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After-Action Report: IAC Meeting, Manhattan
Self | 12/14/01 | hellinahandcart

Posted on 12/14/2001 7:39:08 AM PST by hellinahandcart

Last week we were notified of an IAC event right here in town, featuring Ramsey Clark and the usual suspects. This is a group I had never heard of before last year; but, after catching their post 9/11 act on C-Span (that rather large anti-war, bash-America and "Free Mumia" fest in DC), and countering their much-smaller Oct 7 rally in Union square, I definitely feel like I know them. And don't like them! So, some of us thought that crashing the meeting was definitely in order. I knew that Nitro and KLT had made already plans to meet in the neighborhood, and fortunately I was able to join them.

We met up at around 5:30 for a strategy session. After a few adult beverages, we managed to reach consensus--there would be no "plan". We would simply show up, pay our fee, and rely on what was said to motivate one of us to speak up.

We were winging it, in other words. There was no "first I'll say this, and then *you* jump up and say that" under discussion. We didn't rehearse. About the only advance preparation came from Nitro, who had purchased an American flag for the occasion in case he felt the need to unfurl it at the meeting. So we left the bar and , with no real plan of action, walked to the Community Church of New York on 35th St.

The meeting was in the basement, and I am sad to report that , by the time we got there, it was standing room only. I estimate there were about 300 people there. We were first asked "were we on their mailing list", which I hadn't anticipated; I took it to be a sort of "screening" question, and in retrospect perhaps we should have said yes, but I think they were already well aware that we didn't really belong there. Nitro was wearing a Navy cap, KLT was wearing a faux fur, and I has a cross around my neck that I forgot to tuck under my shirt. So much for infiltrating; we stood out like sore thumbs. We paid our donation and walked in, past a long table of pamphlets and flyers, and books by and about Mumia Abul-Jamal. KLT took a chair in the last row, Nitro and I ended up in the very back, in a doorway to the coatroom/hallway/exit.

It was quite crowded. I observed that most people there were (a) white and (b)either under 30 or over 60.

One of the older women at the book table knocked over a stack of fliers, I picked them up and handed them to her, and she thanked me. I had one more encounter with this woman before the evening was over. And it was over sooner than I ever would have guessed.

A man I believe I had seen speaking at the DC protest took the microphone up front. It was the usual stuff you hear at these things--the bombing is hurting people, the Bush administration's "war on terrorism" has institutionalized racial profiling and unjust imprisonment here in the U.S., yada yada. Wish I'd brought a tape recorder, so I could transcribe his exact words. But I do remember him saying that "we should take George Bush at his word" when he says he intends to pursue and uproot terrorists organizations wherever they exist in the world--oddly, he didn't seem to think that was a GOOD thing at all. He thought it was downright sinister. He said, "We must stand in solidarity with our brothers and sisters in Afghanistan, in Iraq, in Somalia, Colombia, Vieques, and Korea--"

Nitro piped up with "You mean North Korea". Heads turned. Dirty looks in our direction.

The speaker continued with "George Bush could possibly invade all these countries".

Nitro said "Sounds good to me" and began clapping.

The next sequence of events took place over a period of about fifteen seconds. Nitro was politely asked to leave by a soft-spoken young man, while the other men standing at the back began moving in his direction. At that point Nitro took his new flag out of his jacket and began ripping the plastic off of it (note to anyone who does this in the future, take the plastic off beforehand, it'll save time). The sight of the Stars & Stripes had a remarkable effect on those present. No sooner did he have it unfurled than at least four people tried to tear it way from him, while several others were physically propelling him into the back hallway. That flag was pulled in so many directions I was sure they were trying to rip it--but it was nylon, and defeated their efforts. They finally got it out of his hands after shoving him into the coatrack, and as I was following, the whole gaggle shoved him in my direction and I ended up being briefly pinned against the other wall. They kept pushing him toward the stairs--I heard Nitro say "I had a HAT when I came in here, guys" and realized that his cap must have been knocked off, but I wasn't about to look for it then. I didn't want to take my eyes off the people who were shoving him up the stairs and out the door.

As I was on my way to the exit, the woman who had knocked over the flyers stopped me and handed me the flag, which she had folded up. I thought that was nice of her.

