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Pilot at fault used Profiling against SS Agent
CNN - Crossfire Transscript 1/4/2 ^ | 1/4/02 | Self

Posted on 01/04/2002 9:34:45 PM PST by ImphClinton

Edited on 04/29/2004 1:59:53 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

Here's one from Karen who's from upstate, New York. Big territory. "Bill, I almost always agree with you, but you are really wrong on this one. The pilot did exactly the right thing. And anyone who believes a government ID cannot be forged is living in a fantasy."


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Unfornately the President was right and the pilot was wrong. No other press Reports at All.

This Pilot needs to be fired. AA needs to apologise and give this agent and his family a lifetime free pass.
Forgot to put it in Breaking news

1 posted on 01/04/2002 9:34:45 PM PST by ImphClinton (steveangell@hotmail.com)
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To: ImphClinton
No way!

The Captain of an airplane, the same as a ship at sea, has the final say-so.

The Pilot did the right thing.

2 posted on 01/04/2002 9:38:20 PM PST by joyce11111
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To: ImphClinton
The pilot was right and the President was wrong. If we had profiling on Sept. 11th the entire catastrophe might have been averted and 6,000 Americans wouldn't be dead. If avoiding hurting people's feelings is more important than saving lives we won't have learned the lesson of Sept 11th at all. Sure he may have been wrongly kept off the plane but at the time the pilot made the right decision and the plane reached its destination. We need more profiling to avoid future Sept. 11ths.
3 posted on 01/04/2002 9:39:40 PM PST by goldstategop
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To: ImphClinton
The USSS agent needs to be fired, based on the reports we have read. He apparently cares more about his own wounded pride than in service to his nation or to the POTUS. The liberals are just going to have to lump it. How many lives would YOU be willing to offer upon the altar of Political Correctness?
4 posted on 01/04/2002 9:41:12 PM PST by Cultural Jihad
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To: ImphClinton
Apparently the agent incorrectly filled out paperwork for carrying the gun a total of three times - twice after being asked to correct it. If you were the captain, would you let such a person on your plane?
5 posted on 01/04/2002 9:41:54 PM PST by coloradan
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To: goldstategop
No, President Bush was not wrong. He said he would be "madder then hell" if his USSS agent was blocked from flying because of racial profiling. The fact (or allegation) is that the agent was blocked from flying because of his abusive and unprofessional behavior, REGARDLESS of his ethnicity.
6 posted on 01/04/2002 9:44:02 PM PST by Cultural Jihad
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To: Cultural Jihad
Time for the apocalypse ... I agree with you.
7 posted on 01/04/2002 9:45:13 PM PST by coloradan
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To: goldstategop
I seriously doubt Bill Press would have reversed himself without very compeling evidence. Especially when it makes Bush look good. I have heard that several passengers agree with the Agent and only AA employees agree with the Pilot.
8 posted on 01/04/2002 9:45:59 PM PST by ImphClinton
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To: joyce11111
ditto
9 posted on 01/04/2002 9:46:30 PM PST by the_doc
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To: ImphClinton
Bill Press is a liberal idiot. He probably gets to fly on corporate jets, and doesn't have to worry about terrorists who fly with the common folk in the cattle cars. If the elite had to live like the rest of us, they might have more common sense.
10 posted on 01/04/2002 9:47:41 PM PST by holyscroller
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To: coloradan
Time for the apocalypse ... I agree with you.

Let's be sure to tell God how truly sorry we are for our sins.

11 posted on 01/04/2002 9:47:58 PM PST by Cultural Jihad
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To: joyce11111
The Captain of an airplane, the same as a ship at sea, has the final say-so.

You took the words right out of my mouth, when you consider the task these men take on I have no complaint against any of them!!

12 posted on 01/04/2002 9:48:04 PM PST by Nitro
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To: Cultural Jihad
CNN has been giving lots of airtime everynight this week on this, all one sided of course..even my step-dad, huge demoRat supporter notice their liberal slant and agrees with the pilot.

. You’re on this flight. The Captain comes on the intercom and delivers the following announcement:

Ladies and gentlemen, before we depart I would like to make the following announcement. We have a passenger on this aircraft who is carrying a gun. He says that he’s a Secret Service Agent. He has tried three times to submit the paperwork that would authorize him to board this flight with a loaded firearm. Each time he has filled out the paperwork incorrectly. He appears to me to be nervous and anxious. I believe he has been acting in a belligerent manner. I’m going to allow him to remain on board because he is of Middle Eastern descent and I’m concerned that if we deny him his seat he might file a lawsuit against this airline claiming racial profiling. Before we close the doors and push back I’m going to allow any of you who would like to take a later flight to grab your stuff and leave.”
Just how many people do you think will be on that flight?

13 posted on 01/04/2002 9:48:50 PM PST by newsperson999
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To: ImphClinton
It's not the color of the skin that bothers me, it's the thinness.

The captain has the right ultimate responsibility to not fly when he feels it's unsafe...

15 posted on 01/04/2002 9:49:27 PM PST by null and void
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To: ImphClinton
Also, if the pilot suspected it to be a "test" and that if he allowed the guy on, he would be reprimanded, including the possibility of being relieved, then he was correct. The decision on the firing would be for sure rather than a bunch of idiotic blathering from the peanut gallery.
16 posted on 01/04/2002 9:50:08 PM PST by Waco
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To: ImphClinton
I have heard that several passengers agree with the Agent...

Yeah, we know. You can look inside the mind of the pilot and know that his hidden motive was that he was a bigot, but the other passenger was NOT a member of the DNC or ACLU or LP with a hidden agenda.

18 posted on 01/04/2002 9:50:49 PM PST by Cultural Jihad
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To: ImphClinton
I seriously doubt Bill Press would have reversed himself without very compeling evidence.

He is a Monday morning quarterback.

The pilot did the right thing. Bush should be giving the pilot a medal for his clear thinking.

19 posted on 01/04/2002 9:51:56 PM PST by Jeff Gordon
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To: TaxPayer2000;no one in particular
This SS agent cares nothing about America, his actions show it.

Ever read "Executive Orders"?

20 posted on 01/04/2002 9:52:30 PM PST by null and void
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