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Top-Selling Bible to Be Issued in Gender-Neutral Version
Associated Press ^ | Monday, January 28, 2002 | Associated Press

Posted on 01/28/2002 6:08:09 AM PST by FourtySeven

Edited on 04/22/2004 12:32:21 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

The International Bible Society said Monday that America's best-selling modern Bible is about to get an update using gender-neutral wording, despite past criticism of that idea from conservative Christians.

The revision will be called "Today's New International Version," or TNIV. The original "New International Version," which has sold more than 150 million copies worldwide since 1978, will remain on the market.


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To: ColdSteelTalon
The NIV like everything else that is not KLV is taken from corrupted texts. I trust none of them except the King James Version.

I hope you're kidding. We have better texts now than we did back in the days when the King James version was translated. The KJV is a great Bible and beautifully written but the notion that it's somehow uncorrupted is just a fantasy stirred up by ignorant backwoods pastors.

61 posted on 01/28/2002 6:51:46 AM PST by DallasMike
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To: concerned about politics
"I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophacy of this book: If anyone adds anything to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this book. And if anyone takes words away from this book of prophacy, God will take away from him his share in the tree of life and in the holy city, which are described in this book." ( Revelation 18-19)

Worth Repeating..

David

62 posted on 01/28/2002 6:52:29 AM PST by davidosborne
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To: Dave S
The Bible wasnt written in English. Every translation is a rewrite.

You've just shattered the cherished beliefs of more than one person here with that (absolutely true) statement.

63 posted on 01/28/2002 6:53:08 AM PST by DallasMike
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To: FourtySeven;concerned about politics;truthandlife;2sheep

click picture


The three esoteric "6"'s separated.


64 posted on 01/28/2002 6:54:17 AM PST by It'salmosttolate
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To: FourtySeven
Make no mistake: this is an outright attack on Christianity. Natural progression toward the end.

MM

66 posted on 01/28/2002 6:54:49 AM PST by MississippiMan
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To: Registered
Didn't realize that was the purpose of having a Breaking News category...

You are correct. I should have said...

"In addition to this actually being breaking news, I also posted this in this section to get everyone's opinion on this, because I'm curious what everyone thinks about it.

I apologize for any inconvenience.

67 posted on 01/28/2002 6:55:30 AM PST by FourtySeven
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To: DallasMike
It's been a looong time since my Ancient Greek course, but if I remember correctly they didn't use a word similar to "people" when referring to a group of men and women. They almost always used the masculine plural. In a way, it's similar to the way we use "mankind".

"Man is the head of woman, like God is the head of man."
By changing the holy word, they are changing this. God said what he MEANT to say, and who are we to change his thinking for him???? Are the thought police so much wiser?
See #50. DO NOT CHANGE THE WORDS IN THIS BOOK. Revelations 18-19!

I'm on Gods side. There will be retribution. PC itself is an unholy worldly religion, that of the Anti-Christ. God will not be mocked!

68 posted on 01/28/2002 6:55:57 AM PST by concerned about politics
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To: erizona
I could go on all day showing you scriptures which have been altered, removed, etc. and show you why the King James Version is the only English Bible my family and I use.

Oh, good grief. I suggest that you pick up a copy of The King James Controversy by James White (or any one of several other good books). You're being duped by the King James only crowd. If you like it best, read it, but don't ascribe conspiratorial motives to other translations, several of of which are significant better than the KJV.

69 posted on 01/28/2002 6:58:21 AM PST by DallasMike
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To: FourtySeven
Sad bttt :(
70 posted on 01/28/2002 6:58:33 AM PST by Guenevere
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To: concerned about politics
"Man is the head of woman, like God is the head of man."
This cannot be re-written to favor the pagans. It's unholy and blasphemous to change it.
God will not be mocked.
71 posted on 01/28/2002 7:02:19 AM PST by concerned about politics
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To: 11th Earl of Mar
I was referrring to the the King James Version. Thou silly person :-)
72 posted on 01/28/2002 7:02:26 AM PST by ColdSteelTalon
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To: DallasMike
I hope you're kidding. We have better texts now than we did back in the days when the King James version was translated. The KJV is a great Bible and beautifully written but the notion that it's somehow uncorrupted is just a fantasy stirred up by ignorant backwoods pastors.