KLT had been left behind in the auditorium, and we had to wait until she came out to find out what happened while we were being "escorted" out. Apparently we stood out more than even I realized, because, according to KLT, the speaker at the microphone said "There's one more" and everyone pointed to her. I thought that was odd, as this guy certainly didn't see her come in, but the people working the desk had probably passed the word along that we looked like trouble.

So KLT said "You people should be ashamed of yourselves; have you been to Ground Zero?" She was told "Your friends are waiting for you outside--get out and don't come back." She said "I wouldn't come back here, you people are *crazy*", and left. Someone handed Nitro's cap to her on her way out.

And that, as they say, was that.


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To: hellinahandcart

You all deserve a standing ovation for courage under fire!

I learned something today, besides the fact that hellinahandcart is a most talented artist:

Garlic is used to ward off vampires
A cross to ward off the devil
Our Stars & Stripes to ward off commie leftist traitors.

61 posted on 12/15/2001 5:59:40 AM PST by StarFan
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To: hellinahandcart
Well, i wouldn't be. So give me particulars about when/where they meet.
62 posted on 12/15/2001 6:00:39 AM PST by sauropod
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To: KLT, nitro
Meant to include you two brave souls in post #61.
63 posted on 12/15/2001 6:01:12 AM PST by StarFan
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To: KLT
One day, i wanna meet you...

From a proud member of the DC Chapter.

'Pod.

64 posted on 12/15/2001 6:02:29 AM PST by sauropod
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To: hellinahandcart
Suggestion: It sounds like you guys were essentially heckling the speaker. Most events such as this conclude with a Q&A session. At that point the speaker's made his points and you can legitmately expect the speaker to have to answer a polite questioning of the views presented.

I think you guys should have waited out the speech then pounced. FReepers at many events including those secured by the secret service are given prime spots because we are known for our law-abiding and courteous protest methods. See DC Chapter FReep Rules for reference. They make sense.

Having said that you folks showed great bravery going into a basement full of Rats!

65 posted on 12/15/2001 6:11:59 AM PST by Tunehead54
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To: Dan from Michigan; VietVet; Jimmy Valentine's brother; Landru; NYC GOP Chick; Nitro; KLT
We need to get a higher turn out than this before we physically take on these @#$%^&*'s. Three against 300 is poor odds.

Now, now. We were not there to physically take on the @#$%^&*'s, so three was plenty (especially since Nitro is such a big strong tall fellow). We were there to give them a little stomach acid, that's all. To let them know that some people are catching on to them. We knew we were going to get thrown out eventually. That's also why I don't consider the shoving to be charge-worthy (when you try to provoke a reaction, and you get one, well...).

Now, if we'd had a few more people, we could have done a two-stage disruption and still left one person in there to record the whole presentation. But the second disruption might have escalated the mood in a bad direction. These people are zealots even if they're not prime physical specimens.

OTOH, let us acknowlege that at least *some* of the people there were honorable opponents. Afterall, they did return the flag and the hat.

You got the hat and our flag back. There's hope for a couple of people that were in there.

I may get flamed for this but I think many people in there are gentle, well-meaning souls who really believe and practice the "brotherhood" aspects of their movement. Others are disaffected freaks who've finally found a place to "belong". That's powerful psychological stuff. They are seriously deluded, however, and blind to what the world would really be like if they finally got what they're after. And they've all been misled by conscious manipulators at the core of this group.

But yes, I think they also thought giving us our stuff back was the right thing to do.

Otherwise you were in the middle of a bunch of commies.

We knew that. :P

You're crazy!

Yeah, I know. mr. hellinahandcart was NOT a happy camper when he found out what I was doing on Thursday night. (sigh)

66 posted on 12/15/2001 6:13:26 AM PST by hellinahandcart
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To: hellinahandcart
So, Mr. hellinahandcart was not a happy camper, but let me tell you darlin, we were great! Got home from AC around 6PM Friday, and I was beat...

Yes, we must do it again sometime, real soon, Tis the Season to be Jolly!

67 posted on 12/15/2001 6:22:46 AM PST by KLT
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To: sauropod; kristinn; leadpenny; klt
Agree. Will see you tonight? We need to plan.

Dave - agree we need to plan - unfortunetly I have to coach 8-9 year old Basketball this afternoon and then go to a work function (I missed last year's Christmass party because I stayed too long at "Cheney's House";-) - Please send my regards to the D.C. Chapter - we did "good" this year and everyone feels like an extended family to me. - One of the other Daves in our bunch (Leadpenny too).

