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Wiccan is new state prison chaplain
Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel ^ | 12/6/01 | Nahal Toosi

Posted on 12/06/2001 6:01:55 AM PST by gdani

Wiccan is new state prison chaplain
Some a bit bothered by hiring of Rev. Witch

By NAHAL TOOSI
of the Journal Sentinel staff
Last Updated: Dec. 5, 2001

The new chaplain at Waupun Correctional Institution is a Wiccan.

And a Witch.

The Rev. Jamyi Witch, who has voluntarily ministered to Wisconsin inmates for at least two years, began her new full-time position at the maximum security facility this week. She is believed to be the first Wiccan chaplain in Wisconsin and one of only a handful nationwide.

Department of Corrections officials on Wednesday defended the hire, saying Witch met the position's requirements and that it would be unfair and illegal to bar her from serving because of her faith. They also said that because the facility has another chaplain, and because inmates will have access to numerous volunteer ministers, that no one would feel uncomfortable with Witch.

However, a state lawmaker questioned the process, saying it made little sense to have a chaplain who practices a religion with fairly few followers.

Rep. Scott Walker (R-Wauwatosa), said the committee he leads, the Assembly Corrections and Courts Committee, may look into Witch's hiring.

"I can't imagine that most of the inmates would feel particularly comfortable going to that individual," Walker said. "I would think, in some ways from a religious standpoint, it might actually put inmates in a position that talking to (a Wiccan) is contrary to what some of their own religious beliefs might be."

Witch, whose address is listed as Mount Horeb, could not be reached for comment Wednesday.

While Wicca is associated with paganism, many of its followers refer to it as a religion. The traditions of Wiccans, in general, celebrate nature and the Earth.

Followers are sometimes referred to as witches, though many dislike that term, calling themselves goddess women or, merely, Wiccans.

Out of 1,200 inmates at the institution, 30 are Wiccan, 400 are Christian, and the rest are either non-religious or practice other religions, including those in the Islamic and American Indian traditions, said Gary McCaughtry, the institution's warden.

McCaughtry said about 10 people were interviewed for the civil service position, which does not require ordination or a theological degree. Witch's interviews, references and background propelled her into the top slot. One selling point was that Witch has extensive knowledge of alternative religions, having previously made presentations on the topic to corrections officials.

"Basically, a lot of it has to do with the duties and character of the individual, and Jamyi is an outstandingly approachable person - somebody that I wouldn't mind approaching on spiritual matters myself," McCaughtry said. "If biases are present, it's a matter for us to work through those biases."

There are some limits on the faiths of chaplains and volunteer ministers, he said. Satanists or members of some violent cults, especially those associated with hate groups, wouldn't be allowed to serve.

McCaughtry did not have information on Witch's salary on Wednesday evening. He said the other chaplain is Protestant.

The Wisconsin corrections system has 36 chaplain positions, said spokesman Bill Clausius. "Times have changed," he said. "It's not just Catholic and Protestant anymore."

Discomfort with hiring

The hiring of a Wiccan chaplain leaves the Rev. Timothy Maschke, a professor of theology at Concordia University Wisconsin, "uncomfortable." He said he worried about how much ministering Witch would do.

"The rest of society is not expecting a prison to be a conversion place for Wiccans or for witches," Maschke said. Concordia, in Mequon, is associated with the Lutheran Church-Missouri Synod.

Though Witch may be the first official Wiccan chaplain in Wisconsin, Wiccans have been volunteer ministering to inmates for many years, said Tizzy Hyatt, development director for the Reformed Congregation of the Goddess in Dane County. Hyatt said she knew of five people in Wisconsin alone.

Wicca is "a very fast-growing religion, and also there's so many misconceptions about it," Hyatt said. "We're just like any other ordained folks. We have ordained priests and priestesses. Most Wiccans in general do not proselytize. We don't ever try to convert anyone."

According to press reports, about 50 Wiccan chaplains are in hospitals and prisons in the United Kingdom. In the United States, chaplains in the armed forces recognize Wicca, and its followers sometimes meet on military bases.

Selena Fox, a senior minister with Circle Sanctuary, a Wiccan congregation in Mount Horeb, said she has performed ministerial duties in prisons as far back as 1980 and serves as a consultant to the U.S. Department of Justice on religious accommodation for Wiccans and followers of other nature religions.

Estimates of Wiccans in the U.S. vary greatly, from 200,000 to 5 million, Fox said, adding, "in the state of Wisconsin, I'm sure there's over 5,000."


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Seems to me an issue like this is a great test for those many people who claim to be all for "religious liberty" but are really only for "Christian liberty"
1 posted on 12/06/2001 6:01:55 AM PST by gdani
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To: gdani
"Rev. Witch?" - Are we sure this wasn't originally published by The Onion?

And, no, this is not all Harry Potter's fault......

2 posted on 12/06/2001 6:03:09 AM PST by gdani
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To: gdani
If we don't stand for something, we'll stoop to anything!!!

Love, Do

3 posted on 12/06/2001 6:07:33 AM PST by Clifdo
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To: gdani
Can anyone explain to me why we pay for any religious ministering in government institutions? These are full time, government paid jobs, yes? One for every recognized religion? Why is the ACLU not all over this?

I can see why it would be especially important to people in prison (and the army, for that matter) to have religious teachers around them. It would seem to me it should be especially important to those religious leaders to provide that instruction without sticking their hands in the public purse.

