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Any sufficiently advanced extraterrestrial intelligence is indistinguishable from God
Scientific American ^ | 1/7/02 | Michael Shermer

Posted on 01/07/2002 8:19:37 AM PST by dead

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As scientist extraordinaire and author of an empire of science-fiction books, Arthur C. Clarke is one of the farthest-seeing visionaries of our time. His pithy quotations tug harder than those of most futurists on our collective psyches for their insights into humanity and our unique place in the cosmos. And none do so more than his famous Third Law: "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."

This observation stimulated me to think about the impact the discovery of an extraterrestrial intelligence (ETI) would have on science and religion. To that end, I would like to immodestly propose Shermer's Last Law (I don't believe in naming laws after oneself, so as the good book says, the last shall be first and the first shall be last): "Any sufficiently advanced ETI is indistinguishable from God."

God is typically described by Western religions as omniscient and omnipotent. Because we are far from possessing these traits, how can we possibly distinguish a God who has them absolutely from an ETI who merely has them copiously relative to us? We can't. But if God were only relatively more knowing and powerful than we are, then by definition the deity would be an ETI!

Consider that biological evolution operates at a snail's pace compared with technological evolution (the former is Darwinian and requires generations of differential reproductive success; the latter is Lamarckian and can be accomplished within a single generation). Then, too, the cosmos is very big and very empty. Voyager 1, our most distant spacecraft, hurtling along at more than 38,000 miles per hour, will not reach the distance of even our sun's nearest neighbor, the Alpha Centauri system (which it is not headed toward), for more than 75,000 years.

Ergo, the probability that an ETI only slightly more advanced than we are will make contact is virtually nil. If we ever do find an ETI, it will be as though a million-year-old Homo erectus were dropped into the 21st century, given a computer and cell phone and instructed to communicate with us. The ETI would be to us as we would be to this early hominid--godlike.

Because of science and technology, our world has changed more in the past century than in the previous 100 centuries. It took 10,000 years to get from the dawn of civilization to the airplane but just 66 years to get from powered flight to a lunar landing.

Moore's Law of computer power doubling every 18 months or so is now approaching a year. Ray Kurzweil, in his book The Age of Spiritual Machines, calculates that there have been 32 doublings since World War II and that the singularity point--the point at which total computational power will rise to levels so far beyond anything that we can imagine that it will appear nearly infinite and thus be indistinguishable from omniscience--may be upon us as early as 2050.

When that happens, the decade that follows will put the 100,000 years before it to shame. Extrapolate out about a million years (just a blink on an evolutionary timescale and therefore a realistic estimate of how far advanced ETIs will be), and we get a gut-wrenching, mind-warping feel for how godlike these creatures would seem. In Clarke's 1953 novel, called Childhood's End, humanity reaches something like a singularity and must then make the transition to a higher state of consciousness. One character early in the story opines that "science can destroy religion by ignoring it as well as by disproving its tenets. No one ever demonstrated, so far as I am aware, the nonexistence of Zeus or Thor, but they have few followers now."

Although science has not even remotely destroyed religion, Shermer's Last Law predicts that the relation between the two will be profoundly affected by contact with an ETI. To find out how, we must follow Clarke's Second Law: "The only way of discovering the limits of the possible is to venture a little way past them into the impossible." Ad astra!

Michael Shermer is founding publisher of Skeptic magazine (www.skeptic.com) and author of The Borderlands of Science.


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Comment #41 Removed by Moderator

To: dead
As scientist extraordinaire and author of an empire of science-fiction books, Arthur C. Clarke is one of the farthest-seeing visionaries of our time

And a criminal psychotic who couldn't stop sodomizing little boys until he was called to his Maker.

42 posted on 01/07/2002 9:36:15 AM PST by eleni121
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To: OWK
"why do you think he is an idiot?"

Foams at the mouth? Spouts words that make no sense? Thinks that anything that might be more intelligent than he is god?

43 posted on 01/07/2002 9:36:46 AM PST by Don Myers
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To: onedoug
I think I'm paraphrasing, but who was it that said that God invented the cardinal numbers and everything else is a figment of man's imagination? Pascal maybe?
44 posted on 01/07/2002 9:39:02 AM PST by KayEyeDoubleDee
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To: Celtjew Libertarian
"So I guess a sufficiently advanced ETI would be indistinguishable from God, because He is God."

