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U.S. to purchase 500 million Smallpox Vaccine Doses
DEBKAfile,AFP Wire, Drudge Report and World Net Daily ^ | November 28, 2001 | Terrorism Security Newsletter

Posted on 11/28/2001 10:36:47 AM PST by umbra

No story for the evening update yet, just the headline..but I did find an interesting Agence France Presse wire article that says that the contract according to USA Today (now on Durdge) has an 'option' clause for an extra order of 250 million.

This is in addition to the first order for every man woman and child in the United States.


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To: umbra
I believe that children had stopped testing around 1972
I heard on the news last night that even those who have had the vaccnine are in jeaopardy because too many years have gone by for them to be effective any longer. I can attest to that concept: although I had a measles vaccincation in elementary school, I contracted them as an adult. Very ill and painful.

BTW, I hope our overseas SOURCE for these additional vaccines doses is reliable.

81 posted on 11/28/2001 1:49:08 PM PST by Libertina
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To: Sunshine Patriot
Maybe I'm confusing it with the anthrax vaccine.

I think you are.

83 posted on 11/28/2001 2:28:45 PM PST by Ditto
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To: elfman2
I see you're too new to have taken part in the Great Anthrax Panic here around October 8th. It was fueled by a few newbies (like you) who signed on October 4th and 5th, and were banned within a week.

That seems a bit unfriendly to me.

84 posted on 11/28/2001 3:11:33 PM PST by TheLooseThread
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To: Sunshine Patriot
I haven't heard anything about needing more than one dose, in the reading I've done. Back in the old days (when I was young!) we only received one dose that I can remember. Unless things are different with the modern version, that is. Maybe others can confirm, as I see someone has already.
85 posted on 11/28/2001 3:14:38 PM PST by texasbluebell
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To: texasbluebell
They give you one dose... if it takes and makes a scar, then OK. After the waiting period (of 2 weeks I think) if it doesn't take and make a scar, they give you another shot to make sure. I guess if that doesn't get a scar reaction, you must have been immune to begin with.
86 posted on 11/28/2001 3:35:11 PM PST by piasa
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To: umbra
I've done a lot of reading on the smallpox threat. These are my best guesses:

Al-Quada doesn't have it or we'd already have people dying of it.

Saddam Hussein DOES have it.

We have allies and if we have smallpox vaccine and they don't, we can certainly get a lot of diplomatic traction that way. I guarantee you this: the Third World is going to shrink dramatically if smallpox is let loose again. Can you imagine anyone with early AIDS fighting off a disease that is 30% fatal in relatively healthy people? No way. Say goodbye to much of Africa, Asia, even China if China doesn't close its borders (and I suspect they would.)

I agree that Saddam Hussein is crazy enough to do it, too--and Israel will be glad to take care of THAT problem from there. Can you say "cope with fallout and smallpox at the same time"? Yet it's not the end of the world. Hole up with your family if smallpox starts hitting, get your vaccine, roll up your sleeves, and be prepared to dig this country back out of the ashes. 'Cuz we'll be in the best position then.
87 posted on 11/28/2001 3:46:30 PM PST by ChemistCat
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To: Alas
My son said the same thing about the anthrax vac. When infections started occuring he suddenly didn't mind that he had taken it. Maybe it was the "had to" thing.
88 posted on 11/28/2001 4:18:12 PM PST by CindyDawg
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To: umbra
Why are we buying 500 million doses when there are only 285 million people in the US? I hope we are not planning to subsidize vaccines to the rest of the world.
89 posted on 11/28/2001 4:25:20 PM PST by Brilliant
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To: umbra
Wednesday November 28 6:51 PM ET

Feds to Buy 155 Million Smallpox Vaccine Doses

By Lisa Richwine

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The U.S. government said Wednesday it ordered 155 million smallpox vaccine doses from Acambis Plc and Baxter International Inc. to place in a stockpile to defend against potential bioterror weapons.

The companies, working as a joint venture, will produce the shots for $428 million with delivery expected by early or late fall of next year, Health and Human Services (news - web sites) Secretary Tommy Thompson announced. The cost per dose is $2.76.

The supplies will help the government stockpile enough doses to immunize each American if needed against what experts call one of the most frightening biological agents, Thompson said.

The United States has a previous order from Acambis for 54 million doses and is testing whether it can dilute older vaccine stocks. Once completed, the nation's stockpile will include 286 million smallpox vaccine doses, Thompson said.

``We should, at this time next year, have enough vaccine in stock to protect all Americans,'' Thompson told reporters during a telephone briefing.

``We also hope that increasing our smallpox vaccine stockpile would serve as a deterrent to any individual terrorist who might be considering using smallpox as a weapon,'' he added.

U.S. health officials began accelerating efforts to prepare for a smallpox attack after the Sept. 11 hijacking attacks and amid five deaths from inhaled anthrax since early October.

Officials said they do not plan a mass immunization program at the present time but want to be prepared to minimize the spread if a smallpox outbreak occurs.

``The probability of an intentional release of the smallpox virus is low, but the risk does exist and we must be prepared,'' Thompson said.

