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I'm still hoping that it there and that it is man made. But.....?
1 posted on 12/10/2001 6:33:18 AM PST by blam
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FYI.
2 posted on 12/10/2001 6:34:52 AM PST by blam
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The "too deep to be man-made" comment just won't wash. If the "city" was on an island or peninsula which was dropped into the ocean by a cataclysm, then how deep it is is utterly irrelevant. It's like saying a ship at the bottom of the ocean cannot be man-made, because no one can build a ship at that depth.

On the other hand, I am deeply suspicious of the Cuban scientists involved in this project. "Science" in that nation is at the service of the state. The answers must be politically acceptable to the communist government. Only because there is no apparent "communist" angle to this discovery / announcement am I willing to consider that it might be possible.

The previous thread had an excellent link to a detailed article on the possibility of copper-mining on a large scale, similarity to the Eutruscan hieroglyphs, and possible evidence that this group of ancients were as good or better seafarers than the Phonicians (sp?). The upshot of the theory was that copper mined in the Americas might have been instrumental to the Bronze Age in Europe.

That sounds far-fetched. But the theory that chunks of the continents floated around the globe on techtonic plates was considered preposterous by main-stream scientists, until it was proven to be true.

The same goes for the theory that dinosaurs were driven to extinction by a giant asteroid strike. Only the identification of iridium at sites all around the globe in formations dating to about 65 million years ago, proved out that "wild and implausible" theory.

I applaud the advance of unusual scientific theories, which might eventually be proven true. That does NOT apply to any results announced by any group whose name includes the phrase, "Concerned Scientists for [Whatever]." The translation of that phrase is, "We have degrees. We wear white lab coats, We are about to lie to you while giving the illustion of using the scientific methodology."

For those who use it honestly, and follow wherever it might lead, the scientific method is a powerful tool. For those who use it to disguise their lies, Mark Twain had it right. "There are lies, damned lies, and statistics."

On my national radio show on Firday morning, I did almost the whole 30 minutes on the ramifications of this discovery, if it turns out to be true. The host and I had a great time with the subject. I hope the audience wasn't bored to tears.

Congressman Billybob

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3 posted on 12/10/2001 8:54:34 AM PST by Congressman Billybob
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To: blam
The "too deep to be man-made" comment just won't wash. If the "city" was on an island or peninsula which was dropped into the ocean by a cataclysm, then how deep it is is utterly irrelevant. It's like saying a ship at the bottom of the ocean cannot be man-made, because no one can build a ship at that depth.

On the other hand, I am deeply suspicious of the Cuban scientists involved in this project. "Science" in that nation is at the service of the state. The answers must be politically acceptable to the communist government. Only because there is no apparent "communist" angle to this discovery / announcement am I willing to consider that it might be possible.

The previous thread had an excellent link to a detailed article on the possibility of copper-mining on a large scale, similarity to the Eutruscan hieroglyphs, and possible evidence that this group of ancients were as good or better seafarers than the Phonicians (sp?). The upshot of the theory was that copper mined in the Americas might have been instrumental to the Bronze Age in Europe.

That sounds far-fetched. But the theory that chunks of the continents floated around the globe on techtonic plates was considered preposterous by main-stream scientists, until it was proven to be true.

The same goes for the theory that dinosaurs were driven to extinction by a giant asteroid strike. Only the identification of iridium at sites all around the globe in formations dating to about 65 million years ago, proved out that "wild and implausible" theory.

I applaud the advance of unusual scientific theories, which might eventually be proven true. That does NOT apply to any results announced by any group whose name includes the phrase, "Concerned Scientists for [Whatever]." The translation of that phrase is, "We have degrees. We wear white lab coats, We are about to lie to you while giving the illustion of using the scientific methodology."

For those who use it honestly, and follow wherever it might lead, the scientific method is a powerful tool. For those who use it to disguise their lies, Mark Twain had it right. "There are lies, damned lies, and statistics."

On my national radio show on Firday morning, I did almost the whole 30 minutes on the ramifications of this discovery, if it turns out to be true. The host and I had a great time with the subject. I hope the audience wasn't bored to tears.

Congressman Billybob

Click and bookmark for Billybob's daily, national comments, 7:30 a.m. EST.

4 posted on 12/10/2001 8:54:47 AM PST by Congressman Billybob
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To: blam
bump
5 posted on 12/10/2001 9:59:22 AM PST by Libertarianize the GOP
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To: blam
Good post, but I think it shows how the detrators know the facts much less than the explorers, and are making an assumption. Of course current knowledge says it's unlikely that it's man-made, any non-expert could say that. But the explorers aren't spending the serious cash needed to do what they're doing without some reason. What they've seen so far are inscriptions on these structural stones that back up their theory that it may be man-made.

Hopefully they'll get some video soon to make their case stronger.

7 posted on 12/10/2001 1:20:39 PM PST by spycatcher
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To: blam
Looks like the debunkers are at it again. Sunken City made by nature? HA! Not likely.
8 posted on 12/10/2001 1:26:09 PM PST by asneditor
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To: blam
It's very unlikely that the seabed would drop 650 metres in 6,000 years

Sure it's not an everyday occurrence. A big earthquake could do the job, and there wouldn't be many records of the incident.

10 posted on 12/10/2001 4:16:50 PM PST by RightWhale
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To: blam
Curious story. I remember hearing that, some years back, possible evidence of another "sunken city" was found in the Bahamas. Anyone know what became of those findings?
14 posted on 12/10/2001 5:50:27 PM PST by white rose
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