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Only in Their Dreams : Why is the "Arab street" silent? A radical Muslim fantasy meets reality
Time Magazine ^ | Monday, Dec. 24, 2001 | CHARLES KRAUTHAMMER

Posted on 12/18/2001 3:29:18 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach

December 24, 2001 Vol. 158 No. 27
Only in Their Dreams
Why is the "Arab street" silent? Because a radical Muslim fantasy has met reality
BY CHARLES KRAUTHAMMER

The West has not fought a serious religious war in 350 years. America is too young to have fought any. Our first reaction, therefore, to the declaration of holy war made upon us on Sept. 11 was to be appalled, impressed and intimidated. Appalled by the primitivism, impressed by the implacability, intimidated by the fanaticism.


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Intimidation was pervasive during the initial hand-wringing period. What have we done to inspire such rage? What can we do? Sure, we can strike back, but will that not just make the enemy even more angry and determined and fanatical? How can you defeat an enemy who thinks he's on a mission from God?

How? A hundred days and one war later, we know the answer: B-52s, for starters.

We were from the beginning a little too impressed. There were endless warnings that making war on a Muslim nation would succeed only in recruiting more enraged volunteers for bin Laden, with a flood of fierce mujahedin going to Afghanistan to confront the infidel. Western experts warned that the seething "Arab street" would rise up against us.

Look around. The Arab street is deathly quiet. The mobs, exultant on Sept. 11 and braying for American blood, have gone home. There are no recruits headed to Afghanistan to fight the infidel. The old recruits, battered and beaten and terrified, are desperately trying to sneak their way out of Afghanistan.

The reason is simple. We won. Crushingly. Astonishingly. Destroying a regime 7,000 miles away, landlocked and almost inaccessible, in nine weeks.

The logic of victory often eludes the secular West. We have a hard time figuring out an enemy who speaks in religious terms. He seems indestructible. Cut him down, and 10 more will rise in his place. How can you destroy an idea?

This gave rise to the initial soul searching, the magazine covers plaintively asking WHY DO THEY HATE US? The feeling that we might be responsible for the hatred directed against us suggested that we should perhaps seek to assuage and placate. But there is no assuaging those who see your very existence as a denial of the faith and an affront to God. There is no placating those who offer you the choice of conversion or death.

There is only war and victory.

Mullah Omar and bin Laden are animated by a vision. They really do believe--or perhaps did believe--that their destiny was to unite all the Muslim lands from the Pyrenees to the Philippines and re-establish the original caliphate of a millennium ago. Omar took the sacred robe, attributed to Muhammad and locked away for more than 60 years, and triumphantly donned it in public as if to declare his succession to the Prophet's earthly rule. (Osama harbored similar fantasies about himself, although he fed Omar's, as a form of flattery and enticement.)

Such visions are not new. Omar's and Osama's are just as expansive, just as eschatological, and yet no more crazy than Hitler's dream of the Thousand-Year Reich or Napoleon's of dominion over all Europe. The Taliban and al-Qaeda, like Nazi Germany and revolutionary France, represent not just political parties or power seekers; they also represent movements. And a movement carries with it an idea, an ideology, a vision for the future.

That is where the mad dreamers are vulnerable: the dream can be defeated by reality. What was left of Nazi ideology with Hitler buried in the rubble of Berlin? What was left of Bonapartism with Napoleon rotting in St. Helena? What was left of Fascism, an idea that swept Europe and entranced a generation, with Mussolini's body hanging upside down, strung up by partisans in 1945?

What is left of the great caliphate today? It is a ruin. Caliph Omar is in hiding; Caliph Osama, on the run.

This is not to say that Islamic fundamentalism is dead. But it has suffered a grievous blow. Its great appeal was not just its revival of a glorious past but also the promise that it was the wave of the future, the inexorable tide that would sweep through not just Arabia but all Islam--and one day the world.

That is why Afghanistan is such a turning point. It marks the first great reversal of fortune for radical Islam. For two decades it tasted one victory after another: the Beirut bombings of 1983 that chased America out of Lebanon; "Black Hawk Down" that chased America out of Somalia; the first Afghan war that chased the Soviet Union out of Afghanistan--and led to the collapse of a superpower, no less. These were heady victories, as were the wounds inflicted with impunity on the other superpower: the 1993 attack on the World Trade Center, the 1998 destruction of two U.S. embassies in Africa, the 2000 attack on the U.S.S. Cole. The limp and feckless American reaction to these acts of war--a token cruise missile here, a showy indictment there, empty threats everywhere--only reinforced the radical Islamic conviction that America was a paper tiger, fat and decadent, leader of a civilization grown weak and cowardly and ripe for defeat.

