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Barbara Hafer drops out of Penn. GOP gubernatorial primary, Mike Fisher is lone GOP Candidate
KDKA Radio, Pittsburgh | 10/8/01

Posted on 01/08/2002 6:53:37 AM PST by Dane

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To: Badray
Hate to say you would be "wasting" your vote, as no vote is truly wasted, but in reality, that's what you would be doing. Don't forget that Luksik almost gave us Mark Singel as governor instead of Tom Ridge. She's really a one-issue candidate, and since she can't outlaw abortion she is utterly useless.
21 posted on 01/08/2002 7:39:56 AM PST by frmrda
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To: goldstategop
As long as the Clintons are in the party with their odious plans for returning to the White House, I will never vote for a democrat, and I don't care if it is someone like Mother Theresa running.

Governors control a lot of stuff that goes on in a state, and when the dem governors get control, pretty soon the legislatures turn up the same way...like has happened here in Indiana. It doesn't matter how conservative the democrat governor is, dems at the national level get their support and money.

The election of a democrat in Pennsylvania would allow Philly politics to spread throughout the state. That is what has happened here. We have elected a moderate democrat governor who is a likeable guy, but Lake County politics is starting to creep down here. Now Indianapolis, for the first time in 30 years, has a democrat mayor, and they control all city-county government. The state government isn't held in check by the legislature, because we lost that with the last election. They creep along, taking a little bit here and there, and pretty soon you are on the outside looking in.

Never, ever vote for a democrat! Never!

22 posted on 01/08/2002 7:43:22 AM PST by Miss Marple
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To: smokeyb; bloodmeridian; dukie; Hugh Akston; AGreatPer; RayBob;
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23 posted on 01/08/2002 7:49:04 AM PST by Badray
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To: Dane
Mike Fisher has the reputation of being a strong pro-life conservative candidate. I don't know how well deserved it is, but I do know that Hafer is a pro-abortion RINO.

IMHO, unless something really far out happens in the primary between Casey and Rendell, Casey's got the whole race wrapped up. Casey's got the unions in his back pocket, even in Philly where the cops and big labor can't stand Rendell.

Casey, although supposedly solidly opposed to abortion, is in favor of condom distribution in schools. And I, for one, will never forget his father's betrayal when he vetoed the first PA Abortion Control Act. I don't trust Casey's son either.

24 posted on 01/08/2002 8:36:16 AM PST by philamom
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To: Alberta's Child
If Casey is anything like his father, then social conservatives might want to cast their vote for HIM instead of Fisher.

No way. I voted for Casey's father for re-election (first time I ever voted, so I was a little naive at the time). I voted for him basically because he was pro-life and Catholic.

Since then (but not because of Casey), I have vowed to never vote for another DemocRAT again. If I can't vote for the GOP candidate, I won't vote in the race or vote 3rd party. I think if my mother was running as a DemocRAT, I wouldn't vote for her.

25 posted on 01/08/2002 8:45:06 AM PST by Mannaggia l'America
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To: Dane
Luksik for Governor. The only one committed to limited government adn freedom.
26 posted on 01/08/2002 8:47:10 AM PST by TBP
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To: philamom
IMHO, unless something really far out happens in the primary between Casey and Rendell, Casey's got the whole race wrapped up. Casey's got the unions in his back pocket, even in Philly where the cops and big labor can't stand Rendell.

Unfortunately, I agree. Casey will probably beat Fisher and we'll be stuck with a 'rat governor. He'll be like his father, toting along the social conservatives on abortion, while pummeling the state with liberal policies on everything else. Too bad Lt. Gov. Schweiker didn't run, although I don't know if he would have had a chance either.

The only hope is to keep the House & Senate controlled by the GOP so Casey doesn't do too much damage.

Sorry to sound defeatist, but that's the way I see it.

27 posted on 01/08/2002 8:49:31 AM PST by Mannaggia l'America
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To: Mannaggia l'America
Well said. I was simply presenting a "what-if" scenario involving a "conservative" Democrat against a radical pro-abortion Republican like Christie Whitman. In that case, I'd probably write in "Mickey Mouse" before casting a vote for either one of them.
28 posted on 01/08/2002 8:53:42 AM PST by Alberta's Child
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To: frmrda
"She's really a one-issue candidate, and since she can't outlaw abortion she is utterly useless."

The way I see it she is a two issue candidate - Life and Freedom. Without the first, you can't have the second. Without the second, the first isn't worth much.

I will no longer hold my nose to vote for a candidate. If he or she doesn't believe in freedom or trust me to own a firearm, they will not get my vote.

29 posted on 01/08/2002 9:04:20 AM PST by Badray
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To: Mannaggia l'America
Here in Philly, many of us in Catholic parishes distribute pro-life voters guides after Masses. Casey gets rated as "mostly pro-life " with pro-life written in bold, and many old lady FDR Democrats who wouldn't dream of voting for a pro-abort see Casey as their dream politician. If he wins the primary, (and I can't see how he'd lose), he's got the whole thing sewn up. He's got the Philadelphia unions and the whole Scranton area chomping at the bit to vote for him. Pittsburgh is not enough to save Fisher.
30 posted on 01/08/2002 9:07:24 AM PST by philamom
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To: frmrda
Agreed. Casey was A DISASTER for Penn. It was only under Ridge that the Great Commonwealth even began to recover.

