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No Jail Time For Noelle Bush, Ordered to 18 Months Treatment
The Palm Beach Post ^ | Feruary 2, 2002 | Michael Van Sickler

Posted on 02/02/2002 6:41:50 AM PST by codebreaker

The state attorney's office wont seek jail time for the daughter of Gov. Jeb Bush, after she was arrested this week on a felony charge of prescription drug fraud, State attorney Willie Meggs said on Friday.

Instead of the maximum 5 years in prison , Noelle Bush, 24 is facing mandatory attendance at a Leon County drug court for up to 18 months Meggs said.


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To: Harp
. . . if she were black or poor or whatever.

Around here violent sex offenders, rapists, and murderers are not sent to prison for long. Neither are drug addicts rich or poor.

61 posted on 02/02/2002 8:03:05 AM PST by FITZ
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To: dogbyte12
This is a republican democracy not a monarchy.

Not exactly right.

62 posted on 02/02/2002 8:04:12 AM PST by Exigence
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To: NC_Libertarian
Do you think jail time is the right approach for a first time drug offender?
63 posted on 02/02/2002 8:04:24 AM PST by FITZ
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To: Wolfie
"Save your breath. Noelle is one of the "anointed ones". Most folks here would be more than happy to hear that she's been given special treatment."

Have you considered that a prison term or this girl would have been a possible death sentance?

The plain fact is that there are those in prison who would love to "payback" the Governor by sticking a shive in his daughters guts.

I hope she finds the motivation and the support she needs to clean up her act.

64 posted on 02/02/2002 8:04:42 AM PST by grumpster-dumpster
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To: dogbyte12
I am an equal opportunity basher.

I agree. I just can't stand people who moan about it on the one hand, and dismiss it on the other. But mostly its turned into "They do it, so we can to". Two wrongs don't make a right. And the reason they don't come down hard on the wealthy and connected, is because then they'd lose the opportunity to crack down on the poor and disenfranchised.

Congressional Family Drug Offenders Escape Mandatory Sentences, Get Favorable Treatment

65 posted on 02/02/2002 8:06:47 AM PST by Wolfie
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To: Harp
if she were black

You do realize that Noelle is only half caucasian, don't you? She is a minority. So, what was the point again?

66 posted on 02/02/2002 8:07:30 AM PST by Exigence
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To: Exigence
She's not colorful enough.
67 posted on 02/02/2002 8:08:29 AM PST by Greg Weston
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To: scouse
[...] now what should happen to Olga Korbut who was arrested yesterday for shoplifting in Georgia?

Her lawyer is going to go through quite some gymnastics to get her off.

68 posted on 02/02/2002 8:09:50 AM PST by Erasmus
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To: Greg Weston
She's not colorful enough.

Oh... well... that explains it. *g*

69 posted on 02/02/2002 8:10:42 AM PST by Exigence
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To: steve50
I don't think she got a sentence any different than any other first time offender would have recieved. How many times do we hear about light sentences being handed out to individuals with extensive rap sheets?
70 posted on 02/02/2002 8:11:14 AM PST by Tailback
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To: Erasmus
You said re: Olga Korbut:
Her lawyer is going to go through quite some gymnastics to get her off.

Very good. LOL

71 posted on 02/02/2002 8:11:45 AM PST by Exigence
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To: Tennessee_Bob
I'm glad that she's getting treatment, but if she screws up again, then it's time for punishment.

I agree with you 100%. My brother go into drugs (pot) when he was about 11. Our mother died when he was 14, I was amost 13. My brother was shot and killed by the police in Hollywood, California in a major drug deal. Headline news, broadcast all the way to Maine that he died. (Friends who'd moved to Maine from LA area called us, telling us how sorry they were---we were shocked to learn it made national news.) At the funeral, one of my brother's friends (my friend's cousin) came up to me and said "I don't know if you know this, but your brother kinda went berzerk after your mom died---he really couldn't deal with it." I never knew how much pain he'd felt after her death because he hid it. I also remember begging him to stop doing drugs when I was about 15, he 16. My tears and pleas didn't persuade him. He told me to stop crying, he's not going to stop, he likes getting high. I told him he's going to end up dying......I don't want him to die. I know my pleas and tears touched his heart, but he was already too far gone into drugs. He was sick and needed help, but he had to want the help and accept it. I'm not excusing my brother's drug behavior. But it's not easy to quit it. And he wasn't a bad person. His heart was good and kind. He got messed up. I wished he would have wanted to stop, he'd probably be alive now. These people need help. And yes, they may need to be punished for committing crimes. But, the drugs also make them do things they wouldn't otherwise do---it alters their brains. That is the real crime--how the drug wrecks them. Drug prevention is critical; drug rehabilitation in imperative----the trick is founding out how to do this and get through to people who are so drugged out that they can no longer think rationally and normally.

