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Proposed visa ban dropped
Boston Globe ^ | By Cindy Rodríguez

Posted on 11/23/2001 7:35:05 PM PST by expose

Edited on 04/13/2004 2:07:03 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

Senator Dianne Feinstein, a California Democrat, is instead focusing on the creation of a biometric card for all visa holders that would contain their fingerprint and a retinal scan.

''She decided to pull back'' on the moratorium proposal after meeting with college officials and organizations that represent them, Jim Hock, her press secretary, said this week. ''The schools assured her they would work with [the Immigration and Naturalization Service] to improve security.''


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To: DoughtyOne
Our first line of defense:

How the State Department hires . . .


41 posted on 11/23/2001 10:12:26 PM PST by Rubber Duck
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To: Dialup Llama
"There are many solid high school students who could benefit from a program at a top tier university. But these universities believe that foreign=smarter. They hold the American student in contempt."

I wholeheartedly agree! The foreign students, especially those from China and other East Asian countries, know how to take a test, i.e. memorize. Many I have met do not know how to solve the most basic problems on their own.

The tide may be turning on employment for foreigners. I met a south Asian student the other day who said that everyone she knows (foreigners) are having a difficult time finding jobs since 9-11.

42 posted on 11/23/2001 10:30:40 PM PST by Robert Lomax
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To: expose
Someone, anyone tell me the logic in educating ANY foreign national in cutting edge nuclear, electrical, chemical or biometric engineering.

By what stretch of logic should we hand our strenghts to our current or potential future enemies?

Time and again history has shown that foreign nationals, educated in our country, are not endeared to our culture as a consequence of their experiences. Our present policies are an extension of liberal guilt gone mad.

At least I understood the motivation for Clinton and Ron Brown; simple, personal greed. I don't understand our continued policy now that the cess pool has been mucked out of the executive mansion.

43 posted on 11/23/2001 10:51:13 PM PST by Amerigomag
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To: Rubber Duck
When the subject of world-view came up, and the examiner's leanings were mentioned, it dawned on me that this was more than likely a waste of time. As the writer stated, even if he and other conservatives, or at least balanced thinking individuals were able to get in, their hands would be tied every single day of their careers.

The notes regarding this process were interesting. The fact is that our whole national process works in much the same manner. We can't get true conservatives into public office because those who preceded them are so darned leftist.

Candidates who are truly conservative haven't a chance of getting in generally, and when they do their hands are tied just like the diplomatic candidates hands would have been.

44 posted on 11/23/2001 11:24:55 PM PST by DoughtyOne
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To: expose
Hit the congressional e-mails and fax's this week end; let all our elected know that a six month wait is the least we can do to protect our country from that front. Once again we are seeing congress buckle to special interest and it is always about money!

Harvard is one college that sees no problem excepting money, a lot of it, from the Bin Laden family and Osoma himself! Educate Americans First!

Here you go!

http://www.webslingerz.com/jhoffman/congress-email.html

46 posted on 11/24/2001 3:44:03 AM PST by yoe
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To: expose
Senator Dianne Feinstein, a California Democrat, is instead focusing on the creation of a biometric card for all visa holders that would contain their fingerprint and a retinal scan.

When is this going to be in place? Are the Universities paying for this?

by the way, no ban means they can fake the IDs and what not and stil come.

Guns don't kill, illegals do.

47 posted on 11/24/2001 4:30:33 AM PST by lavaroise
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To: nagdt
Profit or Freedom? Profits for whom? For universities but not for the WTC insurers and business owner! It's a question of rights and mirroring civic duty that universities want to avoid.

GUNS DON'T KILL, ILLEGALS DO!!

Congress are a bunch of hypocrits.


48 posted on 11/24/2001 4:32:38 AM PST by lavaroise
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To: expose
Feinstein just saw a beautiful opportunity: Infringe our civil liberties while at the same time appease a bunch of treasonous, liberal university bureaucrats. How could she pass that one up? Liberals are Taliban with a silly yellow "Happy Face" mask on. Our enemies are winning.
49 posted on 11/24/2001 5:05:32 AM PST by Liberty Ship
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To: yoe
Didn't Yamomoto go to Harvard? Or was it Yale?
50 posted on 11/24/2001 5:06:59 AM PST by Liberty Ship
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To: bluefish
Seems pretty simple - card and track all legal aliens, make their business/college/family sponsors seriously responsible for their actions and for their reporting.
Same time, REQUIRE that the INS be given full support from local police, business, education (sic), and fraternal entities and make it a mandatory sentence bearing crime to harbor an illegal.

