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Enron Called Bush Cabinet Officers Before Bankruptcy
Reuters ^ | January 10, 2002 | By Arshad Mohammed

Posted on 01/10/2002 4:30:08 PM PST by MeekOneGOP

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To: Jorge
So what exactly is Bush charged with?
I still haven't seen anything.
He has been found guilty of being a Republican President with a DIMocRAT "plurality" in the Senate. :o)
21 posted on 01/10/2002 5:15:28 PM PST by MeekOneGOP
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To: MeeknMing
The press is trying to equate Enron and Whitewater. There are too many differences to enumerate, but here are a few.

1. Whitewater was primarily HILLARY. They needed cash. They actively participated in a scheme to defraud people - including their friends. Many people in Arkansas never heard of Whitewater until it became a scandal.

2. Enron has been and is in the public eye for years. SEC, the press, stockholders, board of directors, anyone and everyone had access to their activities. GWB did not take any money from Enron except as a perfectly legitimate and legal campaign contribution - recorded in the proper fashion.

3. Whitewater had limited players - all taking a virtual vow of silence and covering up for each other - until Jim McDougall decided to spill the beans. But by that time, he was ill - making him the male equivalent of 'nuts and sluts' - except this was 'sick and senile'.

4. Someone at Enron will talk - probably a lot of someones. They will turn on each other like rats. There's not going to be a Susan McDougall - (not) pretty in orange - willing to go to the slammer as a favor for Bill.

5. GWB will cooperate, but he will not be a patsy. He also will not lie. This is where his straight-shooting type of talk will pay off. He will get the benefit of the doubt from all but the most rabid left-wingers, and of course, the press. In the past month, he has exhibited a very savvy approach to taking on his enemies in a field where his experience is fairly limited - politics. He can now take on his enemies on a playing field where his experience is considerable - energy.

6. The Dems will try to tar and feather GWB and Cheney with the 'BIG ENERGY' mantra. This is the one area where they will both have to be in-your-face defiant of the environmentalists.

7. Hillary tried to stonewall Whitewater - in the face of advice from nearly everyone. Why? She was guilty - she knows it and we know it. GWB is going to encourage the Enron investigation . Why? Because he's innocent - he knows it and WE know it - now we will have to wait for the investigation to prove it.

8. Is there a big mess w/r/t Enron? Of course, and probably a great deal of culpability on the part of the executives - if it can be documented. The SEC will be under scrutiny, too.

9. Remember how everyone hated Ken Starr because he was 'effeminate' and 'pasty' looking, etc.? Well, put a picture of Henry Waxman in your mind's eye. He's not going to glean a lot of support either. Who wants to watch him on TV all day? Rosa Lauro, Patty Murray?

10. I know I'm going to get flamed again (I do every time I bring this up), but GWB needs to replace Ari Fleischer. He cannot handle the press on this issue; they will chew him up. It's so bad now that I cringe every time I see him step up to the podium. Nice guy? Yes. Smart? Probably. Press Secretary? Bush can and should do better.

Terry Keenan (FOX) gave Bill O'Reilly an excellent summary the other night. She said savvy investors did not put a lot of money in Enron because they were trading broadband instead of dealing in energy. She said 'what does an energy company know about broadband? It made ME very suspicious and it should have made the employees very suspicious too.' O'Reilly admitted he had shares in Enron and he wanted a 'full investigation'. She suggested that if Enron was worthy of investigation, then so were many other companies.

There's way too much wailing and gnashing of teeth about this. GWB's got a lot at stake and I for one would never want to play poker with him. Besides, he's from TX and they just love a good fight. The Democrats may be biting off more than they can chew.

Bush & Waxman - wanted dead or alive. Wanna bet who wins?

22 posted on 01/10/2002 5:16:34 PM PST by SmartBlonde
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To: Howlin
By Arshad Mohammed, ooops was I profiling?

One of OBL's boys.


23 posted on 01/10/2002 5:24:14 PM PST by BobbyK
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To: Jorge
Like I said, if bankruptcy is the help they got from all their money and their "calls" to the White House, we're ALL in a lot of trouble, eh?
24 posted on 01/10/2002 5:27:19 PM PST by Howlin
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To: Jorge
So what exactly is Bush charged with? I still haven't seen anything.

Apparently his admin is charged with meeting with Enron people and talking with Enron people. I read an article yesterday with a headline something like, "Cheney admits Enron Influenced Energy Policy." What the article actually said was that Cheney said that he met with Enron six times. That's it. That's the big admission.

25 posted on 01/10/2002 5:40:59 PM PST by alnick
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To: D2BAH
I'd rather not hear the demoncraps who covered and excused clintons' fat butt for 8 years open their yaps about THIS deal.

And I'd prefer the Republicans not use the fact that the Dems are immoral louts to excuse their misdeeds. If there is any truth to this the Republicans should persue this with gusto. AND, they should point out ad naseum how they go after corruption whereas the Dems let it fester for 8 years. But, I dont think the national Republican party has any principles either.
26 posted on 01/10/2002 5:41:35 PM PST by verboten
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To: Howlin
I think Brit's people hit this dead-on tonight, especially Kondracke, which surprised me.

The "sharks in the water" remark by Feinman indicates just how overblown the press is making this affair in re: Bush/Enron. This will turn out to be a financial scandal.