Highly contagious, smallpox kills about 30 percent of its victims and leaves others disfigured. There is no effective treatment once someone falls ill, but giving a vaccine in the days immediately following exposure can prevent illness.

The illness was declared eradicated worldwide in 1980, marking one of the greatest successes in modern medicine. The United States and Russia keep the only official supplies of the smallpox virus, but experts fear other countries or groups may have access to the agent and could unleash it as a weapon.

Routine smallpox vaccination in the United States ended in 1972, and officials are hesitant to resume the immunizations because the shots have been linked to serious side effects, including deaths.

Experts believe immunity to smallpox likely has worn off for people vaccinated before 1972.

Scientists are testing 15.4 million doses they have held since 1983 to see whether they can dilute them to 77 million doses.

As the newer vaccine becomes available, officials would tap those supplies first before using the older version as a backup, said Dr. Donald Henderson, a top bioterrorism adviser to Thompson and the man who led the effort that wiped out smallpox.

Acambis, based in Cambridge, England, and Baxter, based in Deerfield, Illinois, beat out rival bids from drug giants GlaxoSmithKline Plc and Merck and Co Inc.

Under the arrangement, Baxter will produce bulk vaccine at a facility in Europe and Acambis will refine and process the material at a plant in Massachusetts, Acambis spokeswoman Lyndsay Wright said.

Clinical trials of the vaccine are scheduled to start early next year, Acambis said.


91 posted on 11/28/2001 4:48:43 PM PST by deport
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To: Brilliant
I can think of several possible reasons:

1) Possible need for boosters for American citizens, whether newly vaccinated under 30 years of age or previously vaccinated but immunological status uncertain

2) Extra vaccine for our immediate neighbors, Canada and Mexico, with American interests at heart, and rightfully so

3) Extra vaccine to quell fires elsewhere in the world (an airplane is an awesomely efficient disease vector)

4) Extra in case our supply is comprised in some way, whether through human error, theft, sabotage, whatever...

I think it's a prudent approach to take. Besides, who knows how many people are really in this country?? Perhaps The Shadow do, but the gubmint don't.

92 posted on 11/28/2001 5:21:59 PM PST by DC native
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To: tallhappy
....Anyways, it is a good idea to do this and I believe we should begin standard vaccinations again like we did for centuries as a precaution.

Thanks for the very thoughtful reply, tallhappy. I thought as much...or at least along those lines, but it was good to read such a terrific, well reasoned response.

93 posted on 11/28/2001 5:24:47 PM PST by Republic
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To: TheLooseThread
"That seems a bit unfriendly to me."

[smile]

94 posted on 11/28/2001 5:39:01 PM PST by elfman2
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To: DC native
Maybe smallpox is destined to go where AIDS failed to decimate enough of the world's population. Of all the world's diseases, the selective paranoia is more indicative of a plan, than a fear.

Remember that all the anti-terrorism legislation was written long before 9-11.

Check out the proposed "Emergency Health Powers" legislation.

Sounds as though the powers-that-be are cornering the market on the vaccine. That's a lot of global political leverage.
95 posted on 11/28/2001 6:17:36 PM PST by fliberman
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To: umbra
It appears that the government believes it to be very likely to occurr with all the preparations underway.

Looks like we need to lock down even more, place militia on standby!

Begin local organizational preparations for what if scenarios.
96 posted on 11/28/2001 7:25:41 PM PST by Soul Citizen
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To: Nita Nupress
Forced Vaccinations Jeff Rense interviews Dr. Len Horowitz RealPlayer required
97 posted on 11/28/2001 8:48:55 PM PST by expose
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To: Stevieboy
I'm guessing like polio a small fraction of a percentage would be susceptible to catching the full blown version.
98 posted on 11/28/2001 9:37:54 PM PST by Bogey78O
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To: ikanakattara
**Even if we DID bomb the offending country into glass, we'd still have to deal with the potential serious consequences of a smallpox epidemic.**

These would be, from what i can imagine, the collapse of the u.s. and world economies (as the disease is spread worldwide by airplane travellers by the time they catch on), poverty in the u.s. on a scale certainly not seen since the depression and possibly much worse, with the civil unrest the goes along, the collapse of the major world financial markets with the associated 'issues' that would bring along, including possibly the insolvency of most major u.s clearing firms and banks(when your large customers are instantly wiped out and then quite a bit, you go under. Long Term Capital could have taken a major clearing firm under if the fed had not intervened), presumably banks might not open at all, even though the feds wont have to ban gold coin (an asset that survives governments) and certificates since they are not in ready circulation anymore. If smallpox was put out there in any of the not hard-to-imagine ways that cause it to be all over the country/world in a very short period of time, i firmly believe our way of life will be gone to a degree i find almost unimaginable.

I would assume the extra hundreds of millions of doses of smallpox are for either redundancy in storage inthe u.s. OR to be able to give to bordering allies so they dont invade (mexico) when faced with a catastrophic epidemic and no medicine.

99 posted on 11/28/2001 11:11:48 PM PST by WoofDog123
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To: tallhappy
How old are you? Over 30? If so you got one.

Bingo, you got it, I've had mine.

100 posted on 11/29/2001 4:47:35 AM PST by Alas
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