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WOULD THOMAS JEFFERSON THINK WE ARE FREE?
Unknown | Unknown | Steven L. Hayes and Charles Adams

Posted on 01/08/2002 10:30:15 PM PST by Angelique

WOULD THOMAS JEFFERSON THINK WE ARE FREE?
By Steven L. Hayes and Charles Adams

What if Jefferson were to revisit America today?

Thomas Jefferson was born on April 13, 1743. In his lifetime he saw his country transformed from an English colony to a country ruled by its own citizens. Remembered by many as the author of the Declaration of Independence, Jefferson also served as President and guided the young nation through eight turbulent years. When Jefferson died on July 4, 1826 at the age of 83, he left a country and a people whose commitment to the ideas of the Declaration of Independence seemed firmly in place.

On this April 13,just after dinner, there is a knock on your door. When you open the door, you see a tall slender man with red hair. He introduces himself as Thomas Jefferson. You don't automatically slam the door and call the police but, almost against your will, you invite him in your home. Somehow you accept that this man is not an escapee from an asylum but that he really is Thomas Jefferson.

Jefferson is curious about everything and has a number of questions for you. He marvels at all the new technology in your home. He insists on a lengthy explanation and demonstration of all the appliances and machines in your home. Amazed at how quickly he understands the new technologies, you suddenly remember the statement made by President John Kennedy when he hosted a gathering of Nobel Prize winners at the White House. President Kennedy said, "This is the most extraordinary collection of talent, of human knowledge, that has ever been gathered together at the White House with the possible exception of when Thomas Jefferson dined alone."

His attention is drawn to the dining room table and the numerouscomplicated-looking forms with numbers like "1040" or "W2" or "1099" on them. He politely asks, "What are you doing?"

You feel uncomfortable, almost as if you have a guilty conscience, but you aren't sure why. You answer, "Each year on April 15, Americans are required to file an income tax return with the Internal Revenue Service, a branch of the Treasury Department. On this return, we are required to list the source and amount of all our income. The amount of income determines the percent of tax that we pay. The higher the income, the higher the rate of tax."

Then you continue, "However, the government has tried to make it simple. All Americans who work for others are required to have an estimate of their tax deducted from their earnings before they receive their pay. We call this withholding. Also, the law requires us to place our social security number on all our bank accounts. All banks where we deposit our money and people who sell stocks for us report the amount of money we earned in each account and on each transaction to the Internal Revenue Service. These actions are necessary because the government wants to ensure that all of the income taxes are collected. You see, they really don't trust the people to pay."

Jefferson is visibly stunned. "You mean Americans are required to tell an agency of the government how much money they made and where they earned it?"

"Yes," you answer. Puzzled, Jefferson says to you, "The government must have had a great financial emergency which made such a despotic tax system necessary to pay off a great deficit."

You sadly explain that there really was no emergency. You explain how the admitted national debt is in excess of $4 trillion and increasing by $200 billion each year.

Jefferson, mostly to himself, says, "In my Second Inaugural Address I warned that we must meet all of the expenses of each year without encroaching on the rights of future generations by burdening them with the debts of the past. All of us had seen the devastating effects of a national debt."

Then Jefferson asks you if you really said that the more money you earned, the higher the rate of tax you had to pay. You slowly confirm this simple fact. Strangely, it no longer seems harmless.

In a sad voice, Jefferson says, "When we wrote the Constitution, all of us knew history. We knew that great civilizations began to decline when they introduced direct taxation. In the Constitution, we restricted direct taxation because we knew it would yield the same result experienced by other nations using direct taxation-erosion of individual rights and the oppression of the minority by the majority because it could use its political power to use the government to steal from the minority."

Then Jefferson says to himself, "How can this be? Have Americans forgotten history?" You look at this man who, together with a few others, so eloquently gave birth to the idea of freedom that has pervaded the United States for most of its existence and is being echoed around the world today by countries throwing off despotism. Now embarrassed and truly ashamed, you explain that Americans, like sheep to the slaughter, meekly went along with each new law that stripped away more of their freedom.