Your concept of God is extremely limited.

45 posted on 01/07/2002 9:39:13 AM PST by Don Myers
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To: Migraine
And if God is all and all is God, then God is part of the problem; I cannot accept that, either.

What do you accept in that regard?

46 posted on 01/07/2002 9:40:19 AM PST by Semper
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To: semper_libertas
I don't htink he has a flawed picture of God.

Imagine a being that could replicate every miracle in the Book. That spoke to you in your head and showed you that it knew everything you had ever done, every thought, good and bad. Spin that out as far as you wish.

If such a being said that it was God, you would be almost forced to Believe. For a True Christian, it would be the Second Coming, pure and simple.

A sufficiently advanced technology would have no problem replicating the entire series of "The Left Behind" or whatever it's called.

Trust me, you'd _know_ it was God.

Even if it was from Tau Ceti.

48 posted on 01/07/2002 9:42:01 AM PST by Abn1508
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To: dead
The believe that this is the reason for the appearance of government secrecy. Interesting topic for late night conversation.
49 posted on 01/07/2002 9:42:16 AM PST by Cold Heat
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To: eleni121
Huh? I never heard that. Also I never heard that Clarke had died. Are you sure you aren't confusing him with someone else? Clarke is/was a British science fiction writer, famous for '2001: A Space Odyssey' among other works, and last I heard he was living in Sri Lanka.
50 posted on 01/07/2002 9:43:20 AM PST by JenB
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To: Don Myers
You misread me. I'm saying that God is the only sufficiently advanced ETI to be indistinguishable from God. He is, of course, more than an ETI.
51 posted on 01/07/2002 9:43:25 AM PST by Celtjew Libertarian
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To: dead

OH MY GOD!


52 posted on 01/07/2002 9:43:31 AM PST by Incorrigible
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To: dead
Interesting, but wrong IMHO. We don't yet know whether a technology far superior to ours can be achieved only with cooperation or with an evil, tyrannical regime. My guess is that the second scenario is possible, as well as the first. Technological superiority is a different measure from godliness.
53 posted on 01/07/2002 9:47:18 AM PST by firebrand
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To: Abn1508
"If such a being said that it was God, you would be almost forced to Believe. For a True Christian, it would be the Second Coming, pure and simple."

Thank you for your words. It does give me hope that the end is coming upon us. The Bible tells us about a man of sin who will duplicate the works of God, and that the people would be deceived into thinking that he is God. I can see that many people will be foolish enough to follow the Anti-Christ.

55 posted on 01/07/2002 9:49:47 AM PST by Don Myers
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To: semper_libertas
Mathematics as modelling language tends to be a flawed and inadequate representation of many (if not most) natural principles.

That doesn't make any sense. Give me an example of the inadequacy of mathematics. People using math badly is par for the course but doesn't reflect any flaws in the mathematics itself.

56 posted on 01/07/2002 9:50:22 AM PST by tortoise
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To: JenB
Yes, he has passed on and yes, he got into trouble for his "little problem".
57 posted on 01/07/2002 9:56:54 AM PST by eleni121
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To: dead
I'm pretty sure we will blow ourselves off the map long before we ever reach a transition to a higher state of consciousness. Because no matter what our technology is or becomes, internally man still has one foot outside that cave with a bone shoved through his nose and a club in his hand.
58 posted on 01/07/2002 9:59:39 AM PST by MissAmericanPie
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To: tortoise
Somebody do the math. Isaiah, says years before the Jews were even in slavery, that they would be in bondage, how many years they would be in bondage, and the name Cyrus was declared as the Persian king that would let them go. Isaiah even went so far as to challenge the readers if their gods could do that. He was mocking them. Shows God has a sense of humor. How many carved sticks can do that. One might predict a government will fall(as some have about America), but how many can name the name of the person to revive it, before that person is even born?
59 posted on 01/07/2002 10:01:40 AM PST by chuckles
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To: eleni121
All right; I only know him from his (not very good, IMO) books. He was always a member of the 'Big Three' - Asimov, Heinlein, and Clarke - but I felt he lagged almost as far behind Asimov as Asimov did behind Heinlein. Don't know why it had to be Clarke who hung on all these years, churning out book after book of meaningless new-agey sci-fi, while Heinlein's been dead for decades....
60 posted on 01/07/2002 10:03:06 AM PST by JenB
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