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Aviation Question, hoping there are some oversea-experienced pilots here...
Enquiring Mind | 11/30/2001 | MississippiMan

Posted on 11/29/2001 9:33:01 PM PST by MississippiMan

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I've been waiting for a thread like this to ask another question, if I may...

I recently saw a plane fly over my house that was small, white, had to tail fins with a prop/jet in between them.
I assume it was a jet, but it looked like a prop.
I am in the path of several airports, see planes constantly, and have never seen a plane that was similar.

Any ideas what it was?

41 posted on 11/29/2001 11:12:52 PM PST by PRND21
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To: Travis McGee
No, you can't. LOL.
42 posted on 11/29/2001 11:13:05 PM PST by patton
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To: PRND21
Mixmaster.
43 posted on 11/29/2001 11:14:39 PM PST by patton
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To: MississippiMan
Take it out of New York - Gander, New Foundland as a "coast-out." Eastbound routes are flown in the evening via daily issued parallel "tracks," predicated on the forecast winds. The northern tracks pass mostly just south of Greenland. Use "Inertial Reference" system for navigation, backed up by GPS. Position reporting is a fight on HF radio frequencies, due to frequency congestion. There would be about 8 over-water reports, then back into the "VOR" navigation, heading inbound into London, Paris, or wherever. ATC radar coverage is within about 150 miles of shore. Very rough seas below, with occasional icebergs, "calved" from the greenland glaciers.
44 posted on 11/29/2001 11:16:00 PM PST by fliberman
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To: patton
I had a bunch of boiled shrimp at relatives last week, no Old Bay seasoning. Like eating white worms, blech.
45 posted on 11/29/2001 11:17:48 PM PST by Travis McGee
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To: patton
Thanks for the reply, but I did a search and this was not it...

Much newer, sleeker, with two tail fins on top, side by side.

46 posted on 11/29/2001 11:22:28 PM PST by PRND21
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To: Travis McGee
The political figure could even be Al Gore. Didn't he singlehandedly send a lot of money to Russia in a hush hush sort of way?
47 posted on 11/29/2001 11:24:43 PM PST by Balata
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To: MississippiMan
What would be the likely route a pilot would take from Omaha to Moscow?

Directions from Omaha to Moscow in 4 hours, 50 minutes

48 posted on 11/29/2001 11:26:30 PM PST by Cultural Jihad
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To: Balata
Bingo. Funny money laundering of World Bank funds through some "connected" banks in NYC also.
49 posted on 11/29/2001 11:26:40 PM PST by Travis McGee
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To: patton
Ahhhhhh Steamed Blue Crab ;o) ............ yer on dude !

Stay Safe !

50 posted on 11/29/2001 11:31:10 PM PST by Squantos
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To: Cultural Jihad
LOL! Moscow Russia not Moscow Iowa.
51 posted on 11/29/2001 11:33:17 PM PST by Balata
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To: Travis McGee
Yea, and the main character was using some of this laundered money to front his corporation.
52 posted on 11/29/2001 11:39:22 PM PST by Balata
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To: PRND21
I see this page has an airplane identifier on it:
http://www.sonnet.co.uk/rcollini/aero/airid.htm

And here:
http://www2s.biglobe.ne.jp/~ito-nori/

And a host of aviation links:
http://www.uk-airshows.demon.co.uk/links.htm

53 posted on 11/29/2001 11:41:30 PM PST by Cultural Jihad
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To: MississippiMan
Find a globe and stretch a string city to city. Often it is quite surprising what the shortest route is. Example: Denver to Saigon the shortest route takes you over Nome, Alaska. I'm guessing you would have (nearly) a polar route going to Moscow.
54 posted on 11/30/2001 12:59:17 AM PST by Aeronaut
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To: patton
I don't believe we have ever met. I was in DC last December, but I didn't attention the Hide The Silverware Ball.
55 posted on 11/30/2001 3:19:57 AM PST by Hillary's Lovely Legs
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To: Travis McGee
The T-bird advance man put it into a dive, climbed straight out vertically until it stalled standing on its tail, then he killed the engine and he pulled out the key.

After we got back on the ground we would've had some serious words. At least words. YIKES.

MM

56 posted on 11/30/2001 6:44:00 AM PST by MississippiMan
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To: PRND21
Much newer, sleeker, with two tail fins on top, side by side.

Sounds like some sort of experimental kit plane to me. Funny looking contraption? Weird shape, kinda futuristic looking?

MM

57 posted on 11/30/2001 6:53:17 AM PST by MississippiMan
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To: Travis McGee
... sailing is a lot cheaper, (180 gallons of diesel goes a LONG way at 5 knots!), not to mention the wind is free

Sailed to Europe from MA this past June on a 44' Cherubini. We had approximately 90 gallons of diesel aboard ... arrived Gibraltar (via Azores) with fuel to spare. We used the engine daily to recharge batteries, or, when the wind fell off, to boost our speed.

58 posted on 11/30/2001 7:07:47 AM PST by BluH2o
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You know it. My steel 48'er has a new Perkins M-80T Prima, that little sucker really goes and barely uses diesel.
59 posted on 11/30/2001 7:20:05 AM PST by Travis McGee
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To: MississippiMan
You need to hop in to an aviation school that has Gulfstreams and ask them if you can consult their flight manual. Better yet, you can buy yourself the flight manual and calculate some of the routes. I believe you can also buy flight plans from Jeppesen. It might be pricey but it will be incredibly valuable info.
60 posted on 11/30/2001 7:24:14 AM PST by lavaroise
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