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RADIATION POISIONING BETRAYS DEAD N.J. 'MULE'-3rd Terror Warning for Mid December
DEBKAfile/World Net Daily ^ | December 4, 2001 | Terrorism and Security Newsletter-Forbes Magazine 'Best of the Web'

Posted on 12/04/2001 5:11:56 PM PST by codebreaker

One factor in the third general terror alert raised in the United States since the September 11 relates according to US media, to intelligence information indicating the the former Saudi terrorist Osama bin Laden has gained possession of a so-called dirty or radiological bomb. The target date referred to in electronic intercepts is Mid-December. It has also been suggested that such weapons may have smuggled into the United States.

On Oct. 12 DEBKA-Net-Weekley reported from its intelligence sources that Bin Laden had almost certainly procured a supply of uranium -235 six months before the September 11 suicide attacks. The uranium was believed to have reached him in a multimillion deal with a Ukranian-born mobster called Semion Mogilevich.

DEBKA-Net- Weekley came back to the subject more recently on November 30, in another exclusive report:RADIATION POISIONING BETRAYS MULE

In the first week of October, Pakastani arrested on immigration charges in the course of the FBI investigation into the September 11 suicide attacks, complained of bleeding gums and pain, symptoms of gingivitis. He was treated with antibiotics, but was found dead in his cell in Hudson Couty jail in Kearny, New Jersey, three weeks later.

The cause of death was not released, any more than the dead man's identity.

DEBKA-Net Weekley's medical experts note that the bleeding gums the anonymous Pakistani was treated for are a symptom of radiation poisioning, suggesting he might have been a 'mule' transporting nuclear materials or devices into America. (A subsequent investigation revealed that he had contracted gingivitis in a result of radiation-induced lukemia)

This explanaion would imply that more than one such carrier is employed by al Qaeda to smuggle nuclear materials or devices into the United States, Western Europe and the Middile East, their mission being to plant their deadly burders in pre-arranged secret locations, ready for activation.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Business/Economy; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: alqaeda; dead; deaddetainee; detainee; ill; leukemia; mule; nuclear; nukes; radiation; radiationsickness; smuggling; wmd
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To: codebreaker
I think it ends Dec 17
101 posted on 12/05/2001 1:18:57 AM PST by tessalu
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To: Governor StrangeReno
Muhammed had absolutely no proof that he ever saw an angel. His own relatives said he had fits and was posessed.
102 posted on 12/05/2001 1:21:44 AM PST by tessalu
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To: razorback-bert
I certainly do not know if this story is true or not but I do know some things about Lukemia and the effects of radiation on the human body (a few years back I worked on a radiation exposure monitoring system for a power plant). First, bleeding gums can be a sign of lukemia but radiation induced lukemia is different from accute radiation poisoning. Bleeding gums may also be a sign of accute radiation poisoning, but the full symptomology of radiation poisoning would probably be present if that were the cause of death. Radiation induced lukemia will usually occur quite a bit after the exposure.

I guess we shall see what the story is. I do know that the Secretary of Defense is not outright dismissing some type of radiation or nuclear attack from Al Qaeda and/or other associated terrorists. Therefor I do not dismiss this as a possibility.

Stay well - stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown

103 posted on 12/05/2001 4:15:15 AM PST by harpseal
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To: Poohbah
Ping...
104 posted on 12/05/2001 4:45:00 AM PST by Fury
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To: Fury
harpseal's analysis is spot-on...severe radiation poisoning would pretty easily ID'd, and it would have leaked by now.

DEBKA kind of lost my respect when they said that the USMC does its desert warfare training in Scranton, Pennsylvania.

105 posted on 12/05/2001 4:52:42 AM PST by Poohbah
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To: Poohbah
Don't forget the invasion of Jordan by Iraq they reported this summer. That was a clue that the folks at Debka are smoking crack.
106 posted on 12/05/2001 4:58:05 AM PST by Dog Gone
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To: PokeyJoe
I read something on DEBKA that Mohammed had a dream about goat CHEESE bomb.

Yes. It is known among the French as "Le Feu du Fromage Horrible," translated; The Horrible Fire of Cheese. Intelligence reports say that Osama has gotten hold of combustible curds and may now be developing a " Dirty Cheese Bomb." This does not bode well for our troops on the ground. One dirty cheese bomb will turn the whole operation into one giant cluster-fondu.

107 posted on 12/05/2001 5:04:39 AM PST by KirkandBurke
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To: codebreaker
The DEBKA "courier's" name is well known, and he has been autopsied including toxicology. He was arrested on Sept. 19, and died more than a month later. The FBI had released him from questioning because he was not "of interest," and he was awaiting INS deportation (which most assuredly takes more than one month).

Since DEBKA is (as usual) so wrong on the details, and since the story hinges on the so-called mystery of Mohammad Butt, I must assume that the rest of the story is equally sloppy and a flat out fabrication.

Unless the FBI, the INS judge, INS personnel, the police, jail guards, the coroner, and the county prosecutor are all in conspiracy and lying, which I don't think is the case.

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-000085041oct25.story

Mohammad Butt was detained Sept. 19 and initially questioned by FBI agents about the hijacked airplanes that struck the World Trade Center on Sept. 11.

