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Why Europe Hates Israel
FREEMAN E-MAIL LIST ^ | November 29, 2001 | By Bret Stephens, an editorial page writer for The Wall Street Journal Europe.

Posted on 11/29/2001 3:56:50 PM PST by dennisw

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To: Mark17
I was at Greenham Common in 1984, helped with security.

Cheers Tony

241 posted on 12/03/2001 2:09:10 AM PST by tonycavanagh
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To: NixNatAVanG InDaBurgh
I have absolutely no idea what you are raving about.

Are you adding Pat Buchanan to the long list of people you hate? I voted for Bush.

242 posted on 12/03/2001 2:55:33 AM PST by Patria One
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To: Patria One
I have absolutely no idea what you are raving about.

YOU have absolutely no idea about what YOU'RE raving about. So why don't you shut up?

243 posted on 12/03/2001 3:06:11 AM PST by NixNatAVanG InDaBurgh
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To: Patria One
Here's a very Simple Question For You...

Patria One,

WHY DO YOU HATE THE JEWS AND HATE ISRAEL?

WHY?

244 posted on 12/03/2001 3:10:22 AM PST by Simcha7
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To: NixNatAVanG InDaBurgh; Patria One
Pick your terrorist group in any country you can find, and I will guarantee that the Saudis not only back them, they STARTED them.

And Patria not only worked, by her own admission, in Saudi for years, but still sounds like one. Hmmmmm.

245 posted on 12/03/2001 3:30:58 AM PST by Cachelot
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To: Simcha7
If you were paying attention, you'd absolutely know that I don't hate anyone, much less Jews or Israel.

I think political Zionism is a disaster that has recreated for the Palestinians what the Jews experienced in Europe.

I am appalled at their ingratitude towards the Palestinian people who allowed such a huge influx of refugees that no one else would acccept. I am sickened by the constant slaughter on both sides for the past 60 years.

The whole dynamic is shameful and disgusting to me. The intractible belligerence, the constant hateful rhetoric, the constant threat to tear down Al Haram Al Sharif, the covert meddling of the Mossad, the expansion of settlements on the West Bank and Gaza, the general aparthied, the constant whining about victimhood and scheming to get more money out of the US taxpayer, the imperialistic control of resources in my view is stupid and destructive... These behaviors would shame any group of people.

This same scenario between ANY two peoples of any religion would result in exactly what you have in Palestine in 2001.

Zionism has made a mess because there is no right way to do a wrong thing.

246 posted on 12/03/2001 3:39:13 AM PST by Patria One
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To: Cachelot
Why don't you put your money where your mouth is and ask JR to hold the stakes until all the evidence is in?
247 posted on 12/03/2001 3:49:13 AM PST by Patria One
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To: Patria One
there is no right way to do a wrong thing.

Which you and your Saudi Wannabes have consistently proven.

248 posted on 12/03/2001 4:08:08 AM PST by NixNatAVanG InDaBurgh
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To: Patria One
Why don't you put your money where your mouth is and ask JR to hold the stakes until all the evidence is in?

Money? Stakes? Did I make a bet, Patria? I've heard that the Saudis have a predilection for Vegas :). Myself, I never bet.

I can see one use for stakes in connection with the Saudis. It has nothing to do with bets ;).

249 posted on 12/03/2001 4:22:53 AM PST by Cachelot
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To: tonycavanagh
Tony- - I too live in Britain (yank abroad), the BBC is wildly anti-Israel. If you want me to start keeping 'score', as it were, and Freep mail you an account of their coverage and my opinion of how it is biased, I'd be more than happy to oblige.
250 posted on 12/03/2001 4:45:26 AM PST by mmmmmmmm....... donuts
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To: Patria One
I am appalled at their ingratitude towards the Palestinian people who allowed such a huge influx of refugees that no one else would acccept.

Honestly, do you really believe what you just wrote? The Palestinians didn't 'allow' anything. The Brits were in control, and the Palestinians tried to butcher the Jews returning (and sometimes succeeded--see Hebron, 1930, for an example). The de facto leader of the Palestinians was the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem (Arafat's uncle, if I'm not mistaken), who was literally a friend of Hitler and advocate of slaughtering Jews. He also is largely responsible for the Palestinian refugee situation in the first place--the Grand Mufti asked the Palestinians to leave their homes, to help the Arab armies to crush Israel.

251 posted on 12/03/2001 4:53:33 AM PST by mmmmmmmm....... donuts
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To: Patria One
If you were paying attention, you'd absolutely know that I don't hate anyone, much less Jews or Israel.

Every single thing you posted AFTER that statement is a lie, which makes THAT statement a lie. Patria, how do you sleep at night? With a scimitar under your pillow?

I think political Zionism is a disaster that has recreated for the Palestinians what the Jews experienced in Europe.

There ARE NO PALESTINIANS. Hitler repeated HIS big lie and you are rapidly catching up.

I am appalled at their ingratitude towards the Palestinian people who allowed such a huge influx of refugees that no one else would acccept.

Ingratitude? For importing an ARMY which has ravaged the entire Near East? For importing madmen and murderers that are paid to stay OUT of other Arab countries?
INGRATITUDE???
You are a defender of murderers who killed US and who would kill every single human being who does not agree with them...and I don't hate you. I despise you.

I am sickened by the constant slaughter on both sides for the past 60 years.

For which your Saudi piglets have forked over megabucks because all your kings' horses and all your kings' men, couldn't whip Israel time and again.

