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Illegal Immigrants Seek Access to Higher Education
Nebraska News - Around Nebraska ^ | January 22, 2002 | John Fulwider

Posted on 01/23/2002 1:53:17 PM PST by Brownie74

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To: Brownie74
I do. I do.
62 posted on 01/23/2002 6:43:48 PM PST by NoControllingLegalAuthority
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To: Joe Hadenuf
Yeah, and all these Republicans running around acting like Democrates. Strange days are upon us......

I have been mystified by this too Joe. Many in the GOP it seems have given up the good fight against socialism and are willing, like the GOP, to split the difference with the democrats. Strange days indeed.

63 posted on 01/23/2002 7:01:12 PM PST by WRhine
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To: CoryLund
The lazy liberals have been killing this nation and illegal ALIENS (not UNDOCUMENTED...puleeeeese!)

I agree with every thing you said but don’t kid yourself that Bush and the GOP are any better than the democrats on the legal and illegal immigration issues. In fact if Bush goes through with this Amnesty deal he will truly be the worst offender.

64 posted on 01/23/2002 7:07:10 PM PST by WRhine
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To: Brownie74
I just want to be around to see the collapse (it is inevitable); when the outgoing to all the parasites is, finally, greater than the incoming from the "worker bees".

The end should be swift, and probably a tad violent. After all those years on the government teat, withdrawal can be hazardous to your health.

prambo

65 posted on 01/23/2002 7:13:29 PM PST by prambo
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To: FITZ
Also those kids could be a little more like the many American kids who work their way through college.

Thats what I told LincolnDefender in my post 41. I like the old Smith Barney commercials that said:

"We do things the old fashion way - we earn it." That is the American way of doing things. Or at least it used to be.

But as long as we keep giving to these people they will never learn to work for anything.

66 posted on 01/24/2002 2:03:33 AM PST by Brownie74
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To: NoControllingLegalAuthority
Please keep us informed. Thanks.
67 posted on 01/24/2002 2:05:27 AM PST by Brownie74
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To: WRhine
In fact if Bush goes through with this Amnesty deal he will truly be the worst offender.

You got that right. Bush didn't start this problem but he can darn sure end it with the stroke of a pen.

68 posted on 01/24/2002 2:09:23 AM PST by Brownie74
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To: Brownie74
"The Nebraska Legislature's Education Committee today will consider a bill addressing the in-state tuition difficulty."

A mere difficulty, which will quickly be surmounted. Why, the entire Constitution of the United States, including the laws enacted under it and by the states...these are mere difficulties in our grand march into Utopia...

--Boris

69 posted on 01/24/2002 2:12:12 AM PST by boris
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To: Joe Hadenuf
Hey, I know, lets offer them security screener jobs at the airport. You don't even have to have a high school diploma for that.

But Joe, look at it this way. If we educate these people, then they will be able to fill out their job applications in English thus saving the government millions of dollars because they don't have to print bi-lingual job applications. Can't you see their logic? [/sarcasm]

70 posted on 01/24/2002 2:16:20 AM PST by Brownie74
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To: CoryLund
Der Hilderbeast is getting her rear end kicked.

Yes (1,084) (9%)
No (11,375) (91%)

71 posted on 01/24/2002 2:43:42 AM PST by Brownie74
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To: Asclepius; Brownie74
Why is this even an issue? They are in violation of the law.

Same thoughts here Asclepius.

Brownie, this subject is so depressing and frustrating. Everytime I read one of your "pings" I scream. LOL

72 posted on 01/24/2002 5:27:29 PM PST by SpookBrat
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To: SpookBrat
I know what you mean - but the more people that get the message and "scream", means that we are one person closer to getting this mess turned around. Hang tough!! Spread the word!!
73 posted on 01/25/2002 1:11:46 AM PST by Brownie74
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To: Brownie74
Bills would give 'illegal' teenagers tuition break

OLYMPIA -- The story the young Latina tells in her letter has become increasingly familiar in Washington.

