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Proposed visa ban dropped
Boston Globe ^ | By Cindy Rodríguez

Posted on 11/23/2001 7:35:05 PM PST by expose

Edited on 04/13/2004 2:07:03 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

Senator Dianne Feinstein, a California Democrat, is instead focusing on the creation of a biometric card for all visa holders that would contain their fingerprint and a retinal scan.

''She decided to pull back'' on the moratorium proposal after meeting with college officials and organizations that represent them, Jim Hock, her press secretary, said this week. ''The schools assured her they would work with [the Immigration and Naturalization Service] to improve security.''


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1 posted on 11/23/2001 7:35:05 PM PST by expose
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Chinese nationals held in Brazil for forged U.S. passports RIO DE JANEIRO, Brazil,

Nov. 23 Kyodo - The Brazilian federal police have arrested three Chinese nationals who were about to catch a plane to Miami using forged U.S.

passports, police authorities said Friday.

2 posted on 11/23/2001 7:36:30 PM PST by expose
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At a time when hundreds of thousands of Americans are out of work, many employers are rubbing salt in the wound by hiring foreign workers," said Dan Stein, executive director of the Federation for American Immigration Reform, a Washington group critical of the H-1B visa program.

The record applications for foreign workers--the majority of whom take jobs in the high tech industry--comes more than a year after Silicon Valley mounted a multimillion dollar lobbying effort to convince Congress to expand the program to satisfy skyrocketing demand for highly skilled workers.

3 posted on 11/23/2001 7:39:41 PM PST by expose
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To: expose
Our elite universities love the sound of strange languages and the atmosphere of foriegn cultures.

There are many solid high school students who could benefit from a program at a top tier university. But these universities believe that foreign=smarter. They hold the American student in contempt.

4 posted on 11/23/2001 7:40:23 PM PST by Dialup Llama
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To: expose
People should be arrested for failing on this. Where's Tom Delay? Where's Ron Paul?????
5 posted on 11/23/2001 7:41:01 PM PST by KantianBurke
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To: expose
''A moratorium would've been detrimental to our students who benefit from studying alongside students from all over the world,''

This is a politically correct money motivated decision. If I remember correctly it was reported last week that foreign students in US colleges are an $8 Billion dollar/year industry. Diversity my Aunt Maud!..it's the MONEY.

6 posted on 11/23/2001 7:41:58 PM PST by JD86
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To: expose
Am I hearing this....did it say Feinstein was the one who was pushing for the ban?
8 posted on 11/23/2001 7:46:04 PM PST by rwfromkansas
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To: JD86
Yes, they are a money-maker for universities and colleges in the U.S. Generally, the foreign students (their governments, typically) pay full freight, and then some; while, in most universities and colleges, the native-born students pay only a fraction of the costs it takes to educate them. I teach in a university. This is greed, and it makes me sick.
9 posted on 11/23/2001 7:47:34 PM PST by Irene Adler
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To: JD86
What a bunch of whores. From the College and University administrators down to our gutless Representatives.

How about if the question is put forth on an issue and referendum?

I submit if Harvard should be allowed ONLY Muslim students, they'd be slightly to the right of Alan Dershowitz.

10 posted on 11/23/2001 7:49:12 PM PST by F16Fighter
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To: Dialup Llama
Hijackers entered US with valid visas Nov 23 2001

ALL nineteen of the September 11 hijackers entered the US with valid visas although three had lost their legal status by the time of the attacks, the Justice Department said.

Fifteen of the attackers were from Saudi Arabia while two came from the United Arab Emirates, one was an Egyptian and another was Lebanese.

The hijackers' legal entries contrasted to actions of other suspected terrorists, who may have created false visas and identity documents, according to law enforcement officials.

Once in the country, the 19 crisscrossed the country from San Diego to Maine before their attacks.

Federal authorities have conceded that none of the hijackers would have been kept out of the country with their valid visas.