For the fundamentalist, success has deep religious significance. The logic of the holy warrior is this:

My God is great and omnipotent.
I am a warrior for God.
Therefore victory is mine.

What then happens to the syllogism if he is defeated? To understand, we must enter the mind of primitive fundamentalism. Or, shall we say, re-enter. Our Western biblical texts speak of a time 3,000 years ago when victory in battle was seen as the victory not only of one people over another but also of one god over another. Triumph over the "hosts of Egypt" was of theological importance: it was living proof of the living God--and the powerlessness and thus the falsity of the defeated god.

The secular West no longer thinks in those terms. But radical Islam does. Which is why the Osama tape, reveling in the success of Sept. 11, is such an orgy of religious triumphalism: so many dead, so much fame, so much joy, so many new recruits--God is great.

By the same token, with the total collapse of the Taliban, everything has changed. Omar has lost his robe. The Arab street is silent. The joy is gone. And recruitment? The Pakistani mullahs who after Sept. 11 had urged hapless young men to join the Taliban in fighting America and now have to answer to bereaved parents are facing ostracism and disgrace. Al-Qaeda agents roaming the madrasahs of Pakistan and the poorer neighborhoods of the Arab world will have a much harder sell. The syllogism of invincibility that sustained Islamic fanaticism is shattered.

We have just witnessed something new in the modern world: the rollback of Islamic fundamentalism. We have just witnessed the first overthrow of a radical Islamic regime, indeed, the destruction of radical Islam's home base. Yesterday the base was Afghanistan. Today it is a few caves and a few hidden cells throughout the world. Al-Qaeda controls no state, no sovereign territory. It is an outlaw on the run.

Rollback is, of course, a cold war term. For decades our approach to Islamic terrorism was like our approach to communism: containment. Do not invade its territory, but keep it, as Clinton liked to say of Saddam, "in a box." We tried containing al-Qaeda with a few pinprick bombings and an attack on a pharmaceutical factory in Sudan. These were nothing but an evasion, a looking the other way. Sept. 11 proved the folly of that approach. President Bush therefore announced a radically new doctrine. We would no longer contain. We would attack, advance and destroy any government harboring terrorists. Afghanistan is now the signal example. Just as the Reagan doctrine reversed containment and marked the beginning of the end of the Soviet empire, the Bush doctrine marks the beginning of the rollback of the Islamic terror empire.

Of course, the turning of the tide is not the end of the war. This is the invasion of Normandy; we must still enter Berlin. The terrorists still have part of their infrastructure. They still have their sleeper cells. They can still, if they acquire weapons of mass destruction, inflict unimaginable damage and death. Which is why eradicating the other centers of terrorism is so urgent.

We can now, however, carry on with a confidence we did not have before Afghanistan. Confidence that even religious fanaticism can be defeated, that despite its bravado, it carries no mandate from heaven. The psychological effect of our stunning victory in Afghanistan is already evident. We see the beginning of self-reflection in the Arab press, asking what Arab jihadists are doing exporting their problems to places like Afghanistan and the West; wondering why the Arab world uniquely has not developed a single real democracy; and asking, most fundamentally, how a great religion like Islam could have harbored a malignant strain that would rejoice in the death of 3,000 innocents. It is the kind of questioning that Europeans engaged in after World War II (asking how Fascism and Nazism could have been bred in the bosom of European Christianity) but that was sadly lacking in the Islamic world. Until now.

It is beginning now not because our propaganda is good. Not because al-Jazeera changed its anti-American tune. Not because a wave of remorse spontaneously erupted in places like Saudi Arabia. But because, with our B-52s, our special forces, our smart bombs, our daisy cutters--our power and our will--we scattered the enemy.

What the secular West fails to understand is that in fighting religious fanaticism the issue--for the fanatic--is not grievance but ascendancy. What must be decided is not who is right and wrong--one can never appease the grievances of the religious fanatic--but whose God is greater. After Afghanistan there can be no doubt. In the land of jihad, the fall of the Taliban and the flight of al-Qaeda are testimony to the god that failed.


