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Terrorist ticketed : Another 9/11 Hijacker Identified in Oklahoma Along with Moussaoui and Atta
Daily Oklahoman ^ | January 20, 2002 | Nolan Clay and Randy Ellis

Posted on 01/20/2002 12:02:44 AM PST by OKCSubmariner

Five months before hijacking the plane that crashed into the Pentagon, terrorist Nawaf al-Hazmi was ticketed along Interstate 40 in far western Oklahoma.

Oklahoma Highway Patrol Trooper C.L. Parkins pulled al-Hazmi over for speeding and for not wearing a seat belt.

Those tickets became clues for the FBI as agents since Sept. 11 have tried to piece together the movements of the 19 terrorists across the country.

"I wish I had known more, but that's hindsight," Parkins told The Oklahoman.

"I'm just glad I did stop him and did the paper trail on him. That way it could help the FBI or other agencies further their investigation."

Al-Hazmi's presence in the state was significant enough to be included — without detail — in the indictment against Zacarias Moussaoui, who is accused of being a conspirator in the Sept. 11 attack.

Moussaoui was enrolled in flight school in Norman at the time al-Hazmi was ticketed.

The Oklahoman learned of the traffic tickets after making an Open Records Act request to the state Department of Public Safety.

The FBI already has questioned Parkins, who knows he could be a witness in Moussaoui's trial.

Al-Hazmi was driving east along the interstate — about 50 miles after crossing into Oklahoma — when he was caught by radar going 85 mph. The speed limit was 70.

It was 6:06 p.m. April 1. Parkins would be with al-Hazmi 12 minutes.

He said the driver was short and spoke English well, but he can't recall anything that was said.

"I just barely remember even having him in my car," Parkins said. "You stop so many people that if ... you don't arrest them or anything ... you don't remember too much after a couple months.

"The best I remember, I asked him to come back to my car and he sat there, and I visited with him a little bit," Parkins said.

"I wrote him a ticket for speeding and the seat belt. We did our normal checks — check to see if the vehicle's stolen, check to see if he's wanted, if his driver's license status is valid — try and see if there's anything we need to look further into."

The driver was alone and wasn't nervous, Parkins also recalled.

Al-Hazmi wasn't under suspicion then. He had a valid California driver's license and an address in San Diego.

Parkins, a trooper of seven years who loves his job, couldn't have done anything else.

"I understand that, but it's difficult sometimes to think back and go: What if you had known something else?" he said.

"We wish something could have been done prior to this happening, but we didn't see anything to go any further with the contact ... on this man to find out any more."

Al-Hazmi mailed his tickets and $138 in money orders as payment to the Washita County court clerk later in April. Court Clerk Tena Arganbright said FBI agents picked up the tickets in October.

Grand jurors do not explain why al-Hazmi, 25, was in Oklahoma in the indictment over the terrorist attack.

"I think the inference they were trying to draw was he was in Oklahoma; Moussaoui was in Oklahoma at the same time," said Bob Ricks, commissioner of the Department of Public Safety.

Moussaoui, 33, is accused in the indictment of conspiring with Osama bin Laden and with the 19 terrorists who hijacked four commercial airliners Sept. 11.

Moussaoui is charged with undergoing the same training, receiving the same funding and pledging the same commitment to kill Americans as the hijackers, U.S. Attorney General John Ashcroft said in December.

More than 3,000 people were killed when the planes were crashed into the World Trade Center in New York, the Pentagon outside Washington and the countryside of Pennsylvania.

Moussaoui, a French citizen, was at Airman Flight School in Norman from Feb. 26 to May 29, but dropped out without getting his pilots license. He was detained in August — at first on immigration violations — after raising an instructor's suspicions at a flight school in Minnesota.

His trial is set for October.

Al-Hazmi came to the United States on Jan. 15, 2000, from Bangkok, Thailand, and lived for months in San Diego. The FBI describes him as a possible Saudi citizen.

Last March, he bought videos for a Boeing 747 flight deck. Moussaoui later bought videos for a Boeing 747 flight deck.

Al-Hazmi stayed in a motel in Maryland with other hijackers and worked out at a gym in September, days before the attack. He and four others hijacked American Airlines Flight 77 after it left Dulles International Airport on Sept. 11 and crashed it into the Pentagon.

His blue Toyota was found at the airport. Al-Hazmi was apparently driving that car when the trooper stopped him in Oklahoma.

Al-Hazmi died in the attack. In a video, bin Laden praises al- Hazmi by name afterward, according to some translations.

Ricks is pleased with the troopers contribution to the investigation.

"I believe our troopers are our front line of defense," he said. "They make contacts with hundreds of thousand of people every year. ... We are the crossroads of America."

