U.S. RELEASES VIDEOTAPE OF OSAMA BIN LADEN **Full Text**

US Department of Defense ^ | 12-13-01

[Oldeconomybuyer]

The U. S. government released today a copy of a videotape of Osama bin Laden obtained by U.S. forces in Jalalabad, Afghanistan in late November.

The video was filmed by unknown persons.

"There was no doubt of bin Laden's responsibility for the September 11 attacks before the tape was discovered," said Secretary of Defense Donald H. Rumsfeld.

The release of the tape was made after balancing the concerns about any additional pain that could be caused by its release against the value of having the world fully appreciate what we are up against in the war against terrorism.

The tape was released with an English translation and English subtitling, prepared independently by George Michael, translator, Diplomatic Language Services; and Dr. Kassem M. Wahba, Arabic language program coordinator, School of Advanced International Studies, Johns Hopkins University. They collaborated on their translation and compared it with translations done by the U.S. government for consistency. There were no inconsistencies in the translations.

The English translation is on the Web at http://www.defenselink.mil/news/Dec2001/d20011213ubl.pdf

[MrBambaLaMamba]

Thank you for today's entertainment, terrorist apologist.
It's so easy to get you idiots going.
Drool on fool, keep ridin' that ole shotgun.

[veronica]

Terrorist apologist.

Bump.

'You are either with us...or with the terrorists.' GW Bush.

[Eaker]

Bump for "at home" read.

Eaker

[Quester]

The history of the world is the history of religious idiots doing this back and forth to each other. If these lunatics had nuclear weapons, they would destroy the world... for God.

... or ... for their atheistic ideology (i.e. the U.S.S.R.)

... "We will bury you." Nikita Khrushchev - Nov. 17, 1956

[Ridin' Shotgun]

keep ridin' that ole shotgun. ...cachelot? Is that you? Or did you get that out of you his glossery of preferred personal attacks?

[Fred Mertz]

UBL: (... Inaudible...) we calculated in advance the number of casualties from the enemy, who would be killed based on the position of the tower. We calculated that the floors that would be hit would be three or four floors. I was the most optimistic of them all. (... Inaudible...) due to my experience in this field,[destroying buildings??] I was thinking that the fire from the gas in the plane would melt the iron structure of the building and collapse the area where the plane hit and all the floors above it only. This is all that we had hoped for.

Smoking gun!

[Ridin' Shotgun]

Wasn't that the mentality of the time just before Jesus was hung on a cross? Oh, but He was just another self-loathing Jew, wasn't he? Deserved to die for his 'crimes', right?

[Oldeconomybuyer]

but was there a purpose in making it - and leaving it behind?

I've heard/read that OBL often has video/photo men that travel with him - an ego thing I guess. The other guy is alleged to be a Saudi that traveled to Afghanistan (he spoke about his trek on the video) and must have had some clout to get a meeting with OBL his bad self.

The interesting thing to me is that the Saudi was described on one of the cable TV networks as a "Wahhabi". This is the radical strain of Islam with roots in Saudi Arabia that bred OBL and his jihadi warriors.

Islam is not OBL's base, Wahhabism is.

[Ridin' Shotgun]

Decent people, anyway.

And of course Veronica gets to define 'decent', which apparently now means killing Muslims where ever you find them.

[LarryLied]

Sorry, I guess you missed my point. The point was that most people do not hold an entire religion responsible for the statements and actions of it's extremists.

No. I understood your point. And I am sick to death about hearing of "extremists." Clinton speak.

[Stone Mountain]

The point was that most people do not hold an entire religion responsible for the statements and actions of it's extremists.

Could you explain who "most people" are? I think if you read the transcripts it was stated that there where phone calls of congratulation's!!!

There are more out there. The size of the "extremists" seem to be very large...

When I say "most people," I'm refering to people like you and me. Ok, maybe, people like me. : ) I'm still going to go out on a limb and assert that most people (or at least most sane people) don't hold an entire religion responsible for it's extremists.

As for the telephone calls of congratulations, of course there were more people than the people in the room that supported the attacks. Are we to impugn the whole religion of 1 billion or so adherents because some of them made these calls? My original post was in response to a poster who said that this tape will basically discredit the Islamic religion, and I just said I don't see how.

[Stone Mountain]

I am sick to death about hearing of "extremists." Clinton speak.

Is it your position that OBL and the hijackers are not extremists?

[fivecatsandadog]

Thanks. Looks like I have some reading to do.

[Freedom of Speech Wins]

Is it camera angles or does Ossama's nose look smaller?

[Dr.Deth]

Apparently you haven't seen the defiled and mutilated corpses that have been strewn all over the Afghan countryside by our 'allies' in this war.

Please please please give us links if you're going to tease us like that. Dead defiled mutilated Taliban pics make a great Wallpaper for Win2K!

And after that, please please please go slap yourself silly, stinkin' hippie.

[Illbay]

Hey, that kind of "spin's" too obvious for a sharpie like you, though, isn't it?

Oh, or is it just that your mind is made up, and no facts are going to rock your boat while you're in charge?

FWIW, I was simply explaining something that had been explained by Ashcroft months ago. And HIS explanation wasn't even in response to a nudnik comment like yours.

[MrBambaLaMamba]

Glossary of preferred personal attacks? You're a commedian too, how this?

Ridin' Shotgun
Apologist for terrorism
Terrorist apologist
salinist
socialist
fool

Go home to your cave and cry to osama that those bad infidels have spoiled your party.
Are you lonely now that they've taken Lil' Abdul away?

Whoa! Watch out for those Daisy Cutters!

[Abn1508]

Yep. Sure have. I feel sorry for them, but realize that it's necessary to stop state sponsored terrorism; we need states that won't and have to wipe out governments who do.

What I don't do is get together with my buddies and say "Wow! Look at that raghead pulling that Taliban bastard's teeth out! Isn't that a hoot?? I love it!"

If you can't understand the difference, I pity you.

[LiberalBassTurds]

Thanks for the post and the links. I really get a good laugh at all the conspiracy/doctored tape theorists stamping their collective feet today. Arguing with them is pointless. They wouldn't believe the tape's veracity if old OBL himself flew his bomb laden flying carpet through their living room windows. Good job DOD and CIA, you nailed him. As OBL prepares for his visit to Hell, and his Jihad is methodically dismantled, we get stronger and the World gets safer. The USA, as always, does the right thing.

[LiberalBassTurds]

Is it camera angles or does Ossama's nose look smaller?

It's a technical thing, known as the "Reverse Pinnochio Effect." When he tells the truth his nose actually shrinks. :-)