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To: walden
Yes, life is indeed becoming tough for terrorists these days. Even the mostly braindead are finally getting a clue. When you are right, right wins. When it is righteous and just, righteousness and justice win. The United states will win and Israel will win because we cannot afford NOT to. I would like them to question their god further. With a decently constructed weapon, or several from different directions, utilizing soundwaves aimed directly at the Kaaba from the fringes of the Hadj, it would become an instant sandpile, if it isn't already. A sign from Allah that their luckah has run allah the way outtah.
61 posted on 12/18/2001 8:43:25 PM PST by NixNatAVanG InDaBurgh
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To: NixNatAVanG InDaBurgh; walden
sorry. couldn't resist.
62 posted on 12/18/2001 8:47:12 PM PST by NixNatAVanG InDaBurgh
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Good article. But (boy there always has to be a but)This is act one in a (at least) ten act play. Before we get to far ahead of ourselves and thinking that this is going to be a piece of cake lets take alook at what we did. We took a country that has suffered 20+ years of war, an extremly poor nation without much in the way of an army(at least not in the western sense of the word) ruled by some pretty nasty folks but without alot of streetlevel support.
So we allied ourselves with the second most powerful group gave them intel and air support and bombed the crap out of hasbin and the taliban(this IS a good thing). But this was/is a cakewalk. And we still don't have hasbins head on a spike in front of the whitehouse, that we will I have no doubts but he is a slippery little bas*ard and it will take sometime to track him down.
Now on to act two Iraq may be just as easy but from there on things start to get a lot harder. Not so much from a military standpoint but from a policical/diplomatic standpoint. One scenario, what happen when the presindent calls up the Saudis and asks them what the he** is the deal with these Wahabis, the American government and people really have a problem with these guys preaching war against the west. Make them go away or we will. Given that the wahibis and the royal family are locked in a(how shall I put this) close relationship, what does the family Saud do? If you don't think this isn't being kicked around in the whitehouse and pentagon think again. As for the "arab street", yes they are quiet TODAY...next week? Who knows, but know this they will be back. < /wetblanket>
63 posted on 12/18/2001 8:47:45 PM PST by Valin
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To: NixNatAVanG InDaBurgh
A sign from Allah that their luckah has run allah the way outtah.

ROFLMAO***!!!

64 posted on 12/18/2001 9:11:14 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Valin
Chris Matthews was pursuing the issue of the Saudi's and the Wahabbis on his show tonight!
And the issue of Pakistan and India in Kashmir was discussed on the Brian Williams News hour.
I don't think that Iraq is or should be next!

Many issues to be concerned about!

The India , Pakistan issue might be one that we don't have a good answer for!

65 posted on 12/18/2001 9:20:07 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: dennisw
You got "Scott from the Left Coast" in there twice!!
66 posted on 12/18/2001 9:49:18 PM PST by SierraWasp
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Chris Matthews was pursuing the issue of the Saudi's and the Wahabbis on his show tonight!
And the issue of Pakistan and India in Kashmir was discussed on the Brian Williams News hour.

When this war is over the world will have a very different look to it. As to what it will look like I really have no idea. But the last time the American people were this tick off was 7 Dec 1941 and 4 years later there were not too many building standing in europe or Japan. I don't think this would be a good time to move into the beka valley in Lebanon just to name one place.

67 posted on 12/18/2001 9:53:03 PM PST by Valin
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Thanks for this great post!

Look around. The Arab street is deathly quiet. The mobs, exultant on Sept. 11 and braying for American blood, have gone home. There are no recruits headed to Afghanistan to fight the infidel. The old recruits, battered and beaten and terrified, are desperately trying to sneak their way out of Afghanistan.

The reason is simple. We won. Crushingly. Astonishingly. Destroying a regime 7,000 miles away, landlocked and almost inaccessible, in nine weeks.

That is where the mad dreamers are vulnerable: the dream can be defeated by reality. What was left of Nazi ideology with Hitler buried in the rubble of Berlin? What was left of Bonapartism with Napoleon rotting in St. Helena? What was left of Fascism, an idea that swept Europe and entranced a generation, with Mussolini's body hanging upside down, strung up by partisans in 1945?

What is left of the great caliphate today? It is a ruin. Caliph Omar is in hiding; Caliph Osama, on the run. "

Actually, I think the historical lesson that was left out, is the best learning example. When we took on the Imperial Japanese Army and Navy in WWII, they were highly successful. They were racists and fanatics. General McArthur knew that we had to kill them and destroy their war toys. The lesson from WWII in the Pacific was that not a single dead Japanese Army racist thug ever hurt, raped nor killed another innocent person. Their fanaticism was crammed down their throats and other orifices by our Marines and soldiers who killed and killed and killed these dangerous fanatics!

We didn't do that in Korea, the Cold War, Viet Nam and even in Iraq. That softness/kindness let the enemy recover to go back to killing innocents and being Rogue nations!

President GW and his team know history and they are making history again as they destroy, kill and eliminate the Islamic Fanatics.

Krauthammer has a good article but he flunked history by having amnesia and being kind to Jimmy Carter. The first victory of Islamic Fanatics happened when the Shah was over turned and the Fanatics took over Iran. Then they seized our embassy and pussy Carter allowed them to get away with it. That sent a loud and clear signal to all Arab despots. America was a pussy nation, and they could get by with anything.

They did until 9/11. They got by with 9/11 for about 1 month. Now a large and dangerous wing of the Islamic thugs have been killed, captured and proven to be the real new pussy's of the world as they cried and begged not to become prisoners of American Specops people! Not a single American was killed in combat by these pussy goat humpers!