Ricks, who once was in charge of the FBI's operation in Oklahoma, said agents found the tickets because the trooper had checked a national crime information computer for any records on al-Hazmi.

"The trooper did the right thing," Ricks said. "By his making the inquiry, it establishes a permanent record.

"We're not going to solve cases, necessarily, for the FBI or others, but what we can do is be part of that equation. Putting together the movements of these people throughout the country gives you a picture," Ricks said.

"That's what Ive tried to stress with our people. We are part of that," he said. "You never can tell when that one ingredient may turn out to be so key at establishing that the person was in a particular area when his alibi — or whatever he is claiming — may be in another area. Or, there's an association that may be taking place — one person with another person. Just by having this permanent record, were able to establish these things."

Parkins, 41, lives outside Cordell. He hasn't lost any sleep over thinking how a terrorist sat right beside him but he admits, "Every now and then I'll think of it."

"I get choked up over the bombing of New York City. I was thinking about it ... (Thursday) coming back from one of my partner's mother's funeral, sitting there thinking of all the service people (in the military) that are having a hardship right now. They're not at home with their families, and its just a terrible thing.

"We fight for our freedom, and its kind of like we've lost it right now."


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This article is entitled "Terrorist ticketed last April on I-40" at the Daily Oklahoman website.

In 1999 the FBI went to the same Norman, Oklahoman flight school used by Moussaoui. In 1999 the FBI told the VP of the Norman flight school that the FBI was investigating hijacker pilot Mohamed Atta (tied directly to Iraq and AlQaeda) who had also been at the school briefly. The FBI told the VP in 1999 that the FBI knew Atta was training in the US for a terrorist attack involving pilots flying jetliners.

Moussaoui next went to a flight school in Mineapolis where he was detained in August 2001 by the FBI. The French government has formally complained to the US that the French told the US in August that Moussaoui was connected to AlQaeda but was not taken seriously enough.

An FBI agent in Minneapolis has a lawsuit filed against the FBI and DOJ by Judicial Watch, Larry Klayman and by Chicago attorney Davisd Schippers. The FBI agent alleges that his efforts to avert the 9/11 attacks based on information learned involving Moussaoui was blocked and ignored by the FBI and by Attorney General Ashcroft.

So now we know that three terrorists, Moussaoui, Al-Hazmi and Atta were in Oklahoma prior to the 9/11 attacks.

1 posted on 01/20/2002 12:02:45 AM PST by OKCSubmariner
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To: Wallaby,kattracks,JohnHuang2,Uncle Bill,golitely,thinden,Donald Stone,DonQ,aristeides,Plummz,Fred
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2 posted on 01/20/2002 12:05:22 AM PST by OKCSubmariner
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To: OKCSubmariner
"So now we know that three terrorists, Moussaoui, Al-Hazmi and Atta were in Oklahoma prior to the 9/11 attacks."

It's starting to get confusing which terrorist organization was in Oklahoma prior to all the attacks.

FBI Agent Danny Coulson and the OKC Bombing

Was FBI early arrival in Oklahoma City?

3 posted on 01/20/2002 12:23:27 AM PST by Uncle Bill
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To: OKCSubmariner
It's very clear that certain parts of our government had enough compelling evidence well prior to 9/11 to prevent what finally happened. And it is very clear that certain parts of our government allowed events to unfold as they have. What scares me is the trooper Parkins' statement that al-Hazmi spoke english well and wasn't nervous; this implies that al-Hazmi was "comfortable" in the U.S. environment and was confident his credentials would check out. How many more al-Hazmis are out there, biding their time? These people had 8 years under the Clintonista regime to build their infrastructure within the United States.
4 posted on 01/20/2002 2:32:42 AM PST by waxhaw
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To: Uncle Bill
It's starting to get confusing which terrorist organization was in Oklahoma prior to all the attacks.

Not so confusing ...... the FBI was there every time

Another of William Webster's Whitey Burgher (sp) operations gone wrong

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5 posted on 01/20/2002 3:12:46 AM PST by Elle Bee
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To: OKCSubmariner
"We did not have prior knowledge of these terrorist attacks!" So says all Federal Agencies. BS!
6 posted on 01/20/2002 4:29:11 AM PST by B4Ranch
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To: Elle Bee
You mean Whitey Bulger? I remember that case from our time in MA. This is a mess.
7 posted on 01/20/2002 4:35:30 AM PST by mewzilla
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To: OKCSubmariner
The FBI told the VP in 1999 that the FBI knew Atta was training in the US for a terrorist attack involving pilots flying jetliners.

If this information was available to the FBI in 1999, common sense would demand that information about the threat be communicated to pilots and flight attendants. That never happened.