In World War II, Americans agreed to income tax withholding as a "temporary measure" to help win the war. Of course, withholding was never ended and has become a permanent fixture. Then came the plausible rule that our social security number should be on all our accounts. In this way, the government ensures that no one evades reporting the income earned in their accounts. Of course, then came the rule that all bank accounts should file information returns and that most transactions should be reported to the government.

You state that the income tax rules are incomprehensible, that no one understands them but that the taxpayer is still responsible for compliance. You tell him that in tax matters, Americans are guilty until proven innocent. You explain how an agent of the government can come into your home and inspect all of your checks and papers and ask you to explain the purpose of each check. If the agent decides that you have not fully complied with the incomprehensible income tax code, he can arbitrarily decide that you owe more tax. If your taxes are not paid, your bank accounts can be seized and your home and other properties auctioned.

"Our people fought a revolution because of government intrusion far less than this," Jefferson says. "It is inconceivable that any of us would have tolerated this type of government tyranny. A government that has to enforce a tax on its people will not willingly pay is a government that should be immediately overthrown. In a letter to James Madison in 1787, I said, 'I hold it that a little rebellion, now and then, is a good thing, and as necessary in the political world as storms in the physical. It is a medicine necessary for the sound health of government.' Are you sure that I am in the right country? There must have been a revolution. Real Americans would never have given up their rights without a fight."

Seeing your bowed head, he knows the answer. There was no revolution. Now deeply ashamed, you try to excuse yourself by explaining to him that people who refuse to obey the tax laws are often sent to prison, sometimes for 25 to 30 years.

Jefferson just stares at you. In a low, anguished voice he says, "Is this what we risked our lives for? We thought we were giving future generations a free country ruled by the people for the people. What you have done is taken our idea and twisted it. You have freely submitted to despotism much worse than we faced. You may think that you are free, but that is because you choose not to see your chains or the walls that imprison you. No, my friend, you live in a prison. You work for the government, not for yourselves. Your ancestors would not know you. I am sorry for my country and I am sorry for you." Without another word, Jefferson walks out the door.

As you see his tall figure disappear into the mist, you are sadder than you can remember ever being. You now must admit to yourself what you have been trying to explain away. What Jefferson said is true. What has happened to us is what Thomas Paine predicted would happen if Americans lost their freedom. Our freedoms have not been taken away all at once but a little at a time. Jefferson could see it. If you really look, you can see it too.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Miscellaneous; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: nationaldebt; taxreform; thefirstrepublican; thomasjefferson; virginia
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To: Taxman
well said!

for dixie,sw

21 posted on 01/09/2002 9:25:05 AM PST by stand watie
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To: Fish out of Water
And I appreciate your thoughtful post! As far as knowing where this would be heading, take it from me, most folks do not agree with abolishing the IT! BTW, I forgot to compliment you on your astute observation about the end of slavery!
22 posted on 01/09/2002 10:41:27 AM PST by Angelique
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To: Taxman
BRAVO!!!!! Everyone should go to your site and sign the Petition, at least, and make sure to write President Bush!
23 posted on 01/09/2002 10:51:58 AM PST by Angelique
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To: Angelique
We-have-become-willing-slaves BUMP
24 posted on 01/09/2002 10:55:40 AM PST by Doctor Doom
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To: Angelique
Thank you, Angelique.

When they visit our web site, they can educate themselves, take a tax reform survey, sign our petition and most important, donate a few FRNs to help us abolish the income tax and the IRS.

25 posted on 01/09/2002 1:18:19 PM PST by Taxman
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To: Angelique, Taxman
...In a sad voice, Jefferson says, "When we wrote the Constitution, all of us knew history. We knew that great civilizations began to decline when they introduced direct taxation..

I love the article, but can anyone tell me of a successful society that doesn't utilize direct taxation?

26 posted on 01/09/2002 1:23:40 PM PST by mafree
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To: EricOKC
You're right- do you have any info that could compare whether or not post-1913 America is better off materially?
28 posted on 01/09/2002 1:43:31 PM PST by mafree
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To: Angelique
Jefferson could see it. If you really look, you can see it too.

Yep. And it becomes more painfully obvious every day.