I hope that Noelle wakes up, that she's "hit bottom" and will take advantage of the help out there. I could care less if she's gotten preferential treatment. I won't agree that she has or disagree that she hasn't. I care about her getting better. Who's to say that if she does, she may be able to help others out of their drug problems because she understands them. Maybe God can use this in her life and her heart to help others. That would be a wonderful outcome.

72 posted on 02/02/2002 8:13:22 AM PST by nicmarlo
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To: FITZ, NC_Libertarian
Do you think jail time is the right approach for a first time drug offender?

Ooh... what an interesting question for a libertarian to field. *g*

73 posted on 02/02/2002 8:13:39 AM PST by Exigence
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To: Boner1
Anyone sure this was her first time ,With a bogus presciption Where the pre trial?

"Where's the pre trial"? Apparently where it should be - OVER at the request of the defendant and not hijacked by lowlifes for political gain. Being that there's no evidence of wrong doing yet you don't give them the benefit to the doubt, this must really eat you up. {smile}

74 posted on 02/02/2002 8:16:55 AM PST by elfman2
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To: Tailback
We hear it every time a politican or otherwise connected person gets caught. SS/DD
75 posted on 02/02/2002 8:30:33 AM PST by steve50
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To: Tennessee_Bob
Well, with her driving record, her previous brushes with the laws, she seems to be hardened enough to take some prison time like everyone else in her position!.

I, especially because I am a conservative, do not appreciate double standards. This easy "out" for Ms. Bush is going to haunt Jeb Bush for a long time.

76 posted on 02/02/2002 8:35:10 AM PST by eleni121
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To: JohnGalt
"So now we are subsidizing her rehab?"

Must be this compassionate conservatism we hear so much about?

Her family couldn't control her so now we have to pay for it.

77 posted on 02/02/2002 9:02:57 AM PST by Stew Padasso
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To: Boner1
And the person of color AKA poor peon gets jail time FAIR ,Huh.

First of all, she IS a person of color. Second of all sending her to prison serves neither the community or her. I wish more drug sentences were that sensible.

78 posted on 02/02/2002 9:07:42 AM PST by jalisco555
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To: codebreaker
First let me say, I hope Noelle, gets treatment instead of jail, the same goes for anybdy else, whether they live in the inner cities, trailer parks, barrios, or just good ol' small towns. It is time to be frank, to some of you who support the WOD, many people out in the public square, who will hear of this news, will write it off as another example of a rich or a politically connected person getting off, and that my friends, undermines the credibility of the drug war. The only time somebody who is part of the elite, gets jail time, is when it is politically expedient(i.e X42 getting brother Roger jailed) or when the person is beyond control (like Robert Downey Jr.). But most of the time, whenever a Kennedy,or some other elite gets pinched, a mere slap of the wrist as well as treatment, The movie "Traffic" shows this. IMHO, I think it is time to put Doctors and Health Professionals at the forefront, of the drug issue. Judges Lawyers and Law Enforcement, should be secondary. I'll admit I am not totally sold on legalization, like of the some of the more hard core libertarians, but I know, that the present situation is a failure.
79 posted on 02/02/2002 9:36:02 AM PST by mlibertarianj
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To: FITZ
Do you think jail time is the right approach for a first time drug offender?

Of course not. I don't think it's ever the approach for non-violent drug offenders. But it happens. There are countless less fortunate people who would not be so lucky as Noelle. It's the hypocrisy.

She is not just a drug offender - she commited felony fraud. Fraud is a real crime. People get stiff sentences for mere possession of a drug, she gets "treatment" for felony prescription fraud.

There is no equal treatment under the law. That's the problem. The bottom line is that if the elites were subject to our drug laws there would be no drug war. So they have to let them off, time after time. Right in front of the American public and nobody seems to think it's a problem.

80 posted on 02/02/2002 9:43:20 AM PST by NC_Libertarian
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