FBI Turns Him Over to INS

When the FBI decided that Butt was not of "interest" to their investigation, the bureau turned him over to the Immigration and Naturalization Service because he had overstayed his visa.

He then accepted an immigration judge's decision to deport him to Jhelum, in the Punjab region of Pakistan.

"He didn't have a hearing. He waived his hearing," said Russ Bergeron, an INS spokesman in Washington.

"He simply wanted to be sent back home."

He was awaiting his travel documents when his cellmate looked in on him on his jailhouse bunk at 11:05 a.m. Tuesday. He was not stirring.

Authorities said there were no visible signs of injury or trauma. A nasal swab was taken to learn if he had possibly been a victim of anthrax poisoning; he was not.

He had complained about a gum disease and was being treated with antibiotics, jail officials said. They said his heart gave out.

Terrence Hull, a first assistant prosecutor in Hudson County, said a death certificate will be filed once final toxicology results are completed in a month or more.

"We had difficulty in trying to notify his next of kin, and we did that finally through the consulate's office," Hull said.

Asad Hayauddin, an embassy spokesman, said his government is accepting the finding of heart failure "until we hear otherwise."

108 posted on 12/05/2001 5:14:29 AM PST by angkor
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To: harpseal
the full symptomology of radiation poisoning would probably be present if that were the cause of death

Yeah, it seems that radiation poisoning would include far more than bleeding gums followed by death from heart attack. Typical symptoms include:


109 posted on 12/05/2001 5:22:16 AM PST by angkor
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To: codebreaker
I have a geiger counter that I acquired at a garage sale years ago. Yesterday I realized that I should start carrying it in my car. If we had thousands of volunteers carrying around radiation meters with them we might be able to pinpoint suspicious vehicles, houses, etc. as we go about our daily business. Nukes and dirty bombs have one little weakness...you can detect them with the right equipment. The government has a few teams with radiation meters out there, but I'm sure that there's not enough. Be sure to snap a few photos or shoot some video of any suspicious vehicles or people.
110 posted on 12/05/2001 5:55:51 AM PST by darth
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To: codebreaker
I view DebKa as the "Boy who cried wolf". Its always in the back of my mind that one of these stories may have a grain of truth, so I do not dismiss everything they say out of hand.

God Bless America

111 posted on 12/05/2001 6:09:43 AM PST by JustAnAmerican
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To: JustAnAmerican
Let's not forget these dates:

December 9th, the beginning of Hannakuh.
December 12th, the Feast of the People (the Lady of Guadelupe (sp?)

One is the beginning of the Jewish holiday, the other is a Christian holiday. I don't know whether DEBKA is credible or not but isn't this a war against Christians and Jews?

112 posted on 12/05/2001 6:39:42 AM PST by DJ88
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To: angkor
There are 'real' news sources out there that plainly state that the detainee who died had been complaining about gum pains.

Which in itself is kind of odd. If I was a radical terrorist captured by the forces of the Great Satan, I don't think a touch of gingivitis would be the top of my concerns.

Unless of course it was pretty severe.

That doesn't mean of course that he had access or control of a supply of U-235. That'd be far more dangerous then having access to a load of radioactive waste. But at minimum it suggests that Al-Quaeda potentially has a dirty bomb at its' disposal, or at worse, a Hiroshima type bomb.

113 posted on 12/05/2001 6:49:20 AM PST by altayann
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To: DJ88
Dec. 13th is the Aga Khan's birthday.

If they do anything Dec. 12-13th, it will be fun to see the assassinations.

The one thing the Saudis are scared of are the Aga Khan's people.

Really.

114 posted on 12/05/2001 6:51:11 AM PST by japaneseghost
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To: nimdoc
The dangerous form of uranium is isotope 238, not 235.

Actually, I think you guys have it backwards. U-238 is fairly stable uranium, and relatively common. Bombarding it with neutrons will not generate a nuclear reaction.

U-235 is unstable, and extremely rare in nature. In fact, the only way to obtain (as far as I know) is to separate it from sources that mostly contain U-238. But because it is unstable, it can be used to generate nuclear reactions.

If I can find a source to confirm this, I'll post it.

116 posted on 12/05/2001 6:54:38 AM PST by altayann
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To: codebreaker
Let's not forget the bridges the terrorists wiped out in California.
117 posted on 12/05/2001 6:58:33 AM PST by Vinomori
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To: tet68
12 Radioactive chesses
11 Pashtun Pipers
10 Warlords-A-Leaping
9 Burquas Dancing
8 Goats a milking
7 Swami's swimming
6 Bunker Busters
5 Tom-A-Hawks
4 Daisy Cutters
3 C-130's
2 Mortars firing
and Osama Hanging in a pear tree
119 posted on 12/05/2001 7:24:16 AM PST by Delbert
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To: codebreaker
I have been trying to find an Italian news story approx Feb 2001 about the Italian Police finding snuff paedophile movies in the office of some major Italian Industrialist. Apparently for $50,ooo plus This Semion Mogilevich and his woman wil arrange for a movie to be made to your plot.There was also an Israeli connection but I cannot remeber all the details

It was also reported in the UK in Guardian, but they spelt his name wrong.

Apparently the Ukraine is a very scary place.

120 posted on 12/05/2001 7:28:18 AM PST by unending thunder
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