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Is Free Republic a Fraud? Is it time for Free Republic to go away?
Free Republic | 11/28/01 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 11/28/2001 7:31:29 PM PST by Jim Robinson

Free Republic has had one helluva run over the last five years or so. We helped impeach one president and helped get another into office. We've been active in demonstrations and protests in nearly every city across the nation. We've participated in conventions, petition drives, activism campaigns and projects for dozens of conservative causes.

We've grown from a tiny web site with a few hundred posters and readers from the time of inception in 1996, to one with tens of thousands of participants today. Along the way we've made lots of great friends and, unfortunately, also made lots of bitter enemies.

We've grown from a small web site that I could manage myself on a part-time basis to a huge monster that has totally consumed all of my time and resources plus nearly all of John's time, plus the time and resources of many dedicated FReepers who volunteer or contribute large amounts of their own time and money.

The site is now consuming all of a 10 mbps dedicated line with two servers and we're still growing, and it consumes large amounts of money to keep all this running. In the early years, it only took a few thousand dollars per month to keep Free Republic on the air, but it is now costing over $20,000 per month to cover all expenses.

The major costs include approximately $8,000 per month for bandwidth, 3,000 for systems management and programming services, 7,000 for management, operating and administrative services, plus two or three thousand per month for miscellaneous office expenses, telephone, communications, repairs & maintenance, travel & lodging, postage, rentals, insurance, legal fees, accounting fees, etc., etc.

We anticipate a reduction in bandwidth costs next year as we renegotiate our contract (the market price for bandwidth has fallen recently), however, that will be more than offset by an expected increase in costs of our legal expenses. As most of you know, our pro bono attorney has left us and we've hired a new attorney to continue with our case, plus we have the suit against eschoir to pay for. My projections are that our regular monthly expenses for next year will be running in the neighborhood of $22,000 per month, or approximately $264,000 total for the year. This means we will need to raise approximately $66,000 per quarter.

Talking about making enemies, we've got several ex-FReepers and other detractors who are claiming on their anti-freeper web sites that I am ripping off the donors and that Free Republic is a fraud. Now, Free Republic is what it is, and it is definitely not a fraud. It is a conservative news discussion forum that encourages participation in politics and activism projects. It is not being billed as anything else. We are not selling or promising anything. And I am being up front about our operating costs. The costs of running Free Republic are what I've stated above and they are necessary to keep FR on the air. I do not have the financial wherewithal to operate this site without your help. If the majority of the FReepers feel that these costs are out of line or too much to bear or that Free Republic is no longer wanted or needed, then we will either cut it back or shut it down or do something altogether different.

I've also been criticized about not making our financials public. Well, the reason I do not want to do this is that I have been sued, both personally and as Free Republic, LLC. The people suing us want to bankrupt us and shut us down. They subpoenaed our financial records, but we refused to turn them over. The judge agreed that the plaintiffs have no right to the information, thus I have no intention of making any more of it public than I absolutely have to, until this lawsuit is resolved. You all know the amounts of money we raise if you follow the fundraising threads. It is all above board and out in the open. The totals posted by BadJoe are usually pretty close to the actual cash received and the amounts expended are pretty close to the amounts projected. No one is getting rich here and no one is being ripped off. The funds raised are being used for the purposes stated, and that is keeping this website on the air and that's it. Nothing fraudulent about it. Those who want to help fund us freely do so with nothing expected in return. Those who do not want to contribute do not have to.

There was a thread running this morning where people were making all kinds of accusations about Free Republic "hiding the truth" or whatever. These accusations are being made by Chuck Allan and others and fall along the same line with the accusations being made by some of the earlier banees or AFers including Mojo, Inspector Harry Callahan, Arator, keep U.S. Sovereign, TKEman and others. Some of these people are existing FReepers and some are banned. I am going to reinstate Mojo, Inspector Harry Callahan and Arator's accounts so they can join Chuck Allan, TKEman, K.U.S.S. and whomever else wants to get involved, and I invite them to come onto this thread and make their accusations public. As long as they do not go onto other threads and make a nuisance of themselves, I will let them have their say.

Like I said above, if it is time for Free Republic to go away so be it. Those who want to keep it going speak up. Those who want it to go away, tell us why. But if those who want it to be gone lose out in the debate, then I'd say they should just go away themselves, or, in the very least, shut up and quit whining about it.

Thanks,

Jim


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To: Howlin
At Least $2,400.00 from 44 Freepers and Lurkers has cvome in tonight. I'll get it sorted out tomorrow. We got a lot of new monthlies. More than half the contributions have been from Freepers and Lurkers that I am seeing for the first time.

Thank you all.

Eagles Up and Goodnight.

701 posted on 11/28/2001 11:17:15 PM PST by BADJOE
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To: aligyrl-02; Eschoir
Link

This is the beginning of "fat" tax preparation, "fat" tax coming right after alcohol taxes.