68 posted on 12/15/2001 6:27:37 AM PST by VaMarVet
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To: Tunehead54
Understand something Tunehead, truth be told we were quietly correcting the speaker's outrageous lies and reversal of facts....none of us, could have sat through what these people said about Dubya...None of us....such dishonesty and disrespect deserved to be heard...and we were not loud....Where was our Freedom Of Speech Rights?
69 posted on 12/15/2001 6:45:46 AM PST by KLT
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To: sauropod
One day, i wanna meet you... From a proud member of the DC Chapter.

Would love to meet you sauropod......We would bring the libs to their knees...I hope you'll be there in Feb....come on down.

Now, we Freepers know how to PAAARRRRTTTYYYYY! Of course, we'd have to have a giant celebration...O'Luney is the place!

70 posted on 12/15/2001 6:54:21 AM PST by KLT
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To: Jimmy Valentine's brother
You got the hat and our flag back. There's hope for a couple of people that were in there. Otherwise you were in the middle of a bunch of commies. You're crazy!

Hey Jimmy, these wackos couldn't have hurt us, Thank Goodness, Nitro had the good sense to keep his composure...

Hey, you coming on up here so we can do a Big Freep, out here in the Socialist Republic of NY? We've got to make an impression!

As some great musician wrote,"I may be crazy, but man, atleast I'm cool, everybody knows I ain't nobody's fool." Johnny Winter, one of my favorites!

71 posted on 12/15/2001 7:07:47 AM PST by KLT
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To: Dave Dilegge
Dave - agree we need to plan - unfortunetly I have to coach 8-9 year old Basketball this afternoon and then go to a work function (I missed last year's Christmass party because I stayed too long at "Cheney's House";-) - Please send my regards to the D.C. Chapter - we did "good" this year and everyone feels like an extended family to me. - One of the other Daves in our bunch (Leadpenny too).

Dave, you can count on me, to organize what I can in February up here, but getting some people to move, is easier said then done...NY Freepers need to get up and FREEP!

72 posted on 12/15/2001 7:10:38 AM PST by KLT
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To: Dave Dilegge;RaceBannon;cacique;starfan;undergroundwarrior;lisafab
Let's Make This A Memorable Occassion BUMP!
73 posted on 12/15/2001 7:12:30 AM PST by KLT
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To: Mudboy Slim
Damned Yankees Stole Giambi from us...I am officially in mourning and shall not FReep again...until later.

Giambi even shaved his goatee...what a woooossie SELL-OUT!!

Yeah, NY deserves the PUNK...MUD

He'll be a great Yank, MUD......and don't be in mourning, my good friend, Atlanta is a wonderful team!

FreeGards Here In NY, Fighting Off The Commie Wackos,

Karen

74 posted on 12/15/2001 7:17:57 AM PST by KLT
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To: Nitro
Hung over, but happy Nitro....We must do this again in February....Sounds like the DC chapter is gonna join us....Speaking of a great Freep, it will be history in the making!
75 posted on 12/15/2001 7:20:12 AM PST by KLT
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To: KLT
Thanks for clarifying - I had the impression you were loud enough to interrupt the speaker. My apologies.
76 posted on 12/15/2001 7:46:09 AM PST by Tunehead54
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To: Tunehead54
Thanks for clarifying - I had the impression you were loud enough to interrupt the speaker. My apologies.

Believe me, Tunehead, you would have hit the ceiling if you heard the wrong stuff they put out as facts....Apologies accepted...

Karen

77 posted on 12/15/2001 10:46:55 AM PST by KLT
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To: JulieRNR21
Thanks Julie...it was a trip! Thank God, my hangover is better...LOL
78 posted on 12/15/2001 10:58:24 AM PST by KLT
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To: Dan from Michigan
Raising my bottle to you from here in Michigan. It's a good thing I wasn't there....I probably would have decked or kicked in the nuts whoever laid a hand on me

You should have seen it Dan, they shuffled and surrounded Nitro....it was just unbelievable! You would have have decked them for sure! You should have seen these people...what a bunch of sadsacks!

79 posted on 12/15/2001 11:05:47 AM PST by KLT
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To: hellinahandcart; nitro; KLT
Great Job, Guys!
80 posted on 12/15/2001 11:40:42 AM PST by Oschisms
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