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Americans want a war on Iraq and we can't stop them
The Guardian (U.K.) ^
| 11/27/2001
| Hugo Young
Posted on 11/26/2001 8:53:41 PM PST by Pokey78
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To quote Mel Brooks in "History of the World. Part 1"..."It's good to be the King!"
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posted on
11/26/2001 8:53:41 PM PST
by
Pokey78
To: Pokey78
Dear Mr. Young:
P*** off.
We don't care what you think.
Regards,
L
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posted on
11/26/2001 8:57:04 PM PST
by
Lurker
To: Pokey78
ok. We have saved their asses in TWO count them TWO world wars, and stood with them on the Falklands war against those known terrorists, the Argentinians, trying to make the world safe for sheepherders and penguins.
F*** them...next war, they are on their own if they puss out on this one.
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posted on
11/26/2001 9:00:58 PM PST
by
Keith
To: Pokey78
isn't a totally off-base article...
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posted on
11/26/2001 9:02:06 PM PST
by
Shuhite
To: Pokey78
to the author of that article:
i would suggest, if these other countries were being sent anthrax & being threatened with major catastrophies every other week, they might also sing a different tune!!
To: Pokey78
Translation...waaaaaahhh...we were much happier when WE were the world power and the world had to answer to Britain...waaaaahhhhh.
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posted on
11/26/2001 9:03:16 PM PST
by
Keith
To: Pokey78
Well, Saddam should have been finished off ten years ago, but wasn't.
I hear people here and see written speculation we should hit Iraq and/or Pakistan. Is there to be a war with the entire Islamic world?
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posted on
11/26/2001 9:05:00 PM PST
by
RLK
To: Pokey78
Bush's slavering passion for specific eliminations. The president is mobilising an American national will such as we have not recently seen"Slayvering Passion"
Starring: George W. Bush, Donald Rumsfeld, Paul Wolfowitz, Osama bin Laden, Mullah "Cyclops" Omar, and the lovable "Northern Alliance"
Be sure not to miss the memorable performance by the United States Air Force, which is sure to win a Rummy for "best supporting airstrikes"
Tune in next week for a very special episode, "Slayvering Passion: Return to Darul Harb", guest starring Saddam Hussein, Tariq Aziz, and the Iraqi opposition which we betrayed last time.
"Slayvering Passion 3: The Terrorists Strike Back" has been postponed indefinitely.
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posted on
11/26/2001 9:06:48 PM PST
by
xm177e2
To: Keith; MadIvan
Calm down, Keith. The Guardian speaks for damn few Brits and certainly NOT for PM Blair.
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posted on
11/26/2001 9:08:03 PM PST
by
onyx
To: Pokey78
Europeans should reflect on this as a measure of the hard-eyed national commitment that differentiates the American mood from that of any other country. This, rather than the diplomatic niceties of coalition building, will mainly determine what happens next. That's right. Now don't p*ss us off.
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posted on
11/26/2001 9:09:33 PM PST
by
mlo
To: Pokey78
We'd have to lose a helluva lot of freedoms to be on par with the UK. For this knucklehead to even touch this issue shows his lack of knowledge or objectiviry. Isn't it funny that one of the initial suspects in causing/at the center of the uprising in the mazar fort yesterday was a Guardian UK reporter.
To: Pokey78
The big war should be a internal one. We must champion energy independance. Freedom from Middle Eastern dependancy will go far in solving our problems. As well as threats/actions of destruction, cutting off the oil tap could grind our ecomony and way of life to a halt. The Arabs have little revenue sources other than oil. Cut off the money and cut off the threats. Much better and cheaper than troops and bombs.
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posted on
11/26/2001 9:19:26 PM PST
by
TUX
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To: Pokey78
One proof of this is what encroachments on their liberties Americans are willing to put up with. Protests against the repressive gospel according to the attorney general, John Ashcroft, are few and far between. A country that guards its constitutional freedoms with meticulous passion is prepared to surrender them with pious indifference. So easy is such submission to raison d'état that the quiet torture of recalcitrant suspects surely cannot be far behind.He would prefer we didn't close our borders or detain Middle Easterners who fit a profile?
When someone sets off a suitcase nuke in downtown London, this idiot will be the first to ask why British Intelligence wasn't able to stop the terrorists from succeeding. Maybe then someone will finally speak the truth and say "thousands died just so Britain wouldn't look insensitive."
To: Pokey78
Far from this campaign yielding a new concert of civilised nations, it will emphasise the deafening control of the trumpeter and conductor.
The British piccolo, in particular, will find it harder to be heard. The band continues to play in rough harmony,
but only on condition that it follows the unilateral beat of the big bass drum.What the hell is he talking about!!
This is a war, not a gosh dern concert!!!
dh
To: RLK
Hey RLK...
Don't look now, but this IS a war against Islam!!
Nobody wants to admit it, though.
Regards...
dh
To: Pokey78
The towelheads should have let sleeping dogs lie. That they didn't is now THEIR problem. And since America was attacked, no one should entertain thoughts about telling Americans how far we should go.
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posted on
11/26/2001 9:34:33 PM PST
by
etcetera
To: onyx
"Calm down, Keith. The Guardian speaks for damn few Brits and certainly NOT for PM Blair." Maybe it's just me, but I didn't read this article and take from it a negative or anti-American tone. It's more like 'America is severely pissed off and they're united behind the idea of fighting a war and fighting it to win.'
For instance, this quote: "Europeans should reflect on this as a measure of the hard-eyed national commitment that differentiates the American mood from that of any other country. This, rather than the diplomatic niceties of coalition building, will mainly determine what happens next."
The thrust of the piece, as I see it, is that America is very much directing this war as it sees fit and other nations might just as well get used to the idea. The author may not like that, but he describes the situation pretty accurately. We'll say the right things with respect to issues like nation building and humanitarian concerns, but foremost in our minds is the severe ass-kicking of those that we feel deserve it most at the moment.
Here's another quote that sums that last bit up pretty well: "The president is mobilising an American national will such as we have not recently seen. During the cold war it was unquestioning, but static. During Vietnam, it disintegrated. Now the enemy, though invisible, is unmistakable, and the national stirring is deep against him. For the first time, the US was attacked: for the first time, the US doesn't mind if casualties are taken in the name of vengeance or self-protection. For the first time, therefore, public opinion is unambiguously ready to come in behind whatever intervention a president decides he must propose."
Can't say that I disagree...
To: Pokey78; MadIvan
I think Mr. Young is grossly underestimating the British commitment of forces in Afghanistan. And elsewhere...
Outside of that, I rather like getting a whiff of the scent of fear in his writing. It means we're on the right track.
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posted on
11/26/2001 9:40:08 PM PST
by
piasa
To: etcetera
We'll keep taking out the trash until there is no more trash.
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