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Man Caught Photographing Refinery in Texas
Fox News Channel ^ | 12/30/01 | Self

Posted on 12/30/2001 10:18:15 AM PST by The_Media_never_lie

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To: CWRWinger
About a year ago, my son and I took a free tour boat ride run by either the port authority or the city. We took pictures of the refineries from the boat.

They're actually real pretty at night when they're all lit up. :)

201 posted on 12/30/2001 9:15:10 PM PST by Allegra
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To: The_Media_never_lie
Thank you - you can follow the links on my profile to more photos.

My point is that I would probably take pictures of an oil refinery, too, if it looked graphic or the light was interesting. I might not be able to explain to the police my fascination with what I saw and why I wanted to photograph it, but I'm not out to harm anyone or plan an attack. Some innocent people stop their cars and take pictures when travelling.

My 11 yr old saw a cross marking the site of a fatality by the side of a road a few months ago and remarked, "Looks like someone didn't get far enough out of the road when she stopped to take pictures."

202 posted on 12/30/2001 9:44:22 PM PST by ValerieUSA
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To: The_Media_never_lie
Bin Laden loves the big booms. They make great TV. That's what he's about. From day one, I said I felt bin Laden's next target would be oil installations. Detain this photographing bastard until he can tell our investigators what the hell he was really up to.
203 posted on 12/30/2001 9:47:29 PM PST by The Kitten
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To: ValerieUSA
I love industrial plants and factories - they are so graphic. Old silos...
In case you get north to Oklahoma, you might be interested in the "round barn"
in Arcadia, Oklahoma. This is maybe 20 miles northeast of Oklahoma City on historic Route 66.

You can see some information and photos at this URL:
http://www.digitalmonkey.com/oldbarn/default.htm

Speaking of indutrial plants, have you ever seen those wonderful old photos of
Ford's River Rouge plant? I don't know the photographer's name, but the
photos make the place look like a huge cathedral dedicated to industrial might.
204 posted on 12/30/2001 10:07:48 PM PST by VOA
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To: Nita Nupress
Sorry, I didn't get a camera until 1899. :)
205 posted on 12/30/2001 10:22:29 PM PST by ValerieUSA
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To: NetValue
"Osama has directed them to strike at the US economy. I canot think of a better way."

Right you are. They've also showed keen interest in resevoirs.

206 posted on 12/31/2001 6:15:36 AM PST by cake_crumb
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To: The Kitten
"That's what he's about. From day one, I said I felt bin Laden's next target would be oil installations."

That makes sense...after all, Osama's mentor Saddam had a fascination with blowing up oil WELLS, so Osama knows he can make a big boom.

207 posted on 12/31/2001 6:39:35 AM PST by cake_crumb
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To: Salman
"It's not illegal to photograph a refinery, is it? Or is there something else about the situation that made it suspicious?"

No, it's not illegal to photograph a refinery. It's not illegal for four Saudi Nationals to "camp" in Texas, wearing nothing but the suits they came in, and with no camping gear whatsoever, while photographing, and asking the locals many questions about, water sources and resevoir locations.

It IS suspicious, however. If they learn nothing from questiong him, he'll be released. Hopefully, we won't regret it of he IS released.

208 posted on 12/31/2001 6:54:35 AM PST by cake_crumb
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To: Nita Nupress
"Refineries, with their massive stores of toxic chemicals and fuel supplies, have been identified as possible terrorist targets in the wake of the Sept. 11 attacks.

"For some reason, I don't know why, but the last couple days we've had an inordinate number of people taking pictures of refineries," said Cmdr. Brian Uhler of the Corpus Christi Police Department"

Someone PLEASE tell me this man was joking when he said that.

209 posted on 12/31/2001 7:20:38 AM PST by cake_crumb
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To: StolarStorm
"In Houston we already have a very real problem of insane truck drivers causing accidents... "

Hubby, a former ambulance driver in Houston, is of the opinion that all Houston drivers are insane....but I get your drift. It was a huge truck accident that caused him to give up in being an ambulance driver and spend a few years in Alaska.

