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Archaeologists Find Celts in Unlikely Spot: Central Turkey
NYT ^
| 12/25/2001
| JOHN NOBLE WILFORD
Posted on 12/24/2001 10:20:40 PM PST by a_Turk
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Shoot, this ain't really news, especially when folks play bagpipes in Turkey.
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posted on
12/24/2001 10:20:40 PM PST
by
a_Turk
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Torie; MHGinTN; hogwaller...
ping
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12/24/2001 10:21:13 PM PST
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a_Turk
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Map Kernow; alethia...
ping
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12/24/2001 10:21:26 PM PST
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a_Turk
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Sci Fi Guy...
ping
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12/24/2001 10:21:47 PM PST
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a_Turk
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ping
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posted on
12/24/2001 10:22:02 PM PST
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a_Turk
To: a_Turk
It's funny when someone writes up a "news" article "revealing" something that is widely known.
The Celts lived all over Europe prior to historical times, and anyone with access to a map--and the ability to read the names "Galatea" in Turkey, "Galicia" in Poland, and "Galicia" in Spain--could have "broken" this story.
To: denydenydeny
I agree... without being flippant I thought everyone knew this. From what I have read even the young Gauis Julius Caesar used Galatian militia troops in Turkey to oppose the incursion of an eastern potentate. Even at this time these "Galatians" were still in communication with their kin in European Gaul. Of more interest, it was Galatians converted to Christianity who went to Gaul as missionaries... 300 years after their ancestors had left Gaul for Turkey.
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posted on
12/25/2001 1:55:22 AM PST
by
waxhaw
To: a_Turk
Not a surprise to me, but very very interesting...thanks for the post.
To: a_Turk
Good Post
Thanks for the Ping
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posted on
12/25/2001 3:37:21 AM PST
by
Fiddlstix
To: a_Turk
See also:
Celtis Mummies in China. It would seem that the world was a much more diverse and mobile place than historians have previously believed.
To: a_Turk
Shoot, this ain't really news, especially when folks play bagpipes in Turkey. Agree -- the most revealing thing this article exposes is the author's ignorance of classical history. Peoples migrated just as far then as they do now, and there are many references to Gauls in Anatolia in ancient history.
Ah well, it was an interesting read, worth checking out.
To: a_Turk
Hmmm I thought the Turks were more closely related to the mongols then anyone else( explaining their great fighting ability).
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12/25/2001 7:33:48 AM PST
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weikel
To: weikel
The Turks are related to central Asian tribes, in fact, that's where we, the Oghuz Turks, originated. The article talks about the history of the land we conquered about a 1000 years ago. That land, Asia Minor, has been a crossroads of civilizations. The Celts are one of the less known civs that reached there. Others include Greeks, Macedonians, Romans, Hitites, and so on.
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12/25/2001 9:02:36 AM PST
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a_Turk
To: a_Turk
Those Celts certainly get around .Even here in the Southland of the USA we have alot of Celtic ancestry.
To: a_Turk
Interesting, thanks.
To: a_Turk
Thanks for the ping. I think this area has the most amazing history of any area in the world. Truly a crossroads.
To: LostTribe
What's your opinion??
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12/25/2001 7:23:13 PM PST
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fso301
To: a_Turk;Gods, Graves, Glyphs;
This needs to be on the list.
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To: a_Turk
The Turks are related to central Asian tribes, in fact, that's where we, the Oghuz Turks, originated. ... Asia Minor, has been a crossroads of civilizations. The Celts are one of the less known civs that reached there. Brent Kennedy's book The Melungeons: Resurrection of a Proud People makes a convincing arguement for Turkish settlers in the Appalachian highlands of the United States. When the Scotch-Irish traveling down the Big Valley got to eastern Tennessee, they encountered a Mediterranean folk who'd got there first. They called themselves "melangeons," a Portaguese term meaning "shipmates" which is apparently cognate with the Turkish expression "melun can" (accursed soul). Perhaps, descendents of the 400 or so galley slaves (shipmates who were accursed souls!) who Sir Francis Drake liberated in South America, and apparently put ashore in North Carolina.
And, let's not forget the incredibly detailed maps of our coasts made by pirate and cartographer, the Turk Piri Ris.
Mr. Kennedy may be trying to hard to make his case, but his book is fascinating reading. Cognates of Turkish terms turn up in Indian place names -- kan tok -- full of blood, for example. (think about it)
To: denydenydeny
>The Celts lived all over Europe prior to historical times,
Yep. Click on my Profile for the whole story.
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