It's about the souls, not the dole, isn't it?

4 posted on 12/06/2001 6:15:09 AM PST by Ratatoskr
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To: Ratatoskr
Can anyone explain to me why we pay for any religious ministering in government institutions? These are full time, government paid jobs, yes? One for every recognized religion? Why is the ACLU not all over this?

Agreed. Those who take consider themselves religious should be particularly concerned because such policies lead to either:

A) Other faiths eventually being represented - something not acceptable to many - or

B) All faiths being represented in a general, mushy feel-good sense that is also unacceptable to many who would rather keep the lines between religions and denominations brightly drawn.

By the way, I *think* the issue of prison chaplains, military chaplains, police chaplains, etc has been litigated with the outcome being that tax-payer funded clergy in these instances are acceptable so long as they do not favor their own denomination and do not actively proselytize.

5 posted on 12/06/2001 6:28:03 AM PST by gdani
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To: gdani
Madison syndrome....
6 posted on 12/06/2001 6:32:36 AM PST by blackdog
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To: gdani
Yep!
7 posted on 12/06/2001 6:32:48 AM PST by SpikeG
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To: gdani
>Estimates of Wiccans in the U.S. vary greatly, from 200,000 to 5 million, Fox said, adding, "in the state of Wisconsin, I'm sure there's over 5,000."

Mark W.

8 posted on 12/06/2001 6:38:09 AM PST by MarkWar
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Seems to me an issue like this is a great test for those many people who claim to be all for "religious liberty" but are really only for "Christian liberty"

No, it shows corruption and collusion which is typically manifested in hiring people unqualified for the the position.

9 posted on 12/06/2001 6:38:37 AM PST by tallhappy
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No, it shows corruption and collusion which is typically manifested in hiring people unqualified for the the position.

In what way is the chaplain "unqualified"?
10 posted on 12/06/2001 6:43:37 AM PST by Dimensio
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To: gdani
this is a great test for those many people who claim to be all for "religious liberty" but are really only for "Christian liberty"

What a great way to kick off a Christian-bashing thread!
Come on all you Liberaltarians, pile on!!

11 posted on 12/06/2001 6:45:25 AM PST by Psalm 73
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What a great way to kick off a Christian-bashing thread!

It's not Christian-bashing at all. It *is* bashing those who always gripe about religious liberty for their own faith but howl when other faiths receive the same benefits. Such howling is not limited to those who are Christians either.

If that doesn't describe you, then don't worry about it.

12 posted on 12/06/2001 6:49:22 AM PST by gdani
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To: Ratatoskr
My first thought too. Anything can declare itself a religion. That is why separation of church and state--even though it's not mentioned word for word in the Constitution--is a dandy idea.
13 posted on 12/06/2001 6:50:03 AM PST by firebrand
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To: gdani
By the way, I *think* the issue of prison chaplains, military chaplains, police chaplains, etc has been litigated with the outcome being that tax-payer funded clergy in these instances are acceptable so long as they do not favor their own denomination and do not actively proselytize.

In a way, that's weirder.

It seems to me that if you really, really believe you have a handle on the one and only True Answer to Salvation, you must favor your own denomination and actively proselytize.

I'm not religious, so maybe I'm missing something important here. But whenever somebody says to me "I never let my religion interfere with my _________", I always assume they don't really believe. If you really and truly believe something, it should permeate with every aspect of your life, shouldn't it? This non-proselytizing, non-denominational stuff is like The Church of Having Someplace to Go on Sundays Before Lunch Because There's Nothing Good on TV. In which case, you might as well be a Wiccan. Or even a Unitarian.

14 posted on 12/06/2001 6:52:54 AM PST by Ratatoskr
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Why is the ACLU not all over this?

To ask is to answer. Here they have an ally in opposing "Orthodox" religions, ant the ally actually has some believing [it] is no different from orthodox.

15 posted on 12/06/2001 6:53:04 AM PST by LantzALot
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To: tallhappy
" No, it shows corruption and collusion which is typically manifested in hiring people unqualified for the the position. "

Where does this show collusion or corruption?

" McCaughtry said about 10 people were interviewed for the civil service position, which does not require ordination or a theological degree. Witch's interviews, references and background propelled her into the top slot. One selling point was that Witch has extensive knowledge of alternative religions, having previously made presentations on the topic to corrections officials. "

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

16 posted on 12/06/2001 6:53:10 AM PST by Kakaze
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To: blackdog
Definately. Do you know if the Wiccans are associated with the 'freedom from religon' group, which is based in Madistan? I wouldn't be suprised....
17 posted on 12/06/2001 6:53:43 AM PST by WIMom
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To: Ratatoskr
This non-proselytizing, non-denominational stuff is like The Church of Having Someplace to Go on Sundays Before Lunch Because There's Nothing Good on TV.

What an utterly silly religion that must be. I just stay in bed.
18 posted on 12/06/2001 6:55:07 AM PST by Dimensio
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Can a witch even make an argument against the crimes that the prisoners have done? As long as no one was harmed then for Wicca it's ok.
19 posted on 12/06/2001 6:55:29 AM PST by biblewonk
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Can a witch even make an argument against the crimes that the prisoners have done? As long as no one was harmed then for Wicca it's ok.

I'm not sure I understand you. If the prisonors harmed no one, then what crime got them tossed into prison?
20 posted on 12/06/2001 6:58:30 AM PST by Dimensio
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