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Pipe Dreams: The origin of the "bombing Afghanistan for oil pipelines" theory (Lefties Proved Liars)
Slate ^ | December 6, 2001 | Seth Stevenson

Posted on 12/10/2001 9:04:18 AM PST by Timesink

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1 posted on 12/10/2001 9:04:18 AM PST by Timesink
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To: Hamiltonian; amom
FYI
2 posted on 12/10/2001 9:07:30 AM PST by KC Burke
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To: Timesink
Excellent article.
3 posted on 12/10/2001 9:18:58 AM PST by beekeeper
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To: Timesink
The DUh's need to read this!
4 posted on 12/10/2001 9:20:39 AM PST by smokinleroy
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To: Timesink
Terrorists headquartered in Afghanistan attacked America's financial and military centers, killing 4,000 people, and then took credit for it. Nope—must be the pipeline.

It seems that with the anti-capitalists, it is ALWAYS about the oil. The notion that Bush and Cheney woke up one morning and said, "Since we're so intimately tied to the oil industry, we're going to go out and bomb Afghanistan" is ludicrous. I'm waiting for some conspiracy nuts to claim that our government planned and executed the 9/11 attacks just so Bush and Cheney could go to war with Afghanistan to help out their oil buddies; or have they already claimed that?

5 posted on 12/10/2001 9:22:23 AM PST by SuziQ
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To: SuziQ
I know some people like that.
6 posted on 12/10/2001 9:32:10 AM PST by weikel
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To: Timesink
Why does the bombing-for-pipelines theory hold such appeal?

Because there was strong Unocal influence (via their ties with Occidental Petroleum) on the previous administration.

7 posted on 12/10/2001 9:45:20 AM PST by denydenydeny
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To: SuziQ
They allready have
8 posted on 12/10/2001 9:46:21 AM PST by CyberSpartacus
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To: Timesink
It's) Official White House Press Release on the Caspian Sea Pipeline.


It's been six months since the US Government told India there would be an invasion of Afghanistan in October,
three years since Congress discussed removing the government of Afghanistan to make way for an oil pipeline,
five months since BBC heard about the planned invasion of Afghanistan,
ten months since Jane's Defense got word of the planned invasion of Afghanistan,
and of course, only two months since the attacks on the World Trade Towers that got the American people angered into support of the war that everybody on the planet BUT Americans had been told was on the way.

9 posted on 12/10/2001 9:46:28 AM PST by It'salmosttolate
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To: Timesink
Bush and Cheney do have ties to big oil

Everybody has a tie to something. Clinton - Hookers, Cigar Makers, Attorneys and Interns. Hillary - Black Panthers and Black Pantsuits. Gore - Tobacco, Slumlord, Mineral Mining.

10 posted on 12/10/2001 9:46:49 AM PST by NC Conservative
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To: Timesink
I had read that the Afgan pipeline was one of many different ones being considered, and that it wasn't even the favorite one...
11 posted on 12/10/2001 9:47:27 AM PST by Paradox
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To: It'salmosttolate
It's) Official White House Press Release on the Caspian Sea Pipeline.

...Nevermind the fact that the Caspian Sea pipeline goes nowhere NEAR Afghanistan... or have certain conspiracists STILL not bothered to check that on the map...?

Loosen your tinfoil beanie. It'll give your brain more circulation.

;) ttt

12 posted on 12/10/2001 9:56:20 AM PST by detsaoT
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13 posted on 12/10/2001 10:01:47 AM PST by It'salmosttolate
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To: SuziQ
I'm waiting for some conspiracy nuts to claim that our government planned and executed the 9/11 attacks just so Bush and Cheney could go to war with Afghanistan to help out their oil buddies; or have they already claimed that?

Some of those conspiracy nuts have already posted their blood-for-oil paranoias on this very site.
Sshhhh: even on this very thread.

14 posted on 12/10/2001 10:04:24 AM PST by sanchmo
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To: Timesink; OLDWORD
Phil,

Here's another candidate for the "American Press on Parade" segment on the Show. I'm driving to Washington on Wednesday, so I'll flag a maximum number of items for your attention before I leave.

It is tedious but productive work to trace a story back to its origins. The value of it is the exposure of which "reporters" and which "news" organizations will search far and wide for a lie with which to attack the truth. The chain of use of this "oil pipeline" story includes Pravda as a sidelight, and the Village Voice as a prime mover. The central but unstated premise is the standard line of the socialists and communists -- America must have greedy, capitalistic reasons for all major actions, including this war.

We have fought one phony war in our history. Once the wreckage of the USS Maine was brought up a year or so ago, scientific evaluation of the explosion that sank her was equally or more consistent with a coal dust explosion inside the ship as with a bomb planted on her hull. Yet at the time the Heast newspaper chain claimed the Maine was bombed by the Spaniards, and single-handedly drove us into the Spanish-American War.

If you views the military history of the United States honestly, you DO find a number of deadly warts. The history of this pipeline story, however, demonstrates that the left-wing media insist on finding warts in EVERY military action by the United States.

Every American who honestly considers his / her reaction to their viewing of the World Trade Centers attack knows why this nation has gone to war. The bottom feeders in this chain of repetition of the "pipeline reason" simply cannot tolerate the truth, so they invent and propgate a lie. It's as simple as that.

Congressman Billybob

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15 posted on 12/10/2001 10:05:37 AM PST by Congressman Billybob
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To: Timesink
"Nearly all sites pushing the newer theory point to two pieces of evidence: 1) This U.S. Department of Energy information page on Afghanistan, updated September 2001, which espouses the pipeline idea but says Afghanistan is too chaotic for it to work. 2) This 1998 testimony by a Unocal vice president to the House Committee on International Relations, in which he states that a pipeline will never be built without a stable Afghan government in place."

"(Lefties Proved Liars)"
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TS, I'd have to say, "Not yet they ain't." Exactly what is the objective, of the "world alliance", for the near future government in Afghanastan to be? Maybe "stable"? Peace and love, George.

16 posted on 12/10/2001 10:06:18 AM PST by George Frm Br00klyn Park
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To: It'salmosttolate
...Yeah, so? You _will_ notice that the pipeline you are pointing to so proudly is only PROPOSED, which implies that it is not either built or even started yet.

I'd also venture to say that this particular branch of the pipeline would not be built for a LONG time, if ever.

Sorry, bud, but neither Big Oil, nor the Build-a-burgers, nor Sven Svenson from St. Olaf run the world.

:) ttt

17 posted on 12/10/2001 10:06:53 AM PST by detsaoT
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To: It'salmosttolate
You forgot to post the version of that map that details how the 2 Afghan pipelines were proposed by Pakistan.
Ooops.
18 posted on 12/10/2001 10:08:46 AM PST by sanchmo
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To: Timesink
I call this the "Oil Is The Only Reason We Go To War Anymore" theory. You heard it during the Gulf War. You even heard it during the Kosovo campaign: supposedly someone wanted to build a pipeline through Kosovo. Now it's Afghanistan. Wonder what they'll say if we have to take military action in Somalia?
19 posted on 12/10/2001 10:11:14 AM PST by Map Kernow
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To: detsaoT
Check out the source of the map.

I gotta get me a web site too!

20 posted on 12/10/2001 10:15:49 AM PST by Hoplite
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