Despite the government's seeming rush to initiate controls over US Citizens there should be no need for that at all; if they want to take out a sect or militia the only have to charge them with "possible suspected tendancies toward child endangerment".
It worked before.

51 posted on 11/24/2001 5:12:04 AM PST by norton
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To: Dialup Llama
But these universities believe that foreign=smarter.

These universities believe that foreign = more $$$.

52 posted on 11/24/2001 5:14:23 AM PST by varon
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To: expose
From the sound of it, Feinstein and Kyl were pretty clever: by proposing a moratorium on student visas, they got the colleges and universities to go along with biometric ID cards. The colleges and universities had to have been really scared that a visa ban would have been accomplished to go along with the ID cards.

The wealthy foreign students will have to pay all the costs associated with these biometric programs (retina scanners cost like $10,000) and the equipment will be in place for expanded use. Good deal for us.

53 posted on 11/24/2001 5:35:42 AM PST by karth
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To: F16Fighter
This upsets me. How can we allow the best and brightest Al Queda a free pass into our homes? The scum in Kunduz aren't worthy of our contempt but the educated fanatics infiltrating the USA are.

I guess we will just have to wait like rabbits in the anaconda pen until one of these sweet students decides to blow themselves to pieces along with scores of mall goers.

54 posted on 11/24/2001 6:05:02 AM PST by kinghorse
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To: F16Fighter
One of the symptoms of a late empire is that each group in the empire no longer has any allegiance to the nation, but rather has allegiance only to what they can get out of the nation.

In late Rome, there were no more patriotic Roman citizens (mass waves of immigration, cultural mixing, and unverisal citizenship had rendered the concept of "Roman citizen" a meaningless abstraction). The empire came to consist only of various sub-groups who vied for control of the governing machinery for their own immediate benefit. The few patriots left came to realize that their sacrifices weren't for the sake of the Roman ideal.....but rather were just protecting the blood-suckers who controlled the system.

Without patriots, such as John Paul Jones or Audie Murphy, a society can not and will not defend itself against foreign and domestic enemies. It becomes merely a giant scramble for goodies and power.

The people that run our universities are not Americans and have no allegiance to Western Civilization. They are only concerned with power, money, and their own corrupt ideology.

55 posted on 11/24/2001 6:15:23 AM PST by quebecois
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To: expose
creation of a biometric card for all visa holders that would contain their fingerprint and a retinal scan.

Question ... how hard would it be for a terrorist to borrow the identity of a willing accomplice who has a 'clean' background? Answer ... not very hard.

Second question ... once in the US with his biometric card that says his fingerprints and eyes match up to his name, Mohammad (when his real name is Abu - HeHeHe), what does this biometric card accomplish? Answer ... not very much.

Last question ... how often do solutions proposed by bloated federal bureacuries to problems created by bloated federal bureacracies actually solve the problems? Answer ... not very often.

56 posted on 11/24/2001 6:19:09 AM PST by layman
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To: nagdt
From a "capitalist" viewpoint I understand the universities wanting the higher rates but at this point in history everyone who cares about our country should take a step back and figure out what is really more important: Profit or Freedom.

Unfortunately, it appears that profit is waaaaaay more important than either freedom or the lives of American citizens.

57 posted on 11/24/2001 6:59:51 AM PST by LiberteeBell
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To: kinghorse
"Educated fanatics infiltrating our homes..."

The American citizenry by and large has NO idea we've been moled.

That main organ has been through that American "traditional paragon of virture", Colleges and Universities. Viper nests like Harvard, Berkeley, and New York City University have been anti-American boot camps and socialists-in-training compounds for ages.

And BTW -- just what we need -- "educated" assassins trained in our own backyards, eh?

58 posted on 11/24/2001 7:13:55 AM PST by F16Fighter
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To: quebecois
"[American society] has now merely become a giant scramble for goodies and power [by various sub-groups.]"

Bingo. We are approaching the eleventh hour of "Late Great American Republic."

I guess that's why we've all checked in to 'Free Republic' -- to somehow arouse and assemble our brethren before it's too late.

59 posted on 11/24/2001 7:19:17 AM PST by F16Fighter
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To: expose
We certainly wouldn't want the universities and colleges to have their perceived mission of undermining the Constitution of the United States interfered with by the cutting off of the supply their best canon fodder.
60 posted on 11/24/2001 7:54:34 AM PST by AmericanVictory
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