No I am not kidding. The fact is that the NIV and others use corrupted alexandrian texts. The KJV was taken from uncorrupted texts plain and simple. If you did a comparison of the NIV and KJV you would know this. The NIV is not even a complete translation

73 posted on 01/28/2002 7:07:40 AM PST by ColdSteelTalon
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To: erizona
huh?
74 posted on 01/28/2002 7:08:12 AM PST by shiva
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To: ALL
Let’s not forget, women are also made in God’s image. And the bible doesn’t stop there in using feminine references to the Almighty.

There are many references to God in the Torah - Lord, God, Almighty, Master, King, and so on. However, there is one reference to God in a feminine tense - Shekhina - Divine Presence.

In early Judaism, the figure of wisdom is experienced as feminine and the theology of "Shekina" and other references in Isaiah as to the Motherhood of God are well known. Ever since the resurrection of Christ, the grace of Christ has always manifested itself in the form of Mary.

(1) Genesis 1.26-27 God said, "Now we will make humans, and they will be like us. We will let them rule the fish, the birds, and all other living creatures." So God created humans to be like himself; he made men and women.

(2) Numbers 11.11-13 (a feminine kind of conversation going on) He prayed: I am your servant, LORD, so why are you doing this to me? What have I done to deserve this? You've made me responsible for all these people, but they're not my children. You told me to nurse them along and to carry them to the land you promised their ancestors. They keep whining for meat, but where can I get meat for them?

(3) Isaiah 66.12-13 The LORD has promised: "I will flood Jerusalem with the wealth of nations and make the city prosper. Zion will nurse you at her breast, carry you in her arms, and hold you in her lap. I will comfort you there like a mother comforting her child."

Deuteronomy 32:11 says, “As an eagle incites its nestlings forth by hovering over its brood, so he [God] spread his wings to receive them and bore them up on his pinions.” In fact, the eagle here is a mother eagle.
That verse is part of a longer hymn (32:1-43) in praise of God. Verse 18 says, “You were unmindful of the Rock that begot you, you forgot the God who gave you birth.”

The Book of Isaiah has several references to God using feminine imagery: God’s anguish for the Israelites is like that of a woman giving birth (42:14); God cherishes them with a mother’s love (49:15); and “As a mother comforts her son, so will I comfort you” (66:13). Hearken to me, O house of Jacob, all the remnant of the house of Israel, who have been borne by me from your birth, carried from the womb; even to your old age I am He, and to gray hairs I will carry you. I have made, and I will bear; I will carry and will save." ~ Isaiah 46:3-4

So...don't worry, the bible already accounts for God's masculinity AND femininity. Does anybody out there REALLY think God is a man, with male plumbing and all that? C'mon. God's not that skinny Santa Clause sitting on a throne yer picturing. God's something we can't quite figure out.

75 posted on 01/28/2002 7:08:51 AM PST by in_troth
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To: DallasMike;Coldsteeltalon
but the notion that it's somehow uncorrupted is just a fantasy stirred up by ignorant backwoods pastors.

hey - watch who yer callin backwoods ;)


76 posted on 01/28/2002 7:09:16 AM PST by Revelation 911
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
Is that still a crime?
77 posted on 01/28/2002 7:09:37 AM PST by davidosborne
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To: FormerLib
I am not interested in a neutered Bible. Why Protestants would want one is beyond me. Maybe some of the post-Christian churches, but I don't consider those as Christian anyway.
78 posted on 01/28/2002 7:10:42 AM PST by No Truce With Kings
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To: Dave S
I suspect this is about blurring, not clarifying. Substituting other words with difference senses is hardly what I would consider careful handling of the scriptures.

"Your servants have counted the men (substitute "warrior here) of war who are under our command, and there is not a one of us is missing." (Num. 31:49) Even the males who were circumcised in Joshua 5:4 are not called "men of war," but "warriors." Obviously the "translators" want us to believe the army in Israel contained women and that the women were also circumcised.

Some people seem to find revisionism in the history books to be objectionable. Apparently, the same principle doesn't apply to scripture? Oh well, thanks for your advice to ignore it and not to stand against it.

79 posted on 01/28/2002 7:10:48 AM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: FourtySeven; SMEDLEY BUTLER, knarf; KJV1611; viva la homeschool
This is how an apostate Christianity reaches out to the world. It is liberal to the core, and is an abomnation, and denominations that use this are telling everyone they do not believe in the Bible, and chances are, do not believe that Jesus death on the Cross was real, nor was His ressurrection real.
80 posted on 01/28/2002 7:11:53 AM PST by RaceBannon
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