Our technology was great. Now we have weeded the pink panty generals, colonels, admirals and navy captains out of the decision process. Now when our spec op guys find an enemy force. Those enemies are killed by massive air strikes in minutes! No hand holding and worrying about public opinion!

If you think our guys were good in Afghanistan just wait until you see what they do to the next terrorist countries!

The super rich Arabs who financed OBL and Omar have been watching and their Depends under their robes are overflowing. All of them are cowards like OBL. They can order Joe jihad to die, but they flee when it comes to them!

Of course this is driving our left wingers and the right wingers who hate any success that America has had. It will get worse for them as the next phase kicks in!

68 posted on 12/18/2001 10:04:01 PM PST by Grampa Dave
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To: Stavka2
Sorry for the oversight. You were gone for a few months.

 

These are the Musli, historical accuracy has no meaning for them in their religious dialectic. As with everything, it is just a tool to spread their version of the dialectic...as much an epidemic on man kind as the former Soviet variety.

10 Posted on 06/20/2001 21:56:41 PDT by Stavka2
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69 posted on 12/18/2001 10:08:28 PM PST by dennisw
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To: SierraWasp
It don't mean he gets pinged twice. I know how the FR server processes bump lists.

Meanwhile thanks for your good e-newpaper and Merry Christmas!

70 posted on 12/18/2001 10:29:16 PM PST by dennisw
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To: dennisw
I saw C.K. with Brit, too. He makes you pay attention.
71 posted on 12/19/2001 4:02:58 AM PST by vrwc54
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
It seems to me there is a very legitimate question about how far along the road to ultimate victory we are. To use the World War II metaphor is this the summer of 1942 or the summer of 1944? Is this Normandy or is this El Alamein? Only time will answer that question. There is a great deal that remains to be done and I have confidence the USA will do it. Yet it is still possible if we are lacking in our resolve to lose this war. That possibility remains until we achieve ultimate victory.

The Arab street may be quiet for the moment but that I fear will not last unless we continue to amass victory after victory.

Stay well - stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown

72 posted on 12/19/2001 4:22:39 AM PST by harpseal
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Great article!
73 posted on 12/19/2001 4:58:24 AM PST by woofie
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Good article! IMHO, we can lay the attack on the USS Cole, the embassy bombings, the terror attacks of Sept 11 and the rise of radical Islamic terror in general squarely on the shoulders of President William Jefferson Clinton. While he was getting BJ's from young interns in the Oral Office, the enemies of America were plotting our defeat.

Just as the Reagan doctrine reversed containment and marked the beginning of the end of the Soviet empire, the Bush doctrine marks the beginning of the rollback of the Islamic terror empire.

And not a Democrat in sight, hmmm...

Of course, the turning of the tide is not the end of the war. This is the invasion of Normandy; we must still enter Berlin.

Berlin=Iraq and Saddam.

After Afghanistan there can be no doubt. In the land of jihad, the fall of the Taliban and the flight of al-Qaeda are testimony to the god that failed.

This needs to be seen and understood by the fanatic muslim world including the muslims in this country.

74 posted on 12/19/2001 5:25:43 AM PST by Walkin Man
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
The only thing they respect over there is strength. Give them the weakness of the last eight years and they breed on it.
75 posted on 12/19/2001 5:31:34 AM PST by Mr.Clark
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To: Valin
The point of the article is many of the extremists are losing support because "their" God failed them. Miserably. Our God showed up and kicked the living snot out of their "holy" cause. So now we are seeing some moderate islam pop up all over. Afghanastan was supposed to be won by Islam...that what Osama and Omar said but they failed. Many muslims see that over there and now question them AND their Allah. Allah didnt perform their miracle...
76 posted on 12/19/2001 5:33:16 AM PST by smith288
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To: dead
The fat, decadent, weak and cowardly leader was an aberration, whose time has passed.

........not if Hitlery or Dash-hole finds their way into the White House in 2004. LOL.

77 posted on 12/19/2001 6:01:54 AM PST by DoctorMichael
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To: analog
Re #45

Whether we worship god does not matter. I do not believe in any God, either. However, the other guys see things that way. So to be effective, we have to figure out what is the most powerful blow to them. We have to think like them to devise the best strategy, even for temporarily. Otherwise, we will be scratching our head forever.

This has happened to well-meaning Americans for a long time. Americans tend to think that everybody else think like them essentially. That is not always true. Many culture have different order of priorities. In Islam, God's presence in society is more pervasive than the West. If the god fails, the whole society buckles. It is like being hit by A-bomb.

80 posted on 12/19/2001 10:09:32 AM PST by TigerLikesRooster
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