210 posted on 12/31/2001 7:34:29 AM PST by cake_crumb
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To: cake_crumb
Sorry. I'm afraid it was no joke.
211 posted on 12/31/2001 7:46:57 AM PST by Nita Nupress
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To: Nita Nupress
That's scary.
212 posted on 12/31/2001 7:52:09 AM PST by cake_crumb
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To: auggy
I wonder what a western-easterner or a eastern-easterner looks like? Maybe, they're darker

If that remark was meant as criticism of racial profiling, forget it.

Racial profiling is a necessary means of defense in this war against a covert enemy who wears no uniform. It may not be fool proof, but it's all we have.

And until the non-violent Muslims openly denounce the war against the US and Israel, their loyalty will continue to be suspect.

213 posted on 12/31/2001 8:18:04 AM PST by Eva
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To: golitely
Surely you jest. The possible "casing" of new terrorist targets is hardly insignificant.

You make an excellent point. But the very act of photographing a refinery is still not illegal. As I said, there's more to this than they are telling us. For now, I trust Ashcroft.

214 posted on 12/31/2001 9:38:58 AM PST by Salman
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To: Salman
You make an excellent point. But the very act of photographing a refinery is still not illegal.

It is not illegal for a citizen or a person legally inside this country to photograph a petrochemical installation. However, if we are at war and agents of the entity we are at war with are photographing sensitive installations, is that not illegal?

I am not saying this man was an enemy agent, but what if?

215 posted on 12/31/2001 11:02:26 AM PST by The_Media_never_lie
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To: backhoe; ALOHA RONNIE; Nita Nupress; Uncle Bill; CommiesOut; Black Jade; cake_crumb; Eva...
to ya
216 posted on 01/02/2002 7:24:31 PM PST by ChaseR
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To: ChaseR
Lurker bump....
217 posted on 01/03/2002 1:12:41 AM PST by backhoe
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To: The_Media_never_lie; askel5; Flipyaforreal; VOA;hamiltonian; LiberteeBell; nicmarlo; Dec31,1999;
FBI is looking into person taking photos of refinery

Snapping pictures is fairly common, authorities say; patrols increased since man spotted doing so Nov. 22

By J.R. Gonzales

The FBI is investigating an incident of a person photographing the Ultramar Diamond Shamrock refinery in Three Rivers. Live Oak County Sheriff Larry Busby said a refinery employee spotted a man photographing the refinery on the afternoon of Nov. 22 off U.S. Highway 281. The investigation was turned over to the federal authorities shortly after.

"The individual looked Middle Eastern," Busby said.

He said the man sped away when approached by refinery employees.

Authorities traced the license plate of the driver's vehicle to a car rental agency in McAllen. Busby said the 2001 Dodge van was rented the same day the man was seen taking pictures of the refinery. The vehicle was returned the Sunday after Thanksgiving.

According to the sheriff, the man used a New York driver's license to rent the vehicle.

Calls to FBI offices in Corpus Christi and Houston were not returned. Representatives from Ultramar Diamond Shamrock did not return a call for comment.

As of Thursday morning, Busby said the FBI had not contacted his office to provide any follow-up information.

Busby said it is not uncommon for people to take pictures of the refinery at different times of the day.

He said a lot of people pull over to take photographs at night, just to get a snapshot of the lights.

Stepped-up

Nonetheless, both Busby and Three Rivers police chief Ace Robbins said patrols have been stepped up near the refinery.

"We're sticking as close by as we can," said Robbins.

After the Sept. 11 attacks, residents there spotted a suspicious airplane circling the refinery. Busby said the plane could have been training or Confederate Air Force aircraft.

Contact J.R. Gonzales at 886-3779 or gonzalesj@caller.com

December 14, 2001

219 posted on 02/09/2002 6:53:31 PM PST by RaceBannon
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To: RaceBannon
I remember reading about that. The weird things with all these reports/sightings, there never seems to be any follow-up....
220 posted on 02/09/2002 6:55:30 PM PST by nicmarlo
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