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Yet another nail in the coffin of atheism. In a few days I'll post another work on the facade that is materialism, demonstrating yet again how one must embrace the most absurd theories and ad hoc conclusions in order to be an atheist.
1 posted on 12/30/2001 2:08:09 PM PST by Exnihilo
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2 posted on 12/30/2001 2:08:33 PM PST by Exnihilo
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will this thread be pulled like the Creatism v. Evolution thread?
4 posted on 12/30/2001 2:14:37 PM PST by Bogey78O
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"Evolution has been harmful to religious faith"?

...and nails have been harmful to carpentry

5 posted on 12/30/2001 2:17:27 PM PST by KirklandJunction
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The irreligious left is being split by The Wedge Of Truth
6 posted on 12/30/2001 2:23:56 PM PST by spycatcher
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To: Exnihilo
Try this.

Give the above applet a try. Watch spontaneous, life-like order emerge from some very, very simple rules.

It doesn't mean there is no God to say that we don't know everything about how life came about or what it means.

8 posted on 12/30/2001 2:31:48 PM PST by gulliver
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It is otherwise for the atheist. It is his faith that is at stake in this controversy, not ours. His faith requires that chance and natural law must be adequate to explain the facts of evolution.

While this entire article is so biased as to be practically unreadable to anyone with half a brain, it is this blind statement that annoys me most. To assume that non-believers in your particular faith are necessarily atheists is ludicrous at best. To assume that atheists must somehow justify their "faith" while you blindly seize upon your own is even more stupid. Need I go on?
11 posted on 12/30/2001 2:51:46 PM PST by balrog666
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The existance of evolution and the existance of God are not mutually exclusive concepts. All we have to do is to look at germs that develop immunity to varius antibiotics to see evolution at work, no matter how evil immunity of germs to antibiotics is.

We are called upon to have faith. To have faith, we must belive and understand that the world is more complex than we may be able to understand.

We must be careful to remember that God created man in the image of God; man did not create God in the image of man.

12 posted on 12/30/2001 2:52:37 PM PST by Tom D.
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To: Exnihilo
Interesting
13 posted on 12/30/2001 3:05:38 PM PST by Libertarianize the GOP
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To: Exnihilo

Yet another nail in the coffin of atheism.

You can post all the antiscientific vanities
you wish.  None, however, will give the
impetus needed for me to begin worshipping
an invisible man in the sky dreamed up by
a band of  desert dwellers thousands of
years ago.

17 posted on 12/30/2001 3:16:40 PM PST by gcruse
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Bookmarked and BUMPED!
18 posted on 12/30/2001 3:23:10 PM PST by ppaul
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Yet another nail in the coffin of atheism.

Reports of the death of atheism are greatly exaggerated. :-)

19 posted on 12/30/2001 3:36:30 PM PST by jlogajan
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bookmark
21 posted on 12/30/2001 3:39:19 PM PST by medved
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Evolution and design can co-exist. Read anything by Arthur Peacocke or John Polkinghorne. Ian Barbour gives a good overview of science and religion. This is a non-debate except for the likes of Dawkins, Dennett and Wilson. These atheist scientists tend to make broad metaphysical statements, based on their methodological approach. Reductionism as a methodology to understand something does not support a metaphysics of reductionism.
24 posted on 12/30/2001 3:47:01 PM PST by valhallasone
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There’s no denying that historically evolution has been harmful to religious faith.

Really? Just evolution? Okay, for the sake of the discussion, I'll give you this one.

It has contributed to undermining confidence in Scripture and to promoting a naturalistic view of man.

So has every pursuit of explanantions of our natural universe. Scientific explanations of seemingly miraculous events have always rocked they faithful as those events were used to convince the stupid of the "unknowable" in the first place. So what?

In our own age, such atheists as Daniel Dennett, Richard Dawkins, Stephen Jay Gould, and Carl Sagan

Are, or were, they all avowed athiests? Did they deny any possibility of a creator, even one unassociated with any earthly religion? Or is this just your biased view of their beliefs?

All this tripe in the first paragraph - why read further?
27 posted on 12/30/2001 4:51:56 PM PST by balrog666
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(Rom 1:20-22 NKJV) For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead, so that they are without excuse,

{21} because, although they knew God, they did not glorify Him as God, nor were thankful, but became futile in their thoughts, and their foolish hearts were darkened.

{22} Professing to be wise, they became fools,

30 posted on 12/30/2001 5:26:24 PM PST by Delta-Boudreaux
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The author questions why there are so many similarities among the species. Whether one believes in evolution or not, he poses the question as if there were only one answer. Could not the answer also be that all species were created by the same designer?

Why do the paintings of Salvador Dali look like they were painted by..... Salvador Dali? Did all evolve from one painting, or were all just created by the same artist?

Arguments may be made for evolution, but this is surely not one of its stronger arguments.

47 posted on 12/31/2001 5:51:22 AM PST by joathome
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So that everyone will have access to the accumulated "Creationism vs. Evolution" threads which have previously appeared on FreeRepublic, plus links to hundreds of sites with a vast amount of information on this topic, here's Junior's massive work, available for all to review: The Ultimate Creation vs. Evolution Resource [ver 12.
49 posted on 12/31/2001 6:33:09 AM PST by PatrickHenry
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Evolution also forgets to take into account THERMODYNAMICS. This applies even to such things as you and I. To paraphrase, "All complex systems degenerate into entropy."
How convenient to forget that, eh? Evolution states just the opposite, "Entropy degenerates into complex systems."
I've always thought this was an interesting question... no-one has ever seriously explained it away. Tried, but failed. They go back to a faith based answer of "It just is."

My favorite explanation for evolution runs this way. You have two computers, and one unfinished computer in the corner. To make an operating system for it, you pirate half the code from one and half the code from the other system and randomly mish mash them together. And hope that it works. (Hopeful monster). Or it's an asexual system, the first system copy&pastes it's o.s. onto the new system.. how many of these could go on without errors? Not many, and not reliably. Evolution is the same way, no matter how badly they try to say it isn't. And it is a religion. It takes faith to believe in it.

They really hate it when you point out that their god is an amoeba.

63 posted on 12/31/2001 1:41:03 PM PST by Darksheare
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Bump
75 posted on 01/01/2002 5:53:14 AM PST by Phaedrus
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"The Cambrian Explosion, that wild proliferation of new forms of life that occurred about 540 million years ago,..."

What the @#$% is this man talking about? Can't he read the Bible? The earth is only a little over 6000 years old!

He can't even read, and he calls himself a scientist! ;-)

110 posted on 01/08/2002 8:58:41 AM PST by Mark Bahner
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