Dems: 'It's George Bush's Recession'

CNSNews.com ^ | November 30, 2001

[Nakota]

I suppose the next thing Nita will try to tell us is that if the election had not been stolen from Al Gore, none of this would have happened!

[Darnright]

>What the economic ignoramuses at the demo party don't understand is the concept of economic lag. Recessions don't begin overnight.

Of course they understand it. This phenomenon allowed that slime Clinton to get out by the skin of his teeth, while most of the sheeple were still being lulled by BeelzeBubba's propagandists' whispers of "the economy is GREAT" (when those of us with a clue knew we were heading down the slippery slope of economic downturn, and had been for some time)

Let's face it, the DemoRats are masters at taking any political advantage and sticking the long, sharp knife into the backs of Conservatives. It frustrates me to no end that the Republicans sit there and take it.

[oldironsides]

I listened to Dick Cheney and GW Bush on the campaign trail. Both knew what was coming and were upfront about it. They saw a downturn as did many others. The 9/11 attack made it worse. The GOP had better get out front on this one because the lie will be spinning more each day until it becomes an "election Demofact"

[GeorgeWashington777]

I believe until the end of September or October we were still running on Clinton's Budget and Pres. Bush's didn't even go into effect until then. Except for the retro tax cut?

[Marysecretary]

Yes, it IS GWB's recession, handed down to him from the Clinton administration. Now he's stuck with it and the dirty dems don't intend to help him get the country out of it. Too embarrassing for THEM, I guess.

[Marysecretary]

ONLY if it's Irish and royal, b4!

[1 FELLOW FREEPER]

It is outwardly apparent that Gephardt and Daschle have made a pact to hurt the econmoy as much as possible,and hanging it around President Bush's neck.The Prez has got to expose these creatures for what they are or it will work to a certain degree.One thing in our favor, is that Bush has a modicum of "street brains", so I don't believe he will lay down to be kicked like most Republicans seem to do.

[Wyatt's Torch]

I remember hearing someone in 1995 say, whoever is President from 1996-2000 will be the luckiest person alive. And whoever is elected president in 2000 will be the unluckiest.

[Godfollow]

Ya, and when the recession is over, it will be GW's booming economy. The 90's was the decade of fraud and deceit, and that includes the economy of the 90's. We are now having to pay for Clinton's sham economy and presidency.

[SuziQ]

It's President George W. Bush's recession, it stems from his tax cuts

I hope they go all over the tube pushing this idea, because the word just came down from on high this week that the recession officially began in MARCH, 2001. This means that the slowdown had begun MONTHS before that, which means that happened during x42's tenure. Already the signs are about that the recession may even be ending; the economic indicators seem to show we're heading up out of it.

The tax rebates hadn't happened in March, and the tax cuts hadn't even been VOTED on then, so they couldn't POSSIBLY have had anything to do with it! But I hope the Dems try to use it, we'll have LOTS of ammunition with which to shoot down THAT argument.

[Stand Watch Listen]

Let's face it, the DemoRats are masters at taking any political advantage and sticking the long, sharp knife into the backs of Conservatives. It frustrates me to no end that the Republicans sit there and take it.

Oh so very true. The Republicans inactions on a good number of Democrat lies/misdirections/partial truths is so exacerbating.

The Republicans are wasting an opportunity in their nonuse of the presidential 'bully pulpit'. President Ronald Reagan knew how to frame an issue and present it the the American populace. Presidnet Bush has shown he has the potential to do likewise. Perhaps he just may.

[cake_crumb]

"Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee chairwoman..."

That tells us all we need to know to defeat this one:

This isn't about the economy because the Democrats could care less about the economy. This is about VOTES. Period.

[muleskinner]

Backfire, Big Time

[chimera]

Ya, and when the recession is over, it will be GW's booming economy.

If it happens soon enough. Timing is everything. It went that way in '82-'83 and helped Reagan, not to mention that he was opposed by perhaps the dullest, stupidest, and most uninspiring candidate this side of George McGovern. Technically, the recession of early 1990 ended before the '92 elections, but not soon enough to help Bush I (as well as the 'Pubs doing their usual thing of sitting on their @$$es while the 'Rats whipped the sheeple into a hysteria about how GHW Bush "didn't care" about the "ordinary guy"). The 'Rats repeated the lie and the sheeple did their sheeple thing and elected The Scum Of The Earth.

[chimera]

No matter what, the Pubbies have to be the aggressors. If your are not on offense, you are on defense.

I have often thought that, unlike football, where a strong defense is usually crucial to winning games, or baseball, where a good defense and strong pitching almost always neutralizes good hitting, playing defense in politics is usually a losing strategy. Getting out in front of an issue, framing the debate in a manner favorable to your position, and carrying the fight to the opponent's territory are tactics the 'Pubs never seem to master, except perhaps for Reagan in the campaigns of the 1980's.

Another thing the 'Pubs have to counter is this insistent Big Lie the 'Rats are always pounding on about "corporate tax breaks", or "corporate welfare". Your suggestion about "putting a face on it" with the tax refunds could also work here. What are businesses really? For the most part, just people working for a living. We've seen a barrage of these "I am an American" PSAs on TV lately. Perhaps an adaptation of that, or the old "I am the NRA" mantra. Show some assembly line workers and have one of them say "I am a corporation", or a lineman up on a tower, and say "I am the utility industry", and plant the seed that railing against "evil corporations" by the 'Rats just hurts, in the end, ordinary working folks. Filing frivolous lawsuits against Microsoft just causes people to lose their jobs. The "rich people" the 'Rats are always blasting are never hurt. They just parachute out of there and the working stiffs get the shaft.

[cake_crumb]

"Show some assembly line workers and have one of them say "I am a corporation", or a lineman up on a tower, and say "I am the utility industry", and plant the seed that railing against "evil corporations" by the 'Rats just hurts, in the end, ordinary working folks."

Excellent suggestion.

Remember folks, the democrats aren't worried about the economy. The democrats just want votes.

[AUgrad]

Its not Bush's or anyone else's recession. It is part of the natural economic cycle. I believe we will pull out of it within the next calender year.

[Elihu Burritt]

No, it's not W's recession. Remember, Algore really won the election, so it rightfully belongs to him.

[b4its2late]

It's a little bit of both...... ;-)

[Revolting cat!]

It's all political calculus, remember. Most people are not really affected by the recession in any significant life threatening way (i.e. lose their job, are unable to find another because they're over 45, lose their house declare bankrupcy and so on.) Most people are affected psychologically (i.e. they become afraid that the above scenario might happen to them.) Consequently, most people will fall for whatever is the prevailing or more persuasive propaganda, the way they did in November 1992.

I still remember the economic nonsense spewed out at the time by my then boss, a RAT and an intelligent man otherwise, who allowed himself to be completely manipulated and misinformed by the media, and used that "knowledge" to justify voting his fears and prejudices, since he wasn't voting his pocketbook, because his pocketbook wasn't affected.

The purpose then of such propaganda as described above is to create pieces of conventional wisdom, certain unassailable truths (unassailable to their holders,) which the voters will take to the ballot punching machines next November.

There have been numerous proposals on how to stimulate the economy, all of them centered around tax cuts on marginal tax rates and on capital spending and none of which is being considered or has any chance of being passed, only because of what I described above - most people are not materially affected by the recession and they won't hold the politicians' (of both parties) feet to the fire.