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Is Free Republic a Fraud? Is it time for Free Republic to go away?
Free Republic | 11/28/01 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 11/28/2001 7:31:29 PM PST by Jim Robinson

Free Republic has had one helluva run over the last five years or so. We helped impeach one president and helped get another into office. We've been active in demonstrations and protests in nearly every city across the nation. We've participated in conventions, petition drives, activism campaigns and projects for dozens of conservative causes.

We've grown from a tiny web site with a few hundred posters and readers from the time of inception in 1996, to one with tens of thousands of participants today. Along the way we've made lots of great friends and, unfortunately, also made lots of bitter enemies.

We've grown from a small web site that I could manage myself on a part-time basis to a huge monster that has totally consumed all of my time and resources plus nearly all of John's time, plus the time and resources of many dedicated FReepers who volunteer or contribute large amounts of their own time and money.

The site is now consuming all of a 10 mbps dedicated line with two servers and we're still growing, and it consumes large amounts of money to keep all this running. In the early years, it only took a few thousand dollars per month to keep Free Republic on the air, but it is now costing over $20,000 per month to cover all expenses.

The major costs include approximately $8,000 per month for bandwidth, 3,000 for systems management and programming services, 7,000 for management, operating and administrative services, plus two or three thousand per month for miscellaneous office expenses, telephone, communications, repairs & maintenance, travel & lodging, postage, rentals, insurance, legal fees, accounting fees, etc., etc.

We anticipate a reduction in bandwidth costs next year as we renegotiate our contract (the market price for bandwidth has fallen recently), however, that will be more than offset by an expected increase in costs of our legal expenses. As most of you know, our pro bono attorney has left us and we've hired a new attorney to continue with our case, plus we have the suit against eschoir to pay for. My projections are that our regular monthly expenses for next year will be running in the neighborhood of $22,000 per month, or approximately $264,000 total for the year. This means we will need to raise approximately $66,000 per quarter.

Talking about making enemies, we've got several ex-FReepers and other detractors who are claiming on their anti-freeper web sites that I am ripping off the donors and that Free Republic is a fraud. Now, Free Republic is what it is, and it is definitely not a fraud. It is a conservative news discussion forum that encourages participation in politics and activism projects. It is not being billed as anything else. We are not selling or promising anything. And I am being up front about our operating costs. The costs of running Free Republic are what I've stated above and they are necessary to keep FR on the air. I do not have the financial wherewithal to operate this site without your help. If the majority of the FReepers feel that these costs are out of line or too much to bear or that Free Republic is no longer wanted or needed, then we will either cut it back or shut it down or do something altogether different.

I've also been criticized about not making our financials public. Well, the reason I do not want to do this is that I have been sued, both personally and as Free Republic, LLC. The people suing us want to bankrupt us and shut us down. They subpoenaed our financial records, but we refused to turn them over. The judge agreed that the plaintiffs have no right to the information, thus I have no intention of making any more of it public than I absolutely have to, until this lawsuit is resolved. You all know the amounts of money we raise if you follow the fundraising threads. It is all above board and out in the open. The totals posted by BadJoe are usually pretty close to the actual cash received and the amounts expended are pretty close to the amounts projected. No one is getting rich here and no one is being ripped off. The funds raised are being used for the purposes stated, and that is keeping this website on the air and that's it. Nothing fraudulent about it. Those who want to help fund us freely do so with nothing expected in return. Those who do not want to contribute do not have to.

There was a thread running this morning where people were making all kinds of accusations about Free Republic "hiding the truth" or whatever. These accusations are being made by Chuck Allan and others and fall along the same line with the accusations being made by some of the earlier banees or AFers including Mojo, Inspector Harry Callahan, Arator, keep U.S. Sovereign, TKEman and others. Some of these people are existing FReepers and some are banned. I am going to reinstate Mojo, Inspector Harry Callahan and Arator's accounts so they can join Chuck Allan, TKEman, K.U.S.S. and whomever else wants to get involved, and I invite them to come onto this thread and make their accusations public. As long as they do not go onto other threads and make a nuisance of themselves, I will let them have their say.

Like I said above, if it is time for Free Republic to go away so be it. Those who want to keep it going speak up. Those who want it to go away, tell us why. But if those who want it to be gone lose out in the debate, then I'd say they should just go away themselves, or, in the very least, shut up and quit whining about it.

Thanks,

Jim


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To: Arator
Why does this guy's name always bring to mind a machine full of air bubbles?
2,001 posted on 11/29/2001 5:11:30 PM PST by Palladin
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To: an amused spectator
you certainly turned dumb quick when harrowup dropped oldtimer/insider references

Not "turned dumb" -- "GOT BORED"! harrowup's mad ravings make my eyes glaze over.

2,002 posted on 11/29/2001 5:13:34 PM PST by Arator
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To: Inspector Harry Callahan
Isn't your time up yet, Harry? (checking watch, tapping foot).
2,003 posted on 11/29/2001 5:13:49 PM PST by WVNan
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To: Torie
Please email me at aratorfr@yahoo.com. It's important for you to be plugged into the email FReeper grapevine, as FReepers who ask excellent and probing questions have been known to just suddenly disappear (and not of their own choosing). If I have your email addy, at least I can throw you a lifeline should you ever need it and save you from FReeper oblivion.