43 Posted on 05/09/2000 23:44:10 PDT by aligyrl-02
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Oh, my sides!
702 posted on 11/28/2001 11:17:26 PM PST by FR Truth Teller
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To: BADJOE
Ask and ye shall receive.
703 posted on 11/28/2001 11:17:58 PM PST by Howlin
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To: redrock
Redrock they don't grind me down, they just make me fight harder. Let's GETTEM.
704 posted on 11/28/2001 11:18:05 PM PST by pattycake
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To: nopardons
they either act like a bunch of Uriah Heaps...

Oh, brother...if that's what they are acting like, I shall keep thick earplugs by the computer. Made of lead. (As I remember, Uriah Heep was one band which made the like of Black Sabbath sound like a string quartet, volume-wise...)
705 posted on 11/28/2001 11:19:33 PM PST by BluesDuke
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To: JohnHuang2
thats more than 2 cents worth!
706 posted on 11/28/2001 11:19:39 PM PST by GeronL
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To: Howlin
No I haven't. The saying, for me, comes from an old Nam buddy who used to say, "Haven't had so much fun since the hogs ate my little brother."
707 posted on 11/28/2001 11:19:44 PM PST by leadpenny
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To: GeronL
Gracias, amigo =^)
708 posted on 11/28/2001 11:20:17 PM PST by JohnHuang2
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To: Notwithstanding
Who is Eschoir? A disgrunteld FReeper? Details?

These will fill you in:

Free Republic v. Aldridge - FR Motion for Preliminary Injunction

Free Republic v. Aldridge:Federal Court Issues Permanent Injunction Against Thomas Chappell Aldridge

709 posted on 11/28/2001 11:20:25 PM PST by malakhi
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To: Jim Robinson; A.J.Armitage
Jim,

I assume I've been granted momentary amnesty from whatever offense I committed approximately 48 hours ago.

Free Republic is not a fraud. However, I do feel uncomfortable about donating any more money at this time. I'm afraid I share many of A.J.'s sentiments.

Best wishes,

Tauzero

710 posted on 11/28/2001 11:20:38 PM PST by Tauzero
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To: leadpenny
On the Night the Hogs Ate Willie : And Other Quotations on All Things Southern
711 posted on 11/28/2001 11:22:02 PM PST by Howlin
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To: leadpenny
leadpenny, check out Jim's remarks in post #612 ;^)
712 posted on 11/28/2001 11:22:04 PM PST by JohnHuang2
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To: GeronL
ARATOR HAD TO CLOSE IT DOWN AND NOW ITS A TROLL TOWN AND A DEAD MUSEUM! lol
713 posted on 11/28/2001 11:22:12 PM PST by TLBSHOW
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To: Jim Robinson
I consider FR to be a valuable internet news source. I do not find it a fraud in any way, and would be sad to see it discontinued.
714 posted on 11/28/2001 11:22:18 PM PST by Silverdrake
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To: leadpenny
these hogs sound mean, I saw Babe!!, you think you know a mammal!
715 posted on 11/28/2001 11:22:36 PM PST by GeronL
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To: Howlin
And despite being called by a personal friend of his within the first two hours that the person was pretending to be me and being ASSURED that it wasn't me, Arator let it go on for almost two whole days, pretending he didn't know whether it was me or not. He knew for a fact that is wasn't me, but he let them all go crazy for almost two days.

Howlin, I believe that mutual personal friend of ours would take issue with your account, as I do, for it is not true.

He is a liar and a fraud.

And, it's dear, dear FReepers like you that will make me not miss this place at all. Thanks for curing me of my FR obsession.

716 posted on 11/28/2001 11:22:47 PM PST by Arator
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To: Howlin
I have never been able to master those microphone chats.......

Microphone chats...hah, try HTML on a several second refresh, at best Java chat, that computer would never have been able to keep up with everything using a mic. What happened was that we listened to Rush on the radio and chatted about it in "realtime". It was quite an event everyday and well behaved too.

718 posted on 11/28/2001 11:23:51 PM PST by this_ol_patriot
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To: Arator
Howlin, I believe that mutual personal friend of ours would take issue with your account, as I do, for it is not true.

You're saying that you didn't know within hours that it wasn't me?

719 posted on 11/28/2001 11:24:14 PM PST by Howlin
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To: Arator
And, it's dear, dear FReepers like you that will make me not miss this place at all. Thanks for curing me of my FR obsession.

You are a liar and a fraud. And I'm certainly not the first or last one that will say it, even on your own site.

I wish I thought you WERE cured of your FR obsession. That's something I'd really be proud of, to rid this place of you and your ilk.

BTW, if you're cured, why are you here? Just couldn't resist posting your thoughts ONE MORE TIME?

Go on back over there with Eschoir where you belong.

720 posted on 11/28/2001 11:26:35 PM PST by Howlin
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