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The SHOE-BOMBER vs. REAL MEN: What Feminists Have Never Understood, And Try To Distort
Townhall.com ^ | 12/31/01 | Mona Charen

Posted on 01/01/2002 3:03:51 AM PST by Dr. Good Will Hunting

In the hours after American Airlines Flight 63 landed safely thanks to the courage and strength of the flight attendants and passengers, there was a refreshing clarity about the sexes evident in the land.

Let's review: When Richard C. Reid leaned down and began touching lighted matches to his sneakers, it was a flight attendant who first attempted to stop him. She grabbed at his hands and he shoved her so hard that she landed, according to The New York Times account, four rows back. She yelled for help, and another flight attendant attempted to thwart Reid's shoe-lighting. Reid bit her on the hand hard enough to draw blood.

When she screamed, a number of male passengers, including the 6 foot, 8 inch NBA player Kwame James responded. Using anything at hand -- including plastic handcuffs, a dozen belts offered by other passengers and, eventually, sedatives from the plane's on-board kit -- four or five large men were able to subdue the "almost possessed" Reid.

The female flight attendants deserve high marks for their courage. But the episode does reveal that physical size and strength still matter in this world. It took the advent of real danger to reawaken our politically correct society to this truth.

Three years ago, my then-5-year-old son came home from kindergarten and looked at me sympathetically. "Mom, when you were a little girl, people didn't think women could be firefighters, did they?"

I knew immediately that his teacher, a lovely lady of decidedly liberal outlook, was instructing her charges on the wonderful progress of civilization.

"Well," I said, "I'm still not sure I think women firefighters are a good idea." I explained that women had been discouraged in the past from pursuing careers at all -- and this did not make sense. There is no reason that a woman cannot try a case, run a business or heal the sick.

But when it comes to tasks requiring physical strength, well, women are still smaller than men. And while many women have just as much courage, ingenuity and self-possession in emergencies as men, only the most unusual women have the strength to carry the average overweight American out of a burning building.

We've pretended for decades now that physical differences between men and women are insignificant, and where they exist, stand as a rebuke to men. Big dumb jerks. We don't need you to hold open doors for us! I can carry my own bag, bub! Except, it turns out, that when a 6 foot, 4 inch terrorist is swatting women away like mosquitoes, you do need men -- the bigger the better -- to overpower him.

What feminists have never understood, and have actually gone out of their way to distort, is that male strength has always been viewed, in Western culture, as a responsibility, not as a weapon with which to subjugate females. Women and men have traditionally taught their sons (in all but the worst families) that with physical strength must come mental and moral strength. Boys were taught the honorable use of their power -- not to intimidate but to prevent intimidation; not to bully but to protect. Despite reams of disinformation circulated by some feminists, husbands are the last people to beat or abuse women.

Perhaps the new climate of danger -- danger from evil men -- will quiet the anti-male agitation we've endured for so long. For the threat from evil men can only adequately be met by good men. Why not cheer when the manly virtues are called for and demonstrated?

Our admiration for Rudy Giuliani is not based upon his empathy -- though he showed plenty of it -- but rather for older virtues like command, authority, competence and leadership. The businessmen on Flight 93 who whispered their farewells to their wives and families, and then set down their cell phones to take on the terrorists were real men -- the best of masculinity. Were we proud of the female flight attendant who quietly boiled water to throw at the terrorists? You bet. But if it came to a fight, mano a mano, the men would have to take the lead.

As Peggy Noonan observed in Opinion Journal, Sept. 11 has brought old-fashioned virility back into style. God bless our men, who've taken so much undeserved abuse for decades, yet never stopped being men and gentlemen.


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To: Dr. Good Will Hunting
A few people on this thread need to lighten up just a bit! Have any of you seen the first pictures of the Al-Qaeda Sneaker Bomber Alumni Convention?

WAITING TO CHECK IN

141 posted on 01/01/2002 11:57:33 AM PST by stlrocket
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To: AeWingnut
Can we repeal the 19th amendment ?

