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You have no right (rebuttal to editorial that laid claim to home school kids)
Raleigh News & Observer | December 6, 2001 | Tom Smedley

Posted on 12/06/2001 12:34:23 PM PST by TomSmedley

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To: BibChr
"...if The State wants kids, it had better d**mned well learn to make its own."

I think you might want to consider the horrifying corollaries of that sentiment, cloning being just one early step towards the totalitarian anschluss of child-rearing.

The State is a killing machine.

Do not throw your children into its furnace.

61 posted on 12/07/2001 8:27:41 AM PST by headsonpikes
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To: TomSmedley
The janissaries were single in their heyday. By the days of their decadence, they had become a hereditary caste. Part of this was because the Empire had lost their traditional recruiting grounds in the Balkans.

During theor glory days, they were the most efficient and feared body of troops in the world. A big part of this was because the European troops of the day were so undisciplined and ill-regulated. While Europe became more and more effective militarily, the Ottomans stagnated and eventually became extraordinarily decadent.

62 posted on 12/07/2001 1:44:00 PM PST by Restorer
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To: jimt
...these priceless resources...

That's the phrase I find obnoxious. The implication is clearly that the children are not free human beings, entrusted in the care of their parents, but state "resources" to be used for the benefit of the state.

Bump for that sentiment! I hate it when people talk about 'for the good of the children' or ask 'What about the children'? All it means is that they see children as objects rather than people. I'm only 18 and I vividly remember feeling that to many people I was more important as a figure in their cultural calculus than as an individual, and I was homeschooled at that! I cannot imagine putting your children through that sort of torture.

In Ender's Game, a novel by Orson Scott Card, one of the characters tells her brother that adults hold all the cards. "They call us children and they treat us like mice," she says. It's a good comment, in that it reflects a society where children are more important for what they can do for the government than what they will become on their own. I recommend the novel highly, (it is science fiction) for anyone who wants a look inside the heads of brilliant children, and also for anyone who thinks that the government actually cares anything about your children.

North Carolina, keep fighting! You've got your values straight, don't let them get twisted around!

63 posted on 12/07/2001 1:54:31 PM PST by JenB
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To: TomSmedley
In all honestly, Alabama has it's share of horror stories also, but I'm referring mainly to adoption/foster care. The family that I mentioned was considering homeschooling when their children were removed.
64 posted on 12/07/2001 8:11:33 PM PST by Tuscaloosa Goldfinch
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To: JenB
That is a good novel, isn't it?
65 posted on 12/07/2001 8:30:30 PM PST by Andrew Wiggin
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