The State Department this month decided to slow down the visa process for young men from Arab and Muslim nations so it can search for evidence of terrorist activities. Investigators also hope to interview 5,000 people already in the country from such nations.

The FBI will check the names of visa applicants from more than 20 Arab and Muslim countries and advise the State Department.

Once in the country, several of the hijackers used drivers' licenses to open bank accounts and rent cars and apartments.

As a result, several states are changing the rules for drivers' licenses, particularly for foreign nationals.

Florida, North Carolina, Michigan and others are tightening regulations, and some states are considering new licenses that would include biometrics data such as fingerprints or retinal patterns.

11 posted on 11/23/2001 7:49:16 PM PST by expose
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To: Queen Elizabeth of Iowa
You hit the nail on the head. Foreign students pay big bucks to attend American Universities while the locals pay a fraction. From a "capitalist" viewpoint I understand the universities wanting the higher rates but at this point in history everyone who cares about our country should take a step back and figure out what is really more important: Profit or Freedom.
12 posted on 11/23/2001 7:53:13 PM PST by nagdt
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U.S. Needs Better Screening of Visa Applicants

Daily Policy Digest Terrorism Issues Wednesday, November 21, 2001

U.S. immigration needed an overhaul even before September 11. But experts argue Americans won't be made safer from terrorists by drastically limiting the number of Mexican poultry workers or Indian engineering students who come here. Yet that is what some want: imposing harsh limits on legal immigration. What's needed instead is a system that makes it harder for terrorists to enter and live here undetected for years.

We can improve the situation by keeping better track of those who come here and by having more current information on temporary and permanent resident aliens -- 40 percent of whom overstay their visas. But by far the most important reform is tighter screening of those who apply for visas.

Temporary visa applications are now processed by inexperienced employees in understaffed embassies and consulates abroad -- often without any attempt to check the background of the applicants.

Even after we learned 15 of the 19 September 11 terrorists obtained visas in Saudi Arabia, only two of the 104 Saudis applying for visas in the following month were called in for interviews by the American consulate in Jeddah, where 11 of the hijackers obtained their visas.

Some 500,000 student visas are given out every year, many to students from countries that support terrorism. About 22,000 refugees are approved and waiting immediate entry once the White House gives the OK -- including almost 6,000 Somalis, 9,000 Bosnians, 1,300 Afghans 700 Iranians and 400 Iraqis.

It makes sense, experts believe, to hold off on admitting any refugees -- or indeed any immigrants or visitors -- from any countries known to pose a terrorist threat.

Source: Linda Chavez (Center for Equal Opportunity), "Don't Seal the Borders," Wall Street Journal, November 21, 2001.

http://interactive.wsj.com/articles/SB100630531672334480.htm

For more on Terrorism http://www.ncpa.org/iss/ter/

13 posted on 11/23/2001 7:53:25 PM PST by expose
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Do I understand correctly that those valid visas had expired in many cases? If so, if the INS was doing the job it is supposed to do, the terrorists would have been picked up before they could have committed their evil act. If the INS pursued immigrants and visa holders, and investigated them thoroughly, the same way the IRS deals with actual citizens of this country, we would have fewer terrorists living among us. I'm starting to hate the INS more than the IRS!
14 posted on 11/23/2001 7:53:25 PM PST by bluefish
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To: Queen Elizabeth of Iowa
Thanks for the supporting comments. As an educator in the field you are more the expert than I am on this.
I agree it stinks to high heaven. They are putting the dollar before national security.
15 posted on 11/23/2001 7:56:28 PM PST by JD86
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Justice probe finds all hijackers entered U.S. legally

By Jerry Seper THE WASHINGTON TIMES

The Justice Department yesterday released updated information on the immigration status of the 19 hijackers who attacked America September 11, showing that all had legally entered the country on tourist or student visas.

Three of the air pirates had overstayed their one-year visas, according to the department, although 16 others were in the country legally when they hijacked and piloted four jetliners into the World Trade Center, the Pentagon and a field in western Pennsylvania.