No. Men are in the minority. Far better to focus on making *all* Americans function more logically.

There are plenty of male voters who are problems too. Many of them showed up on Florida buses and "messed up" their ballots by voting for "one on each page," just as they were told as they got off of the bus. Thanks goodness for their stupidity.

And, whatever you do, always support the Electoral College -- our only defense against a studid electorate.

142 posted on 01/01/2002 11:59:16 AM PST by Exigence
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To: CWRWinger
I also believe leftwing, socialist men have mentally crossed the line and become philosophically effemenate.

See what comes from "getting in touch with feminine side"?

143 posted on 01/01/2002 12:01:38 PM PST by Exigence
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To: AeWingnut
studid

Oh no... is this a spelling error... or a Freudian slip??? LOL

I meant, of course, STUPID. *g*

144 posted on 01/01/2002 12:03:20 PM PST by Exigence
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To: serinde
Who are the other people who beat or abuse women, if husbands are the last ones?

Actually, I believe "live in" boyfriends would rank right up there. They're certainly the most common abusers of children.

145 posted on 01/01/2002 12:04:41 PM PST by Exigence
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To: Catspaw
but the dummy she had to haul as part of her physical agility testing was 160-165 lbs

Exactly. This is much too low. Many, many Americans are wll over this weight limit -- as, I'm sure, were the old standards.

146 posted on 01/01/2002 12:12:57 PM PST by Exigence
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To: johnny7
Pure, unadulterated propaganda.

Ah... which black writer was it that said that ALL art is propaganda? I should be able to remember, but I'm having a "senior moment."

147 posted on 01/01/2002 12:14:36 PM PST by Exigence
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To: Catspaw
Yes. But some departments also had limits higher than 160-165 to start with. The fact that it was a volunteer dept. probably had a lot to do with it.
148 posted on 01/01/2002 12:23:39 PM PST by Exigence
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To: stlrocket;khepera;argee
Now, for real entertainment, double-click HERE
149 posted on 01/01/2002 12:45:34 PM PST by Dr. Good Will Hunting
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To: Exigence
With all due respect, there's not a word in the article that indicates that the writer is either "male-dominated" or "subservient." Perhaps you are projecting your own experiences into a text that seems rather neutral overall?

You are correct, sir!

150 posted on 01/01/2002 12:48:21 PM PST by Dr. Good Will Hunting
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To: Dr. Good Will Hunting
You hate women? (Just because you put up this article?) What a joke! hahahaha

BRAAD To The Bone Bump!
151 posted on 01/01/2002 12:56:28 PM PST by firewalk
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To: BeforeISleep;Aunt Polgara;spookbrat;Judith Anne;JMJ333;argee;khepera;Jim Robinson;John Robinson...
I've posted articles by Mona Charen, Wendy McElroy, and Norma McCorvey.

The one who insulted me (PCL) stalks female FReepers such as, but not limited to, Judith Anne, Aunt Polgara, and JMJ333. He refers to them in infantilizing terms; any woman who doesn't share his fanatically pro-abort views is labeled obsessed, and immature, and childlike.

He is also sociopathically fixated on bashing Catholicism in specific, Christianity in general.

All these comments are, as you know, easily traceable by clicking on his screen name, going to his FR homepage, and clicking on "find in forum" for a list of his most recent several dozen posts.

Clearly, the one who insults me labels all pro-lifers misogynistic: be they male or female.

He has even gone so far as to question the "sex life" (his words) of one of the female posters above.

In contrast, my posts, as exemplified by those I've made to this thread, illustrate that I hold purely equal-oportunity views.

The one who insulted me is both misogynistic, as clearly evidenced by his maltreatment of the wonderful female posters listed above, and he is also a male-bashing feminist, which is evidenced by his attacks on me over the threads I post.

The threads I have posted have said nothing to impugn men as a group, or to impugn women as a group. As again clearly indicated by every single one of my posts to this thread, I am ideologically biased, towards family-and-fatherhood-friendly conservatism and away from male-bashing-feminism. As to the practicioners of the latter, it is their ideology which impugns their character, not their gender.