8 posted on 01/20/2002 6:20:03 AM PST by honway
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To: mewzilla
Yea that's the name

Just as with Jackie Presser (Ron Carey) the FBI covers for an informant allows them to continue to commit crimes, then poof something goes wrong and they scramble to cover up

Webster, like Chauncy Gardner, has a habit of just 'Being There'

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9 posted on 01/20/2002 7:27:30 AM PST by Elle Bee
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To: OKCSubmariner
Questions unasked in the article, but no doubt thought of by the rest of us--1. Did he own the car, or was it rented? If rented, where did he pick it up? 2. Where was he last? 3. Where was he going? Those of us in the OKC area will wonder if it was Norman--actually, we'll suspect it is.
10 posted on 01/20/2002 8:47:09 AM PST by MizSterious
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To: Uncle Bill
Aside from the FBI, apparently there were Al-Qaeda and Hamas. And if you believe the states listed on Freeper home pages, a few flying monkeys.
11 posted on 01/20/2002 8:48:45 AM PST by MizSterious
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To: cinderreno
FYI
12 posted on 01/20/2002 8:50:28 AM PST by MizSterious
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To: PhiKapMom;OKSooner
Oklahoma-related issues ping...although you've probably seen this already.
13 posted on 01/20/2002 11:16:52 AM PST by VOA
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To: waxhaw
It's very clear that certain parts of our government had enough compelling evidence well prior to 9/11 to prevent what finally happened. And it is very clear that certain parts of our government allowed events to unfold as they have. ..I believe that statment is true of Peal Harbor as well...So your point is?
15 posted on 01/20/2002 4:34:30 PM PST by mtman
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To: OKCSubmariner
"I wrote him a ticket for speeding and the seat belt. We did our normal checks — check to see if the vehicle's stolen, check to see if he's wanted, if his driver's license status is valid — try and see if there's anything we need to look further into."

In my opinion this is where we also need an INS check. Although, I concede, he may have been totally legal.

16 posted on 01/20/2002 4:44:45 PM PST by Salvation
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To: VOA; OK Sooner
It was on the front page of our paper! I would assume he was headed her to meet the other terrorists here in Norman! We had some Arab that was going for his first solo ride in a plane from Max Westenheimer crash at the end of the runway because he didn't put gas in the plane. It was right across from Albertson's gas station. I am not sure of exactly when it happened, but I drove by right after the plane crashed!
17 posted on 01/20/2002 5:05:24 PM PST by PhiKapMom
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To: PhiKapMom
We had some Arab that was going for his first solo ride in a plane from Max Westenheimer
crash at the end of the runway because he didn't put gas in the plane.


Did you see the "Frontline" show on PBS titled (IIRC) "Inside the Terror Network"?

It aired in LA on KCET (our PBS "superstation") last Thursday night and it was really good.
It included the episode of The Talented Mr. Atta and one of his associates when their
small civilian airplane malfunctioned and wouldn't restart while they were in
a line of planes waiting to take off from the major airport in Miami.
They suffered no real consequences for the gaffe...even though they abandoned the plane
and it eventually had to be towed out of the way of the other waiting planes.

Check your local PBS listings in case this is re-broadcast...it is definitely worth
watching.
My (former Canadian) cousin in Dallas said he saw this Frontline show and couldn't believe
how easily The Talented Mr. Atta and his buddies moved around the USA and the world.
He usually thinks I'm a bit alarmist about these sort of things, but even he was
saying that after he saw that show, the country can't afford to let down it's
guard against the Al-Quida and other similar agents.
18 posted on 01/20/2002 6:08:47 PM PST by VOA
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To: VOA
Thanks for the tip! I will see when it is reairing here! I know the OU Flight School has really tightened up on giving flying lessons. They said that Moussaoui didn't want to know how to land a plane, just wanted to fly the plane. OU also lost a lot of their Arab students after Sep 11th which made me wonder about that too! Moussaoui was a member of the health club at OU according to the paper! FBI has been reviewing all records of foreign students at OU also!
19 posted on 01/20/2002 6:18:03 PM PST by PhiKapMom
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To: PhiKapMom
OU also lost a lot of their Arab students after Sep 11th which made me wonder about that too!

My sources tell me that about fifty Arab/Muslim students "disappeared" from
the University of Missouri days/weeks after 9-11.
I would not be suprised that most did so due to fear of even harsh verbal harassement...
but also wouldn't be shocked if some of them weren't at least moral supporters of
what happened 9-11.

Something I've noticed lately is that there seem to be more "Mediterranean" types appearing
on my campus.
I just pray that they are peaceable types who have fled schools in "The Heartland",
thinking that they will be immune to rough treatment here.
If there is any sort of follow-up to 9-11 that happens to American citizens, they may
be in for a rude suprise. I've been suprised that some of my more liberal colleagues
finally get on their hind legs over the issue of terrorism!
20 posted on 01/20/2002 6:31:05 PM PST by VOA
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