Is that the absolute HEIGHT of self-fawning or what?

2,004 posted on 11/29/2001 5:13:52 PM PST by Howlin
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To: Howlin
You'd think they would, wouldn't you? I mean, as soon as Jim said he would let them back on, here they were

It's called lack of self-control and at the same time, faulting the provider of the service of which they cannot control themselves. In other words, a play for attention...

2,005 posted on 11/29/2001 5:14:00 PM PST by Fury
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To: Cataclysmic Kansan
Post # 1969 (1969!!! That was some fun year for me. I was 19 years old, owned a VW bug and worked as a bouncer in the Hampton Bays. Free booze and braods!!!)

"What's with the never ending Blame Clinton for everything crowd? Also, what kind of Conservative news forum goes rah, rah, kill 'em all, and agrees to every bit of restrictive legislation passed or considered. Get a grip people.'

Let me tell you something Cataclysmic Kansan, it's independent thoughts such as yours that attract hordes of Republican harpies. They're quick with the abuse button and in time you'll probably be banished to the outermost ring of the internet.

If you want to stay safe, remember these axioms; Libertarians aren't wacky because they espouse open borders and free dope. Likewise, Republicans aren't week-kneed jellyfish...

2,006 posted on 11/29/2001 5:17:43 PM PST by Jethro Tull
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To: Fury
Also known as attempting to get the record set straight. You see, when one is banned and questions are asked about the banned user, sometimes the replies are laughably in error. Some attempts were made to straighten out the errors today, or did you miss that?
2,008 posted on 11/29/2001 5:19:14 PM PST by Inspector Harry Callahan
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To: OkieGrit2
Once you begin silencing your opposition there is little left to debate.

Hence, the dull as dust moonscape FR has become, except for this thread, that is. LOL.

2,009 posted on 11/29/2001 5:20:23 PM PST by Arator
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To: Inspector Harry Callahan
With every post you puke, you prove anew JimRob's wisdom in giving you the bum's rush out the door.
2,010 posted on 11/29/2001 5:21:59 PM PST by Kevin Curry
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To: Arator
What a deal, huh? We get mentioned in an article that was posted on Free Republic. We then get invited back to FR by the OWNER of the site.

Somehow, this gets translated into a ploy for attention. ROFL!!

2,011 posted on 11/29/2001 5:23:38 PM PST by Inspector Harry Callahan
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To: Inspector Harry Callahan
One could not miss that, as you and others have so pointedly remarked throughout this thread on what is wrong with FR. We'll leave it to others to remark on what is right about Free Republic.

In time, people will have their full measure of people who are claiming to be concerned about FR, when I suspect they just want attention on FR.

2,013 posted on 11/29/2001 5:24:34 PM PST by Fury
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To: BRL
I think their loss was THE BIG LOSS to this forum. And it was the underlying reason's for their going that was the big loss.

Well, I miss them, too (especially Mojo), and said so at the time of their departure; but there was more involved in it than your Exodus 101 suggests (maybe you've expanded it as I write). Jim made a fool of himself re Bush, granted, but that was just a part of a bundle of gripes (and to me Jim is just another poster, and his comments did not influence the site in any practical way: it was solid for Bush). The "crisis" involved problems larger than the election; in fact, although The Case of IHC is pretty silly, the issue is the same: decorum. At the time of the tempest in the FR teapot Jim's notions du jour co-incided with a series of racist and anti-homosexual rants; Rivero held forth at length; A+Bert was embraced. Flame wars and general disarray.

So "good" people left, but the valid gripes they had (their "big reasons" for the "big loss") have been pretty much dealt with.

Big deal.

2,016 posted on 11/29/2001 5:26:58 PM PST by alcuin
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To: Howlin
Is that the absolute HEIGHT of self-fawning or what?

Whatever the height of my self-fawning, it hardly compares to the fawning attentions you have given me today. How many consecutive posts must a female FReeper make to a FReeper star such as myself before she becomes his groupie?

LOL. Now, THAT is the hieght of insufferable self-fawning (and self-parody). LOL.

2,017 posted on 11/29/2001 5:27:09 PM PST by Arator
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To: one_particular_harbour
OPH, LOL!
2,018 posted on 11/29/2001 5:27:35 PM PST by WIMom
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To: A Navy Vet
Okay Steve, here is your big chance to finally nail JR & FR. I'm sure you have some stong rebuttals in your archives. Let's see some proof to back up your dozens of accusations at other sites. I stated my criticisms here some time ago. Got balls?

That's my question, too. The answer is, clearly, no. I'd love to meet this punk, and watch him fall into a quivering fearful mass of shaking cowardice. It's clear he hasn't the courage of a 9 year old boy.

2,019 posted on 11/29/2001 5:28:48 PM PST by Lazamataz
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To: Inspector Harry Callahan
Somehow, this gets translated into a ploy for attention. ROFL!!

Yes, it does, when one poster says they have no intention of posting further. Of course, that was 40+ posts ago.

If that is not a play for attention and lack of self-control, then there is something amiss.

2,020 posted on 11/29/2001 5:29:23 PM PST by Fury
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