Due to their embrace of male-bashing feminist ideology, I am more than happy to impugn Tom Daschle as much as Barbara Boxer, Ted Kennedy as much as Hillary Clinton.

I invite all who read this message to send me FReepMail regarding it's contents.

152 posted on 01/01/2002 1:28:24 PM PST by Dr. Good Will Hunting
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To: Dr. Good Will Hunting
Not to worry. We all can see pcl for what he is or isn't.

I have been accused of being pro-abort murder because I find pictures of aborted fetuses on this board offensive. Hah! Click on my homepage and tell me I'm pro-murder.

Happy New Year to all men who love women and to all women who love men and appreciate femininity. :)

153 posted on 01/01/2002 1:38:07 PM PST by Ms. AntiFeminazi
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To: Dr. Good Will Hunting
After going to the other threads, I can see what you're talking about. Sheesh! It doesn't matter though, ignore this silly nonsense. Happy New Year!
154 posted on 01/01/2002 1:41:19 PM PST by firewalk
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To: Catspaw
I've known plenty of farm wives with sick, injured or chronically ill husbands who pull the entire load on a farm.

As have I! BUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! If I were in a burning building, or on a plane about to be hi-jacked, you can bet your life I'd be praying for a REAL MAN, not some woosie to save our lives. Good grief, a farm and a life threatening situation are two seperate cases.

155 posted on 01/01/2002 1:41:49 PM PST by Brad’s Gramma
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To: Catspaw;Exigence
You are both right, and you are both wrong. That is because you are equating the ability to the job with the genders. male = good firefighter and female = bad firefighter is not the way to look at it. My husband was a volunteer fire chief, right when women started joining the department. He trained both, and there were two women that were better than many of the men. Because they hadn't dumbed down the requirements the rest of the woman chose to leave on their own when they found that it was work, really hard work. Many men also left because it was too hard. The women that did make it were really good, but most women do not have the physical strength to do the job.

Where I work, I ask another woman to help me move something, since they are stronger than most of the men. (they are real pocket protecter nerds).

Gender shouldn't be an issue ever, (except in the military.) We shouldn't dumb down the requirements nor should we assume all women are unfit.

156 posted on 01/01/2002 1:52:09 PM PST by ODDITHER
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To: pcl
Actually, I can usually outshoot my husband on the pistol range and he's kind of proud of it. Of course, I have a .38 and he has a .44, a little bit of weight difference. Our daughter can outshoot us both.
157 posted on 01/01/2002 1:58:45 PM PST by NYpeanut
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To: William Terrell
19th amendment, dear. No, when I said 15th amendment, dear, I meant 15th amendment. Look it up, dear. It's the same feeble argument you're trying to make against the 19th, only in color, dear.
158 posted on 01/01/2002 2:03:12 PM PST by NYpeanut
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To: NYpeanut
I can usually outshoot my husband on the pistol range and he's kind of proud of it

Isn't it wonderful to have a husband who can allow his wife and daughter to compete with him in a "manly" art? It takes a real man to do that.

159 posted on 01/01/2002 2:04:51 PM PST by pcl
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To: ODDITHER
Gender shouldn't be an issue ever, (except in the military.) We shouldn't dumb down the requirements nor should we assume all women are unfit.

I agree, but the problem is that many have decided you have to "dumb down the requirements" in order to make sure gender isn't an issue.

What we had before made gender no issue. That wasn't good enough because very few women could pass the original tests. So, the system was changed due to pressure from women's groups who wanted to see more women on the department.

I have a good friend who is a fire fighter. She is one of the exceptions. Unfortunately, most of the women who also serve on the department are not. That fact diminishes my friend's accomplishment. It's unfair to her -- and to other women like her. It's unfair to the public that depends upon to that department. Ultimately, it's unfair to men who could pass the original standards but whose slot will be given to a less physically qualified woman.

160 posted on 01/01/2002 2:27:20 PM PST by Exigence
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