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I think it dishonest for the Palestinians to claim Israel as their homeland based upon this info. Please fellow freepers, tell me where this info is wrong. If not, then Israel has a right to defend herself using whatever means posible
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To: 100American
Which came first , the chicken or the egg?
2 posted on
12/05/2001 7:53:11 PM PST by
KQQL
To: 100American
I don't know what event you may be using to say when Israel became a nation, but that event surely was earlier than 1312 BCE.
Current scholarship among those who accept that there was a Moses and an Exodus, places the event in the mid-fifteenth century, and remember the Passover and the Lawgiving occurred only some 50 days apart in the same calendar year...
The correct date is thus 1461 to 1441 BCE, and my bet is toward the latter end of that, say 1444, that has a certain ring to it, all those 4's...
3 posted on
12/05/2001 7:55:01 PM PST by
crystalk
To: 100American; dennisw; veronica; monkeyshine
100American --- great post! Bookmarked
denw --- put you ping list to this thread!
veronica --- for your files!
monkeyshine --- see above to veronica! (stolen from you)
4 posted on
12/05/2001 7:55:54 PM PST by
onyx
To: 100American
THE SEVEN RULES OF NATIONALISM.
1. If an area was ours for 500 years and yours for 50 years, it should belong to us -- you are merely occupiers.
2. If an area was yours for 500 years and ours for 50 years, it should belong to us -- borders must not be changed.
3. If an area belonged to us 500 years ago but never since then, it should belong to us -- it is the Cradle of our Nation.
4. If a majority of our people live there, it must belong to us -- they must enjoy the right of self-determination.
5. If a minority of our people live there, it must belong to us -- they must be protected against your oppression.
6. All the above rules apply to us but not to you.
7. Our dream of greatness is Historical Necessity, yours is Fascism.
5 posted on
12/05/2001 7:57:06 PM PST by
x
To: 100American
Bump
8 posted on
12/05/2001 7:59:21 PM PST by
Exigence
To: 100American; SJackson; anapikoros; white trash redneck; sheik yerbouty; Inyokern; Anamensis...
9 posted on
12/05/2001 7:59:50 PM PST by
Alouette
To: 100American
21. Isaac was the son of promise not Ishmael. Therefore, the land promised by God to Abraham falls to the descendents of Isaac. His descendants will ulimately inherit all of the land promised, not just the small part that is the seat of centention today.
11 posted on
12/05/2001 8:00:46 PM PST by
drstevej
To: 100American
Most of the people now calling themselves Palestinian are Egyptian. That includes Yasser Arafat, and most of the others, esp if surname ends in -awi.
Jordan, Arabia, and Lebanon together are perhaps 25%, if one looks at where their ancestors lived in 1850.
Egypt would be about 60%. Perhaps 15% lived in what is now Israel in 1850.
PS Arafat is a pseudonym of course: it is the holy mountain outside Mecca where Satan appeared to Muhammad some 615 AD.
12 posted on
12/05/2001 8:02:30 PM PST by
crystalk
To: 100American
Arab conquest of Jerusalem and Israel took place 638 AD, not 635. One sometimes sees 640, because the Muslim armies withdrew for a time fearing approach of Byzantine navy and/or Iranian armies...
13 posted on
12/05/2001 8:03:55 PM PST by
crystalk
To: 100American
Goodness! That's a lot of information I did not know before. Israel never ceases to fill me with amazement. I hope in the future this country of ours becomes more and more of a brother nation to Israel.
14 posted on
12/05/2001 8:05:08 PM PST by
so_real
To: 100American
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17 posted on
12/05/2001 8:08:19 PM PST by
ZOOKER
To: 100American
Your item 7. David did not FOUND Jerusalem: it was a minor city-state of varying significance for well over a thousand years before David conquered it in 996 BC. Some say a few years earlier than that.
Your item 11. You say 630,000 "Palestinians" fled in 1948 from Israel, and seemingly you are saying never returned. First of all, the term Palestinian was never then used for Arabs, who were just called Arabs. It meant the Jews living there if it meant anyone. Secondly, the 630M is the estimate of the total number of Arabs then living in 1948 in what became Israel, not the number who fled, much less the number who stayed away and never came back. The true number is more like 200 to 300 thousand, tops...
18 posted on
12/05/2001 8:09:13 PM PST by
crystalk
To: 100American
The Jews were oritinally from what is now known as Iraq. The immigrated and stomped the hell out of the people then living in what was eventually known as Palistine. Palistine is the modern pronunciation of Philistine, whose murder and displacement by the Jews we celebrate as the intent of God. A few people at the time and since doubt and dispute that that was God's word and intent. That doubt and dispute has been the ultimate reason for wars over that land since then.
The Jews immigrated, conquered, and stole that land fair and square. If they are strong enough, they can keep it. If other people are strong enough to take it back, the Israelis will lose it.
19 posted on
12/05/2001 8:10:36 PM PST by
RLK
To: 100American
BTTT
To: 100American
I take offense at B.C.E. It is anti-Christian. The "common era" the Birth of Christ. Therefor it is still BC or AD you liberal leftist chump
23 posted on
12/05/2001 8:14:19 PM PST by
Henchman
To: 100American
http://www.seattleartmuseum.org/Exhibitions/Egypt/Emania/epedia/terms/SeaPeople.htm
24 posted on
12/05/2001 8:16:12 PM PST by
blam
To: 100American
Wasn't it the Jews that sent Jesus Christ to his death?
26 posted on
12/05/2001 8:18:54 PM PST by
Buckeroo
To: sjeann
ping
To: sjeann
ping
To: 100American
If anyone is interested in the truth read "From Time Immemorial." I believe it was on Amazon's best seller list.
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