29 posted on 01/09/2002 1:46:50 PM PST by Jefferson Adams
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To: EricOKC
Material goods and technological advancement do not determine a sucessful society.

Of course, you're right and that being the determining factor, the answer to my question may just be obvious.

32 posted on 01/09/2002 1:54:30 PM PST by mafree
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To: NC_Libertarian
Bump for later
33 posted on 01/09/2002 2:06:03 PM PST by NC_Libertarian
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To: Angelique
Would Jefferson think that we were Free ????

In a word....

HA !!


34 posted on 01/09/2002 2:11:23 PM PST by Alabama_Wild_Man
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To: Taxman
Thank you for saying the TRUTH!
35 posted on 01/09/2002 8:11:00 PM PST by B4Ranch
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To: Angelique
Having come of age reading Ayn Rand and long enough ago that she was still doing a lectures, I am no fan of the income tax. The National Retail Sales Tax is an improvement.

I believe that someday our Society will be rich enough that all legitimate government functions can be funded entirely from voluntary contributions. There were a few Greek City States that succeeded in funding themselves by hitting up the Rich for voluntary funding. In the Old west labor and funding for a Civic building or a bridge was often a voluntary affair.

As long as those paying could direct what projects they want funded, then every project would have both popular support and support of those who pay the bill. It would sure put a limit on Government.

36 posted on 01/09/2002 9:12:17 PM PST by Fish out of Water
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To: Angelique
WOULD THOMAS JEFFERSON THINK WE ARE FREE?

No.

37 posted on 01/09/2002 9:14:54 PM PST by Jay W
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To: mafree
but can anyone tell me of a successful society that doesn't utilize direct taxation?

I am sorry, but I do not have knowledge of international economics other than most countries do have some sort of a direct tax system. The rates of corporate taxes is usually far greater in proportion to that of individual income taxes, and in some countries that aspect is disproportianate. I would be curious, too, but I do think the question belies the point of the founding of THIS country.

38 posted on 01/10/2002 2:29:10 AM PST by Angelique
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To: mafree; Taxreform; 1Olgoat; AppyPappy; BlackKnight 96; BufordP; Chairman_December_19th_Society...
mafree, what you have to understand is that, historically, government is the enemy of the people, particularly [especially?) when the issue is taxation.

The history of the world is replete with struggles between the people's desire to be FRee and a (not necessarily their own) government's desire to control all aspects of people's lives.

You see this phenomenon acted out daily in local, county, state and federal governments all over the world.

Given this situation, unless the people truly control their own government, the government is not likely to endorse or allow any sort of tax system which empowers the people.

Governments support tax systems which empower government.

The major countries of the world have direct taxation because direct taxation facilitates maximum control of the people.

There are some notable exceptions: Russia recently adopted a low rate flat income tax system; Ireland has annoyed the Socialist planners in Europe by adopting a low rate tax system; Hong Kong has a low-rate flat income tax system; Monaco has a gambling tax and a sales tax, and many small countries and principalities (viz, Belize, The Caiman Islands, etc.) are known as "tax havens" because they have low tax rates.

These so called "tax havens," BTW, are under increasing attack by the high tax states (mostly European) to "harmonize" (i.e., dramatically increase) their tax rates with the high tax countries. This saga is being played out in an arena of trade, political and financial blackmail out of view of most of the world.

My point is that We the People are going to have to wage political war with our own government if we want to change to a tax system which will maximize individual FReedom and Libery, economic growth and equality of treatment under the law.

The National Retail Sales Tax (NRST) will do that very nicely, TYVM. At the same time, the NRST will empower We the People and disempower government at all levels.

Can't ask for much more than that, can we?

“I have sworn upon the altar of God eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.”
[Thomas Jefferson, letter to Benjamin Rush, 1800.]

Click here to help us scrap the Code, scrap the IRS and abolish the VLWC!

We will never be a truly FRee people so long as we have the income tax and the IRS.

39 posted on 01/10/2002 5:14:27 AM PST by Taxman
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To: B4Ranch
Thank you, sir. And I intend to keep on doing so!
40 posted on 01/10/2002 5:15:41 AM PST by Taxman
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