The whole dynamic is shameful and disgusting to me. The intractible belligerence,

Of an illegitimate gang of thugs claiming peoplehood...

the constant hateful rhetoric,

shouted from every loudspeaker from every mosque, written in every Arab newspaper, on every Arabic-owned television station

the constant threat to tear down Al Haram Al Sharif,

which is as illegitimate as the people who claim it since the Mad Prophet only supposedly visited there in a dream. Sounds like an older incarnation of Mullah Omar.
I don't suppose it matters that they are using it to destroy Hebrew antiquities and destabilizing not only the Western Wall but their own structure as well and blaming it on the Israelis.

the covert meddling of the Mossad,

To rid the world of sadistic, brutal suicide bombers and planners that YOU defend...

the expansion of settlements on the West Bank and Gaza,

which is PART of Israel thanks to your Arab countries who couldn't run a war when they had to FACE Israel. So now they do what Islam has always done best. They terrorize.

the general aparthied,

NOT for ISRAELI Arabs. You lie again. Separating from terrorists is not apartheid. It is a shield against murder and mayhem. Unfortunately, BECAUSE there is no *general* apartheid, there are Arabs in the Knesset who carry information to the very groups who rave on and on about overflowing the desert with a lake of Israeli blood.

the constant whining about victimhood and scheming to get more money out of the US taxpayer,

You will have to take that up with CAIR and the CINC. I am getting tired of it my own self.

the imperialistic control of resources

which just happen to belong to their owners. Israel. The Jihadists had it ALL. The blew it, lost it, and that is something that is THEIR fault, not Israel's. Unless you simply expected Israel to allow its own destruction...

in my view is stupid and destructive... These behaviors would shame any group of people.

Then why aren't you ashamed? That is your only claim, you know...and it IS stupid. The truth WILL be, whether your view is bass ackwards or not.

This same scenario between ANY two peoples of any religion would result in exactly what you have in Palestine in 2001.

Pardon me? Who is it that won't allow Christians into Bethlehem at Christmas? Who is it that insists on building a mosque which overshadows the Church of the Ascension? It ain't the Jews. Hint....Christians were not allowed into the Old City under Islam either. Get your lies straight.

Zionism has made a mess because there is no right way to do a wrong thing.

See Post 248.

252 posted on 12/03/2001 5:04:09 AM PST by NixNatAVanG InDaBurgh
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To: AGAviator
There are more and more people starting to get an active dislike for Amreica believing it can do whatever it pleases anywhere and escape the consequences because it has better weapons.

Sooooo you are anti-Israel AND anti-America too. Interesting.

253 posted on 12/03/2001 5:28:58 AM PST by veronica
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To: dennisw; tonycavanagh
Basically these sorts of threads are garbage.

First you have to buy into the propaganda that "Europe Hates Israel".

Does this serve some particular purpose in the Zionist cause?

254 posted on 12/03/2001 5:35:27 AM PST by Patria One
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To: NixNatAVanG InDaBurgh
Read "From Time Immemorial". 50% of Zionism is just the ingathering of MidEast Jews to Israel. Forget this nonsense about Zion just being a European project. This is a lie.
255 posted on 12/03/2001 6:30:24 AM PST by dennisw
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To: mmmmmmmm....... donuts
Well I am more than Happy to hear about this basis, I watch the evening news and all I ever see is reports and who is doing what to who.<p.Cheers Tony
256 posted on 12/03/2001 6:52:57 AM PST by tonycavanagh
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To: dennisw
Dennis, I know that. 'tis a pity that more people do not understand what Zionism really is and stop equating it with a Nazi-like movement. We have been scattered, through no fault of our own, all over the world.

Zionism is the modern expression of the ancient Jewish heritage.

Zionism is the national liberation movement of a people exiled from its historic homeland and dispersed among the nations of the world.

Zionism is the redemption of an ancient nation from a tragic lot and the redemption of a land neglected for centuries.

Zionism is the revival of an ancient language and culture, in which the vision of universal peace has been a central theme.

Zionism is the embodiment of a unique pioneering spirit, of the dignity of labour, and of enduring human values.

Zionism is creating a society, however imperfect it may still be, which tries to implement the highest ideals of democracy--political social and cultural--for all the inhabitants of Israel, irrespective of religious belief, race or sex.

Zionism is, in sum, the constant and unrelenting effort to realize the national and universal vision of the prophets of Israel.

AMEN!

257 posted on 12/03/2001 7:00:24 AM PST by NixNatAVanG InDaBurgh
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To: Patria One
"Basically these sorts of threads are garbage."

But then how would you earn your thirty pieces of silver?

258 posted on 12/03/2001 7:02:15 AM PST by NixNatAVanG InDaBurgh
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To: tonycavanagh
I was at Greenham Common in 1984, helped with security.

I was there in 1983. I used to get a kick out of all those peace mongering ladies outside the gate. The ones who were killing off the rabbit population around Greenham Common. If you were in security, maybe you heard about that guy who got through and ran his car across the runway, toward a C-5 sitting on the ramp, in Nov of 83? I was in the Control Tower when it happened. That C-5 had just landed, and was delivering the first ground launched cruise missile parts to Greenham Common. This was just a few weeks after the Marine barracks was bombed in Beirut, so we thought his car was full of explosives. It was not, however, but if I remember right, it was a young US Air Force security policeman, who rammed the guy, and stopped him.

259 posted on 12/03/2001 7:13:40 AM PST by Mark17
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To: tonycavanagh
well, proof is in the pudding. next time i'm watching bbc i'll jot down a few notes and we can converse.
260 posted on 12/03/2001 7:15:54 AM PST by mmmmmmmm....... donuts
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