[11th Earl of Mar]

Same on us.

[wideawake]

Hey Karl: there's a good way for the President to make Christians stay away in 2004 - keep appointing sodomites to high office.

[JohnGalt]

Politically unreliable.

[afuturegovernor]

I hope there regreting not voting for President Bush today.

(It was my first vote for President.)

[truthandlife]

Very interesting and if Bush would have run on his beliefs instead of what his political consultants were telling him then he would have won the election in a landslide thanks to evangelical Christians.

[Gordian Blade]

I believe a big part of it was the undisclosed past drunk driving problem that came to light late in the campaign. People on our side tend to demand our candidates be pure as newfallen snow.

[Romulus]

Well, Karl...one of us must be wrong. Who do you suppose it is?

[lormand]

It seems that they understand the problem, but don't know the solution.

For over half a year, Republicans controlled both Houses and the White House, yet Partial Birth Abortion is still being committed on our children. When are they going to pursue the abolition of it? I see absolutely NO movement regarding abortion from the White House or Congressional Republicans.

What a shame!

[travelin_man]

bump for later

[Dog Gone]

It's too bad that the Democrats openly campaign in churches and bus their folks to the polls, while our folks bitch and sit on their hands.

Four million voters, who are in essence saying that it makes no difference to them whether Gore or Bush won, is an enormous number.

[hopespringseternal]

Rove added: "But we may also be returning to the point in America where fundamentalists and evangelicals remain true to their beliefs and think politics is corrupt and, therefore, they shouldn't participate."

Going to the polls without any delusions is one of the most disheartening things a person can do.

Check out a recent Walter Williams article detailing the billions in pork spending that was passed "in the interest of national security."

You quickly come to realize that the "good guys" are only "good" because the bad guys are so abysmally bad.

In absolute moral terms, I wouldn't pee on most republicans if he was on fire. They are detestable parasites.

Their only good point is that republicans know that if they over do it, they kill the host and the party ends for everyone.

The democrats are so much worse because they hate their host and try to kill it, or at least their avarice is so great that it looks like murderous intent.

Republicans are like corrupt cops, democrats are violent home invaders.

[Ff--150]

Those Christians, they think they can pray a president in, but then forget to vote for whom they prayed for!???

[Clemenza]

A lot of the old farts refused to vote for Buch because of the "drunk driving" incident. John Zogby stated as much.

Bush needs to campaign like hell for his base voters in the South and West. If his popularity remains high, he will pick up Pennsylvania, Michigan, Illinois, with Florida being safe.

[RooRoobird14]

I am absolutely a pro-life "conservative a Christian." However, I was and am a BROKEN GLASS REPUBLICAN. Nothing short of sudden death or alien abduction would have kept me from voting for George Bush and AGAINST Al Gore last year--NOTHING!!! Any Christian staying home on any election day "in protest" in effect helps put more amoral-abortion-loving-leftist-socialists Godless Democrats in office. It's a STUPID, STUPID self defeating strategy of "win the battle, lose the war."

I don't agree with all of President Bush's policies, and I wish he WAS stronger in his pro-life stance. HOWEVER, I think he's a WONDERFUL president and I stand behind him 100%. I also thank God every day that lying, gutless woosy--man Al Gore is not Commander-In-Chief.

[Keith]

so true Karl, always amazes me how these idiots think they are doing the right thing by letting the Democraps take over...yea...that will really "teach" us. The Dems are much wiser at realizing that change usually has to come incrementally, not the "bull in a china shop" method.

Now watch me get flamed...proof of what I'm saying.

[Tall_Texan]

And imagine how many evangelicals would have been even less motivated had McInsane not forced Dubya to defend Christians in the primaries. If McInsane hadn't declared a fatwa against the religious right (with shouts of "amen" and "hallelujah" from the fawning press), Bush might have never reached out to Christians at all. Before this, he was all gushy about wanting to be friends with the Democrats, "compassionate conservative" and all that.

A good many fundamentalists probably decided, as I did, that regardless of Bush's flaws, the Clinton-Gore Crime Syndicate was a far worse option that had to be stopped at all cost.

[Revolting cat!]

We can exchange insults all day long and persist in our illusions that all is well with our political party. In the meantime, there are four million voters (only 4 mill?) who think that all politics is corrupt and it doesn't make any difference who's in office. That number will increase, despite war time popularity surges for the Pubbies. The scandalous corruption of the US Congress continues unabated.

[IM2Phat4U]

Bush needs to reward his friends, and DEFUND his enemies by kicking them off of welfare (e.g. Planned Parenthood, PBS.)

Planned Parenthood spent millions trying to defeat Bush and will spend millions more trying to defeat him in 2004. Yet, the GOP refuses to strip Planned Parenthood of the $66 million it gets from our federal tax dollars. Meanwhile, Planned Parenthood uses these tax dollars to sue pro-lifers, peddle abortions to minors and, indirectly, campaign against Republicans.

Bush is never going to win over the pro-aborts, so he may as well take steps to completely crush them by ceasing to subsidize them with our money.

Could you imagine how quickly Clinton would have cut off funds to a pro-life group receiving $66 million in federal funds?

Pro-Life Policies Quashed (How RINO Ralph Regula Killed Effort to Defund Planned Parenhood)

[Thane_Banquo]

The likes of Falwell and Robertson are never happy about anything. They always find something to be mad about, and so they convinced themselves to be mad enough at Bush to not go to the polls.

[toenail]

Dear Karl,

When those fundamentalist Christians see the evil things your centralized education President is increasing, do you think they'll be more inclined to vote for him next time around?

When he took $250,000,000 of tax money (some from those very fundamentalist Christians who see it as evil) to reward biotech companies who work in embryonic stem cell research, do you think that those very same fundamentalist Christians are going to show up at the polls to say, "Give them more of my family's money?"

When Bush is refusing to pursue action against the treason by the former administration, do you expect fundamentalist Christians to forget that there are sins of ommission, as well as sins of commission?

Your best hope to get fundamentalist Christians to the polls next time, Karl, is to have Alan Keyes run on the Constitution Party ticket. But that's not what you had in mind, is it?

[Ditto]

Rove added: "But we may also be returning to the point in America where fundamentalists and evangelicals remain true to their beliefs and think politics is corrupt and, therefore, they shouldn't participate."

Hmmmmm? The exact same logic a lot of people use to stay away from religion. With corrupt people like Jim Baaker and Jimmy Schweiker, they should they participate.

Dumb logic, even dumber people. If you don't play, you have no say.