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The Jews were oritinally from what is now known as Iraq. The immigrated and stomped the hell out of the people then living in what was eventually known as Palistine. Palistine is the modern pronunciation of Philistine, whose murder and displacement by the Jews we celebrate as the intent of God. A few people at the time and since doubt and dispute that that was God's word and intent. That doubt and dispute has been the ultimate reason for wars over that land since then.

The Jews immigrated, conquered, and stole that land fair and square. If they are strong enough, they can keep it. If other people are strong enough to take it back, the Israelis will lose it.

Originally from Iraq just maybe, or more likely from points just north and northwest of Iraq, now in Turkey or Syria by a few miles to a couple hundred miles...

But this ignores the fact that they invaded and conquered the present land of Israel from the south and southeast, after their sojourn in Egypt. The many words and similarities between ancient Egyptian (Coptic), not a Semitic tongue at all-- and Hebrew, loan words such as Emet, the word for "truth"-- show the Egyptian cultural and linguistic connection very strongly despite the NW Mesopotamian bio-ethnic (male DNA) origin of their physical bodies...

Palistine is the modern pronunciation of Philistine, whose murder and displacement by the Jews we celebrate as the intent of God.

The Philistines (Pelashim in Hebrew) were invaders from Greece. Their territory roughly approximated the present day Gaza Strip.

The primary inhabitants of the land prior to the Hebrews were not the Philistines but the Canaanites (Phoenicians).

There is actually some recently scholarship that suggests the word Palestine actuals derives from a Greek translation of Israel. The first recorded usage of Palestine (Palaistine) came from the Greeks and is very similiar in etymology to the word palaistes (which means "to wrestle" or "adversary") In the Greek Sepuagint this word "palaistes" is used to describe the struggle between Jacob and the angel. As we know, Jacob's named was changed to Yisra'el (Israel) which means literally "to struggle with God".

We also know that the Philistines settled regions along the coast of the Mediterranean sometime around the 13th century B.C. (don't want to use B.C.E. and be accused of being a liberal!) This would put the Philistines in the area of Palestine several hundred years AFTER Abraham and Lot settled the area of what is now the West Bank (including Jerusalem).

"The Jews were oritinally from what is now known as Iraq."

That is wholy untrue. Abraham and his family alone were from Ur in Iraq. He travelled to the region of Israel as a result of it being within the fertile cresecent and along the main route travelled from North Africa to Mesopotamia.

"They immigrated and stomped the hell out of the people then living in what was eventually known as Palistine."

Again not true.

They returned to Israel after being captive in Egypt that is when they stomped the Phillistines amongst a whole host of other peoples.

Another note about another post....Jerusalem had indeed been a city state during the time of Abraham, as he offered sacrifice to Melchisedek(sp?) the King of Salem which encompassed modern day Jerusalem as well as the surrounding mountains.

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King david did found the city of David and make it his capital...basically founding what is today Jerusalem.

>The Jews were oritinally from what is now known as Iraq.

Actually, there were no Jews until much later.

A group of Hebrews (of which there were/are many variations) migrated from Iraq to Palestine. As the 12 Sons of (Jacob)/Israel they later migrated to Egypt. As the 12 Tribes of the 12 Sons they migrated back to Palestine where they couldn't get along with each other so split up into the Northern Kingdom and the Southern Kingdom.

The very large Northern Kingdom, under Ephriam, also known as the House of Israel, was made up of all the tribes except Judah, Levi and part of Benjamin. It was taken into captivity by the Assyrians to the fertile crescent area ~722BC, and later, as a group of over 5 Million Israelites escaped and migrated north through the Caucasus mountains, to appear in history as the Celts. These Celts became a huge population, eventally overrunning small local tribes and are the root stock of todays Europeans and Americans.

The smaller Southern Kingdom was made up of the Tribes of Judah & Levi plus part of Benjamin. It was also called the House of Judah, and it's residents called Jews.

European/American Whites and Jews look so much alike because they are cousins.