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To: shrinkermd
Many intelligent-design proponents believe there is a conspiracy to keep their ideas out of scientific circles.

Yeah, there really is a conspiracy -- to keep junk science out. Good on them. When ID can do better than quote scripture from the Bible, when it can present some sort of affirmative evidence, it'll make the grade.

Right now ID is just a retreat-in-force from pure reliance on Biblical revelation -- which has been laughed out of court for being so naively wrong. "I guess we better look for some evidence, ehy boys?"

6 posted on 12/18/2001 7:18:21 AM PST by jlogajan
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To: jlogajan
When ID can do better than quote scripture from the Bible, when it can present some sort of affirmative evidence, it'll make the grade.

You might wish to read, say, Michael Behe's book for starters.

I have degrees in chemistry and chemical engineering, and though I'm a conservative evangelical Christian, I see no evidence in the Bible for anything more than "God created the Heavens and the Earth." If he chose to do it via evolution, I have no problem with that. However, the theory of evolution as currently taught is fraught with huge difficulties. Those who don't recognize those difficulties either don't understand the implications of the theory or refuse to face the facts. I don't believe that the earth was created 6,000 years ago (the Bible certainly doesn't teach this notion nor does evidence suggest it), but I'm more likely to believe that proposition than I would the idea that "chance" brought the universe into existence, as if "chance" were some kind of mystical force.

14 posted on 12/18/2001 7:27:20 AM PST by DallasMike
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To: jlogajan
Yeah, there really is a conspiracy -- to keep junk science out.

The evolutionary theory has craters throughout it. It was my understanding that science works to discover and can only do this by not knowing. The problem is so many are working to prove evolution, that any other answers out there are "bogus". That is not science, that is an agenda. Science LOOKS for answers, it does not attempt to make all fit into the box it has created. I would say those worshipping the evolutionary theory are the ones practicing "junk science".

15 posted on 12/18/2001 7:27:22 AM PST by dubyagee
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To: jlogajan
Jesus loves you, and I'll pray for you.

Merry Christmas.

45 posted on 12/18/2001 8:26:44 AM PST by Gargantua
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