Go Fisher!!! Send Casey to an early retirement!

31 posted on 01/08/2002 9:34:59 AM PST by Clemenza
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To: Miss Marple
The thing I always found strange about Indiana, is not that the rustbelt votes dem, but the fact that the area on the Ohio river does as well! It can't be just the black votes in Evansville!
32 posted on 01/08/2002 9:38:37 AM PST by Clemenza
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To: Badray
"Who are you voting for, then?"

A good question without a good answer, my friend. Maybe we can go without a governor for the next four years and see if we really need one. If it works out, maybe it will start a new trend

I think you should run, BR. You can make me your chief of media relations. We'll tell 'em all to go you-know-what themsevles. Ah, I can see it now. Pistol-packin' through the halls of the state Legislature, passing out copies of the Constitution. You could call in all your pull with Habay and Orie. You could call in Dan Adametz, each time the greenie-weenie's pound on your door, to chop down a tree somewhere and hold a press conference.

We'd be the least problematic administration in the history of the state.

33 posted on 01/08/2002 9:46:09 AM PST by bloodmeridian
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To: Alberta's Child
If Casey is anything like his father, then social conservatives might want to cast their vote for HIM instead of Fisher.

He's not. He campaigned for a very liberal pro-abort lawyer for state senate in my district.

34 posted on 01/08/2002 9:53:47 AM PST by Tribune7
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To: NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
Anyone have more details on Fisher's background for those of us who are not familiar with Penn. state politics?

He's fairly conservative. Hafer was the liberal.

35 posted on 01/08/2002 9:54:50 AM PST by Tribune7
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To: bloodmeridian
"I think you should run, BR. You can make me your chief of media relations."

LOL. Dave, I do like the way you think when you stop taking your meds.

I think that I could win the "T" and at least part of Western Pa. My first official act would be to destroy every gun owner record in the state. Next, I'd . . . .

36 posted on 01/08/2002 10:01:11 AM PST by Badray
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To: Dane
In Illinois' 1998 gubernatoral election, the race was between Dem "outsider" Glenn Poshard, a pro-life, pro-gun, anti-gay "rights" baptist from southern Illinois (he won the Dem primary when the Chicago rats split their votes between four liberal clones), and status quo Republican nominee, Sec. of State George Ryan of Kakankee. Ryan was a "centrist" Republican who CLAIMED to be margially pro-life, but was anti-gun and pro-gay "rights".

I almost never vote for a Dem, but I took the leap and cast a ballot for the socially conservative Poshard. I couldn't trust Ryan. However, most Republicans held their nose and voted for Ryan.

Four years later, Ryan has turned out to be one of the most disgusting RINO pukes we've had as governor in decades, whereas many Republicans have expressed dismay that they didn't vote for Poshard.

I don't know if the sitution is comparable in Penn., but hope this helps. I'm not a single issue pro-life voter-- nevertheless it's important to consider if the GOP candidate looks like a RINO. Be careful though.

37 posted on 01/08/2002 10:11:13 AM PST by BillyBoy
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To: Badray
My first official act would be to destroy every gun owner record in the state. Next, I'd .

As your media savvy specialist, I must advise you to broaden your horizons. Try this one on: "For my first act as governor, I'll toss every computer disc, file folder and email containing any personal information pertaining to any Pennsylvania taxpayer into the Delaware. With any luck, they'll be scooped up as they flow past Three Mile Island, get sucked into one of the cooling towers and, as ensuing nuclear waste, become irrevocably lost to big government forever. (This, of course, does not apply to suspected terrorists, excepting, naturally, our granting a waiver if you had previously plotted to overthrow the Clinton Administration.) And, now, for my next trick..."

38 posted on 01/08/2002 10:27:15 AM PST by bloodmeridian
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To: BillyBoy
I'm not a single issue pro-life voter-- nevertheless it's important to consider if the GOP candidate looks like a RINO. Be careful though.

Fisher has gone on record many times as being solidly pro-life. When it looked like the GOP primary was shaping up to be between him and RINO Hafer, he was comfortable with a very conservative image. He has been a conservative DA. It will be interesting to see if he will maintain his conservative pro-life views when he's facing Casey in the Fall.

I don't know why Hafer decided to drop out, but I can speculate that it came down to some deal with the folks who are funding Rendell. The Philadelphia Inquirer had written a couple of articles about her funding and Rendell's being largely from the same sources: i.e. suburban limosine liberals, many of whom are registered Republicans.

39 posted on 01/08/2002 10:40:00 AM PST by philamom
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To: bloodmeridian
"As your media savvy specialist, I must advise you to broaden your horizons."

That's why I'd have you handle all media related aspects of my administration. You have such a way with words.

40 posted on 01/08/2002 12:36:44 PM PST by Badray
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