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Church ought not to oppose condoms (Whine and cheese alert)
Mpls (red)Star Tribune ^ | 12/9/01 | Joe Selvaggio

Posted on 12/09/2001 7:20:04 AM PST by Valin

Edited on 04/13/2004 3:36:03 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

On Dec. 4, the Star Tribune had an excellent editorial decrying the fact that AIDS-fighting condoms are being recycled because they are in short supply in African nations. The U.N. population fund estimates that $1 billion is needed and only $40 million gets funded. Millions of people are needlessly dying because of this shortage. The pope and bishops of the Roman Catholic Church should take a major share of responsibility for this loss of life.


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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: catholiclist
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To: nomasmojarras; Petronski
Im sorry, not feeling any pity yet for nomas.

Please allow me to define 'Many'

Being one of a large indefinite number; numerous: many a child; many another day. Amounting to or consisting of a large indefinite number: many friends.

Her statement falls within the bounds in which the term 'many' is valid.

121 posted on 12/09/2001 9:30:20 PM PST by klee
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To: nomasmojarras
Oh great. Now that stupid song is stuck in my head again. Everybody sing...
125 posted on 12/09/2001 9:51:45 PM PST by falfa
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To: Valin
As a practicing Catholic for 64 years with 24 years of Catholic education (eight of which were studying Catholic philosophy and theology), I feel qualified to speak out.

So, as long as you've been Catholic long enough, you have the moral authority to teach that the Church is wrong? What about me? I'm only 23--I feel disenfranchised. I want to be a dissident too!

126 posted on 12/09/2001 9:54:19 PM PST by jrherreid
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To: nomasmojarras
Bit o` slap an` tickle? Ow`s ya father? Nudge, nudge, wink, wink..... I DO know what you mean! :-)
127 posted on 12/09/2001 10:11:41 PM PST by Slapper
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To: Slapper
I DO know what you mean!

I DO know wot you mean!

128 posted on 12/09/2001 10:17:15 PM PST by Slapper
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To: nomasmojarras
Not exactly...If I write a book, I would put my name on it.

And what you do must be what God would do. Gotcha.

The bible was passed around word for word before it was written down. Have you ever played Telephone? Words get mixed up in the course of even a few minutes.

The parts containing the narrations of Christianity's main article of faith, the Resurrection, the thing Christianity stands or falls on, were recorded within the lifetimes of the people who witnessed it or their direct companions (and their enemies, who would surely use it against them if they could prove it anything less tham true). This sort of thing is most definitely not subject to the rules of the game 'Telephone', since these people didn't claim to see the thing for only a split second, which would be the only way it could be analagous to the game. "Words" do not "get mixed up" when you're claiming 500 people all at once saw Jesus rising from the dead; either those people made that claim or they didn't, and that claim is either true or it isn't.

I think the people in the Bible existed, and that the Bible teaches some good things, but since it was written, people interpret those words to mean whatever they want, as long as it suits THEIR gain.

People will always misuse 'good things'. And perhaps the proper, correct understanding of the Bible could still be used for some person's gain - but that doesn't mean the proper understanding doesn't exist and isn't out there. You seem to be rolling over mighty fast for the 'if everyone disagrees then it's useless and we can never know anything for sure' view of the world.

A lot of people say that "God told them something" (like murdering other people), so they do it. Should we record that in a supplement of the Bible as well?

No, because that'd contradict Biblical teachings.

129 posted on 12/09/2001 10:45:30 PM PST by MitchellC
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To: nomasmojarras
According to all religions, all OTHER religions will burn in hell, so that means we're all gonna burn?

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Only if all of them were true, which would be impossible.

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We all live under the same God...So we are all wrong.

Exactly how did you come to that conclusion? That if there's one God over all of us then all of us must be wrong?

130 posted on 12/09/2001 10:51:21 PM PST by MitchellC
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To: Proud2BAmerican
Unfortunately, yes I have.
131 posted on 12/10/2001 3:36:57 AM PST by wwjdn
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To: nomasmojarras
That was pretty funny! Respect the penguin!
132 posted on 12/10/2001 6:07:07 AM PST by GreatOne
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To: nomasmojarras
I personally dont think a real submissive woman exists. Heck, even in afghanistan the women had 'underground' beauty parlours, secret schools, English lessons, carrying books underneath their burqa's, wearing jewelry and makeup all of which are forbidden.

I think the trick is marrying a person with a like minded attitude, so that the chances of 'clashing' are reduced.

133 posted on 12/10/2001 9:19:34 AM PST by klee
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To: Valin
The fact that they already have AIDS and are screwing eachother out of wedlock doesn't come into it, right?
134 posted on 12/10/2001 6:35:21 PM PST by PoorMuttly
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To: Valin
Did I miss something here...is the pope supposed to pay for these condoms too?
135 posted on 12/10/2001 6:37:04 PM PST by PoorMuttly
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To: PoorMuttly
Well he IS rich, and as we all know the only reason there are poor people is because of rich people hording all the money under their mattresses.
136 posted on 12/10/2001 8:41:53 PM PST by Valin
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To: Valin
Obviously abstenence is out of the question for these people, who insist on having more children, mortally infected or not, leaving them to a life of suffering and starvation. How about vasectomies? A one-time expense, and especially handy for the self-control challenged. Then the people with the fatal disease can give it to their partners if they wish...but not to untold numbers of innocent human children. I bet there are many doctors who would volunteer their services to protect those poor, disrespected babies from ever being born to misery and death (for the sake of a good time for adults) in the first place.
137 posted on 12/10/2001 9:51:18 PM PST by PoorMuttly
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To: Valin
I have still not located the cheese in this article.
138 posted on 12/10/2001 9:53:01 PM PST by PoorMuttly
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To: wwjdn
I live by the Bible, do you?

Not really, no.

139 posted on 12/10/2001 9:55:20 PM PST by Doctor Doom
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To: Doctor Doom
I'll pray for yor soul.
140 posted on 12/11/2001 3:44:54 AM PST by wwjdn
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