As a 12-year resident of the United States, a student government officer and a dancer, the teenager is heading toward high school graduation with a grade-point average that betters 3.6.

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What she doesn't have are papers allowing her to be in the United States legally, which is why she doesn't want to reveal her identity. And without those, the young woman doesn't have much chance of paying for college. To the public university system, she is a non-resident and must pay out-of-state tuition.

Her story is one testimonial that an advocacy group, the Latino/a Educational Achievement Project, is using to advance its cause: changing the system so students such as this young woman can pay in-state tuition at Washington's public colleges and universities.

This week, the cause got a boost when legislators in the House and Senate introduced bills that would allow teenagers who are "undocumented" -- that is, here illegally -- to pay in-state tuition, provided they meet a few other requirements.

"I believe it is in the best interest of our state, economically and culturally, to give them the opportunity to get in-state tuition," said Sen. Don Carlson, R-Vancouver, who introduced one of two bills in the Senate. "We're not providing them any additional special privileges; we're just giving them the opportunities that other residents of the state of Washington have."

The difference in tuition rates is significant. At the University of Washington, in-state tuition is $3,983 a year, compared with $9,280 a year for non-residents.

Under Carlson's bill, SB6235, undocumented high school graduates would be eligible after a year of residency, or if they spent their entire senior year at and graduated from a high school in Washington state.

A second bill, SB6367, introduced in the Senate by Jim Honeyford, R-Sunnyside, would require five years of residency, and the student would have to sign an affidavit saying he or she will file an application to become a permanent resident at the earliest opportunity.

The House Bill, HB2330, introduced by Rep. Phyllis Gutierrez Kenney, D-Seattle, requires three years to establish residency.

Sponsoring legislators say the bill would not run afoul of federal law -- which prohibits granting illegal aliens any privilege not available to U.S. citizens -- because out-of-state students can establish residency in Washington after living here one year.

No one spoke against the bill at a hearing in Olympia yesterday.

Supporters included representatives from most of the state's public universities and a couple of community colleges, as well as Latino business leaders and immigration groups.

"This provides an incentive for a community of learners instead of a community of dropouts," said Rebecca Valdovinos, who coordinates the English-as-a-second-language program at Centralia College.

Student government leaders from the University of Washington and Washington State University also spoke in favor of the bill. In part, they argued that the bill would help increase diversity on their campuses.

There is sure to be opposition. National groups that favor tightened immigration oppose assisting undocumented students on the ground that, in the end, the students are breaking the law by being in this country at all.

At this early date, however, the bills have bipartisan support.

"We've got a lot more support on both sides of the aisle than I would have ever imagined six months ago," said Ricardo Sanchez, director of LEAP, which is an initiative of the Concilio for the Spanish Speaking.

Washington would not be the first state to enact such legislation. California and Texas have already enacted similar laws, and other states are debating the issue.

74 posted on 01/25/2002 1:28:38 AM PST by sarcasm
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To: Brownie74
In other Washington stories:

Jobless claims up 59% over last year

75 posted on 01/25/2002 1:31:36 AM PST by sarcasm
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To: sarcasm
....the teenager is heading toward high school graduation with a grade-point average that betters 3.6

Big deal. 3.6 is about what my blood alcohol level was when I was in high school.

....in-state tuition is $3,983 a year, compared with $9,280 a year for non-residents.

This seems out of line. Isn't the difference in tuition at CUNY just a few hundred dollars?

76 posted on 01/25/2002 1:46:31 AM PST by Brownie74
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To: CoryLund
Thanks for the heads up but I have been using Numbers USA for some time. I also check www.vote.com and Ron Paul's site, www.thelibertycommittee.com There is also another site - www.petitiononline.com you can snoop around. If you have problems with any of these sites, let me know.
78 posted on 01/28/2002 10:56:36 AM PST by Brownie74
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