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WHY DIVORCE IS SO PREVALENT: The #1 Answer To Society's #1 Problem
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Posted on 12/14/2001 3:21:12 PM PST by Dr. Octagon

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To: pcl
While I definitively advocate systemic alterations indicated previously, I do respect the idea of pre-marital counseling. If romantic love can co-exist with realistic expectations, that would be constructive indeed. Thank you for an original and constructive addressing of the issue at hand.
161 posted on 12/15/2001 1:58:03 AM PST by Dr. Octagon
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To: ALL
Does anyone else wish to address the topic?
162 posted on 12/15/2001 1:59:48 AM PST by Dr. Octagon
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To: Dr. Octagon
A simple Meme needs to be spread:

The only person I can change is myself

or maybe one that aims at core values:

When I change myself, I change others and save the children.

163 posted on 12/15/2001 2:04:36 AM PST by pcl
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To: ALL
A parody:

Good: Pax?

Evil: I'LL DO WHAT I WANT ARROGANT NEWBIE!!!!

Good: Pax now? :o) :O) ;O)

Evil: I'VE BEEN HERE FOR YEARS! I'M GIVING YOU YOUR COME-UPPANCE! I CAN SORT OF TRANSLATE NOM-DE-PLUME WHILE SIMULTANEOUSLY DIS-ALLOWING IT'S TRANSFERRANCE TO THE ELECTRONIC MEDIUM!!!

164 posted on 12/15/2001 2:07:52 AM PST by Dr. Octagon
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To: GreatOne
You forgot "A" number 4 - Attorneys. There are too many lawyers.
165 posted on 12/15/2001 2:10:27 AM PST by Bernard
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To: pcl
And I think that couples should discuss the utterly unromantic expectations pre-maritally! Who will do this, who will do that? Si? What does PCL stand for? I'll spill if you will.
166 posted on 12/15/2001 2:11:02 AM PST by Dr. Octagon
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To: Bernard
GreatOne is an attorney. But I believe a good one.
167 posted on 12/15/2001 2:12:25 AM PST by Dr. Octagon
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To: Dr. Octagon
" Ugly, sad and pathetic " is exactly what YOU turned this all into. Your very first post to me, was a personal attack. You think that no one is going to give it back to you , when YOU engage in such vainglorious piffle ?

Oh, and just a little FYI , newbie , Halloween had absolutely NOTHING at all to do with the reasoning or importance of when I became a FREEPER. On that date, FR held it's FIRST major event : THE MARCH FOR JUSTICE , in Washington, D.C. , and that day is revered, well remembered, and almost hallowed here. Hundreds of people attended, well known, and great speakers talked, and it was televised.

It really would behoove YOU , to learn some FR History ; not to mention manners, and what to do and what NOT to do around here.

168 posted on 12/15/2001 2:14:18 AM PST by nopardons
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To: Dr. Octagon
I do respect the idea of pre-marital counseling

While I would not dismiss pre-marital counseling, I do think we need to go a bit further. We need pre-relationship counseling. There are a lot of relationships that never reach marriage but do produce children.

169 posted on 12/15/2001 2:16:10 AM PST by pcl
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To: Dr. Octagon
What does PCL stand for?

My initials.

170 posted on 12/15/2001 2:17:12 AM PST by pcl
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To: ALL
Forget surrender...pax now?

Let's be friends, forget any vitriol which has been, and come together in a spirit of joy and love.

171 posted on 12/15/2001 2:21:26 AM PST by Dr. Octagon
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To: pcl
Oh. Hoped there was a long tale behind it. :0)
172 posted on 12/15/2001 2:22:17 AM PST by Dr. Octagon
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To: pcl
How implemented? Priests?
173 posted on 12/15/2001 2:23:08 AM PST by Dr. Octagon
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To: onyx
No, it was 1961, at the UN, Krischev bangged his shoe on his desk ( podium ? ) and Nixon was stil V.P. ! LOL

Hey there, did you notice that its the old " flypaper " thingy again ? : - )

Oh, and can you imagine that anyone would expect someone to read gobbledegook, unparagraphed tripe, written by an over rated , stinking lefty author, at THIS hour ? ROTFLOL

174 posted on 12/15/2001 2:25:51 AM PST by nopardons
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To: Dr. Octagon
I believe that any problem that requires a complex solution has not been sufficiently reduced. I would attack the problem before counseling is needed. I would attack the problem with education and a couple of simple Memes.
175 posted on 12/15/2001 2:29:14 AM PST by pcl
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To: wwjdn
bimp
176 posted on 12/15/2001 2:32:22 AM PST by Khepera
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To: pcl
How educated: Just from parents? With a focus on clear expectations? I feel that expectations are a key to counseling...else each goes in with a different set, with the sets often contra-dicting. What would you have communicated? I mean "have" as prescriptive, rather than past tense.
177 posted on 12/15/2001 2:37:52 AM PST by Dr. Octagon
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To: Khepera
Hello, welcome. The causes of divorce are multi-facted; what say you insofar as the most predominant, systemically and relationally?
178 posted on 12/15/2001 2:40:10 AM PST by Dr. Octagon
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To: Khepera
I checked out the Democratic Underground web site that so many people here have been advertising. I noticed that is a prominate liberal poster there with the Khepera handle. Are you leading a double life? Do you have mirror twin?
179 posted on 12/15/2001 2:40:19 AM PST by pcl
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To: pcl
Doppelganger?
180 posted on 12/15/2001 2:42:41 AM PST by Dr. Octagon
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