to reconsider your choice of credibility-fodder, Mr. Almost. *snicker*

(BTW, I wonder how it is that that outfit gets away with quoting an entire WashingPost piece without getting actioned into the ground?)

60 posted on 02/12/2002 5:35:11 AM PST by Don Joe
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