Enron was engaging in funny stuff and the smart guys on Wall Street knew about it, which is why Enron was tailing off throughout the summer.

So in October, Lay calls Evans and O'Neill and intimates that there might be need for Federal help. O'Neill shields the President (God knows how many Freepers have been asking for his scalp, I don't know why) and directs his undersecretary to investigate whether the Administration should push for a bailout of Enron.

The Undersecretary, apparently a good Republican who believes that There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free Lunch, recommends no dice. O'Neill says no. Evans says no. Lay and Enron are out of luck. Three weeks later, he's in bankruptcy court.

For the Democratic theory to be correct, Bush should have helped Enron get a bailout to help his rich cronies hold on to their stock values.

But he didn't. That's where this whole thing is going to fall apart.

Meantime, however, there will be some good to come of this. Apparently, Enron higher ups were selling stock as fast as they could while the little guys were getting screwed. And they lied to their auditors, the SEC, and Wall Street.

That's called bad juju.

There will be an insider trading scandal because of this and several Enron execs will be attending seminars at Club Fed. Bush will make sure that this happens.

Needless to say, Enron's CEO is off of the Bush family Christmas card list.

Be Seeing You,

Chris

27 posted on 01/10/2002 5:47:36 PM PST by section9
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To: section9
One of the last checks Enron wrote was to the DNC for $100,000.
28 posted on 01/10/2002 5:51:26 PM PST by Howlin
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To: MeeknMing
``The White House had knowledge that Enron was likely to collapse but did nothing to try to protect innocent employees and shareholders who ultimately lost their life savings,''

That's all you got, nostril-boy?

29 posted on 01/10/2002 5:52:48 PM PST by copycat
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To: Howlin
Enron did try to get a auto industry type of bail out. They went bankrupt, meaning NO special consideration.

End of Whitehouse story.

30 posted on 01/10/2002 5:58:26 PM PST by A CA Guy
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To: D2BAH
These are documents destroyed by a major accounting firm. They know better. They also know that the financial system in the U.S. hinges on disclosure and faith. It is hard to imagine the preasure it would take for Anderson to do something like this.....incomprehensible.
31 posted on 01/10/2002 6:08:03 PM PST by kampeska
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To: verboten
"I'd prefer the Republicans not use the fact that the Dems are immoral louts to excuse their misdeeds."

Please cite the misdeeds of which the Republicans stand accused.

32 posted on 01/10/2002 6:11:09 PM PST by moneyrunner
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To: MeeknMing
Enron/Clinton connections.
33 posted on 01/10/2002 6:18:13 PM PST by Salvation
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To: KevinDavis
It is surely the fault of the Bush administration that Enron cooked the books.

Works every time as in the lib formula/logic 2+2 equals 7.

34 posted on 01/10/2002 6:23:33 PM PST by oldtimer
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To: alnick
Apparently his admin is charged with meeting with Enron people and talking with Enron people. I read an article yesterday with a headline something like, "Cheney admits Enron Influenced Energy Policy." What the article actually said was that Cheney said that he met with Enron six times. That's it. That's the big admission.

Right.
I've been hearing this stuff on the radio talk shows......and I keep listening, waiting for them to add something of substance that makes this such a huge "scandal".....and there's NOTHING.

Nobody even calls in to discuss it because there is nothing to talk about.

This is so typical of the Democrats. Trying to smear and damage Bush with these blown up non-issues.

Remember the huge revelation about Bush "drunk driving" that was supposed derail his campaign?

How about the HUGE Seminole and Martin County absentee ballot scandal that was supposed to end Bush's chances of winning the FLA recount? That huge "crime" turned out to be nothing.

Then Bush was trying to poison us with arsenic in the water.....and he was supposedly "changing Taiwan policy" and going to get us in a war with China.....and his missile defense backing out of the ABM treaty was going to return us to the cold war arms race with Russia....etc. etc. etc.

I'm sure there's plenty others can add to this list...but let's face it...the Dem's are always running around sounding the alarm like a bunch of hysterical children.

I suspect this Enron "scandal" is more of the same.

35 posted on 01/10/2002 7:12:05 PM PST by Jorge
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To: Howlin
I wish Fineman would come out and support President Bush against the lying media and RATS! He has credibility and he knows darn well President Bush is not involved in this. Thanks for the info - and if you think Williams is bad, you should have heard Judy Woodroof and John King and Bill Press on CNN! You would have been screaming - I was.
36 posted on 01/10/2002 7:45:48 PM PST by Wait4Truth
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To: Wait4Truth
I just can't do that to myself anymore. Just can't.
37 posted on 01/10/2002 7:47:25 PM PST by Howlin
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To: MeeknMing
"I have never discussed with Mr. Lay the financial problems of the company."---George W. Bush, January 10, 2002

Or, to paraphrase: "I did not have financial discussions with that man, Mr. Lay."

Give me a break!

38 posted on 01/10/2002 8:15:36 PM PST by Judge Me
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To: MeeknMing
Pardon my ignorance but, wasn't enron one of the companies that California couldn't pay during their energy crisis?
39 posted on 01/10/2002 9:02:35 PM PST by Big Guy and Rusty 99
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To: Big Guy and Rusty 99
It's very possible, but I can't confirm.
40 posted on 01/11/2002 5:25:24 AM PST by MeekOneGOP
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