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Heat-Sensing Camera Detects Liars
Fox News | 01-02-02 | Unknown

Posted on 01/02/2002 10:31:57 AM PST by skateman

Scientists: Heat-Sensing Camera Detects Liars Wednesday, January 02, 2002 Email this Article A heat-sensing camera trained on people's faces was able to detect liars in a study that hints at a way of spotting terrorists at airports. In six of eight people who lied, the high-resolution thermal imaging camera detected a faint blushing around their eyes that Mayo Clinic researchers said is evidence of deception. Such facial imaging, they said, could provide a simple and rapid way of scanning people being questioned at airports or border crossings. But other scientists questioned the significance of the findings, noting that the technique was tested on a small number of people. They also said the experiment fell far short of what is needed to reveal whether thermal imaging can work accurately and quickly in real-life situations. "What they found is interesting, but it's more than a bit of a stretch for them to say this could be useful for mass screening," said Monroe Friedman, a professor of psychology at Eastern Michigan University. The experiment involved 20 Army recruits. They were randomly assigned to either stab a mannequin and take a $20 bill from its clothing, or not carry out this staged crime. The recruits were then filmed with the thermal imager as they were subjected to the same questions, with the mannequin-robbers instructed in advance to lie about their theft. The results appear in Thursday's issue of the journal Nature. Six of the eight "robbers" showed the telltale heat patterns around their eyes. Eleven of the 12 other volunteers were correctly tagged as innocent. Tests with a polygraph — popularly known as a lie detector — yielded similar results. Polygraphs measure blood pressure, breathing rate, sweating and other body changes. James A. Levine, a study author and a Mayo Clinic endocrinologist, said the blushing seen around the robbers' eyes was the thermal signature of the primitive "fright-flight response" that arises when people lie. Levine conceded the experiment was small but said the findings warrant "aggressive investigation" for potential security applications. His team is planning additional tests. Frank Horvath, a professor of criminal justice at Michigan State University, was not impressed. He said the thermal imaging camera, like a polygraph, is only picking up physiological changes caused by anxiety. Such changes do not necessarily indicate guilt or innocence, he said. And even if thermal imaging is comparable in accuracy to polygraphs, Horvath said it would not be suitable for rapid mass screenings. He noted that 25 percent of the test subjects who were lying eluded detection.


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Wow, I would love to see the reading the camera would get on Klintoon!
1 posted on 01/02/2002 10:31:59 AM PST by skateman
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To: skateman
This won't work on hitlary or bubba, because they are made of stone, no soul.

Sorry you need a soul for this to work

2 posted on 01/02/2002 10:37:17 AM PST by DrJasper
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To: skateman
I would love to see the reading the camera would get on Klintoon!

They tried it. Here is the reading they received from the camera.

3 posted on 01/02/2002 10:37:53 AM PST by isthisnickcool
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To: skateman
Klitler lies constantly so there probably would be no change, and the technique would fail when applied to the First Sociopath.

On the other hand, I'm sure it would easily detect his nose.

4 posted on 01/02/2002 10:39:14 AM PST by hang 'em
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To: DrJasper
Oops, my mistake. Sorry I completely forgot that fact. Thanks for the reminder. LOL
5 posted on 01/02/2002 10:40:04 AM PST by skateman
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He noted that 25 percent of the test subjects who were lying eluded detection.

And what percentage of truthful people would be incorrectly detected as liars and taken into the back room? Polygraphs are notoriously unreliable, and this looks to be even more inaccurate.

6 posted on 01/02/2002 10:46:16 AM PST by ThinkDifferent
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Cop 1: "Citizen, where are your guns?"

Citizen: "I haven't got any. I lost them on a hunting trip when my canoe overturned on Lake Deeply."

Cop 2 (Monitoring the TriCorder): "Oh, that's a hot one."

Cop 3: "I'll start combing the backyard with the Sonar 3000."

7 posted on 01/02/2002 10:46:35 AM PST by The KG9 Kid
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This is a typical media hype article. They take a small, practically insignificant experience and expand it into every aspect of our lives "Big brother ... security... isn't this great????" without dealing with the ramifications.

At least this article had a lot about the actual "experiment" and the reality that it was interesting but of no scientific use at this point.

And, like the scientist said, 25% of the liars eluded detection. Some people are good liars. Nothing can detect them.

8 posted on 01/02/2002 10:46:39 AM PST by Gophack
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They are going to have to get this a LOT more accurate before it can be used on a mass scale. 1 or 4 false negatives and 1 of 11 false positives translates into many many thousands of people being detained unnecessarily if used at airports...

They also don't talk about the test being beatable. What if you spread some super glue or Vasoline around your eyes to minimize the temperature differences for instance...
9 posted on 01/02/2002 10:46:59 AM PST by Stone Mountain
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I've often thought that if we arrive at the point where "they" are searching houses door to door, then guns buried in the yard are useless.

The time to use the gun is *before* the legislation is enforced, not after. IOW, after the law is passed but before the searches commence, that is *the* time to exercise your right. Burying a gun, except for caching purposes, is silly, IMO. Esp. burying them in your yard.

An unused weapon is a useless weapon. And if we ever get to a point where "they" are disarming us, we should be shooting, not hiding in our houses quaking and hoping that they don't knock on our door.

10 posted on 01/02/2002 11:01:29 AM PST by Lumberjack
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The Clintons are cold blooded, I doubt it would give any reading...
11 posted on 01/02/2002 11:05:56 AM PST by weegee
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They need to call this what it is The Mood Camera, could be bigger than mood rings...
12 posted on 01/02/2002 11:09:15 AM PST by weegee
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To: skateman
YOU ARE LYING ABOUT THIS NEW CAPABILITY!!!


13 posted on 01/02/2002 11:21:18 AM PST by LurkedLongEnough
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To: Stone Mountain
They are going to have to get this a LOT more accurate before it can be used on a mass scale. 1 or 4 false negatives and 1 of 11 false positives translates into many many thousands of people being detained unnecessarily if used at airports...

IF this is the only method, or the initial method of detection, there will be many false positives & negatives. But if this is combined with other detection methods (mainly profiling), then the numbers should be reduced to manageable levels.

14 posted on 01/02/2002 11:31:57 AM PST by backslacker
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This was mentioned in the 1981 movie called "Wolfen". The feds were interrogating a terrorist suspect under infrared and voice-pattern analysis machines.
15 posted on 01/02/2002 12:54:41 PM PST by RandallFlagg
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