The information was gathered by the U.S. Immigration and Naturalization Service, based on material obtained by the FBI and the State Department.

The Justice Department identified each of the four crews of hijackers who commandeered jetliners at Logan International Airport in Boston, Newark International Airport in New Jersey and Washington-Dulles International Airport into the individual flights.

On board American Airlines Flight 11 out of Boston, which crashed into the World Trade Center's north tower, were:

•Waleed M. Alshehri, a possible Saudi national, admitted on a tourist visa in May. A pilot, he lived in Hollywood, Orlando and Daytona Beach, Fla.

•Wail Alshehri, 43, a possible Saudi national, admitted on a tourist visa in June. A pilot, he lived in Hollywood, Fla., and Newton, Mass.

• Mohamed Atta, 43, a possible Egyptian national, admitted on a business visa in July, but had been approved for a change of status to be in the United States for nonacademic or vocational studies. A pilot, he lived in Hollywood and Coral Springs, Fla., and Hamburg, Germany.

•Abdulaziz Alomari, a possible Saudi national, admitted on a tourist visa in June. A pilot, he lived in Hollywood, Fla.

•Satam Al Suqami, 25, a possible Saudi national, admitted on a business visa in May. He was illegally in the country on September 11, having overstayed his visa. His last known address was in the United Arab Emirates.

On board United Airlines flight 175 out of Boston, which hit the World Trade Center's south tower, were:

•Marwan Al-Shehhi, 23, a possible United Arab Emirates national, admitted on a tourist visa in May. A pilot, he lived in Hollywood, Fla.

•Fayez Rashid Ahmed Hassan Al Qadi Banihammad, also known as Fayez Ahmed, a possible United Arab Emirates national, admitted on a tourist visa in June. He lived in Delray Beach, Fla.

•Mohand Alshehri, a possible Saudi national, admitted on a tourist visa in May. He lived in Delray Beach, Fla.

•Hamza Alghamdi, a possible Saudi national, admitted on a tourist visa in May. He lived in Delray Beach, Fla.

•Ahmed Alghamdi, admitted on a tourist visa in May. He lived in Delray Beach, Fla.

On board American Airlines Flight 77 out of Dulles, which crashed into the Pentagon, were:

•Khalid Almihdhar, a possible Saudi national, admitted on a business visa in July. He lived in San Diego and New York.

•Majed Moqed, a possible Saudi national, admitted on a tourist visa in May. His place of residency remains unknown.

•Nawaf Alhamzi, a possible Saudi national, admitted on a tourist visa in January. He was illegally in the country at the time of the September 11 attacks, having overstayed his visa. His last known addresses were Fort Lee and Wayne, N.J., and San Diego.

•Salem Alhamzi, a possible Saudi national, admitted on a tourist visa in June. He lived in Fort Lee and Wayne, N.J.

•Hani Hanjour, admitted on a student visa in December 2000. He was illegally in the country on September 11 after overstaying his visa. He lived in Phoenix and San Diego.

On board United Airlines Flight 93 out of Newark, which crashed into a field in western Pennsylvania, were:

•Ahmed Al Haznawi, 21, a possible Saudi national, admitted on a tourist visa in June. He lived in Delray Beach, Fla.

•Ahmed Alnami, a possible Saudi national, admitted on a tourist visa in May. He lived in Delray Beach, Fla.

•Ziad Samir Jarrah, a possible Lebanese national, admitted on a tourist visa in August. He was described as a pilot, although no other information was available.

•Saeed Alghamdi, a possible Saudi national, admitted on a tourist visa in June. He lived in Delray Beach, Fla.

17 posted on 11/23/2001 7:57:27 PM PST by expose
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To: F16Fighter
I agree totally...and what is worse, no one will hold the college people...I can't bring myself to call them educators...
to their agreement to work with the INS on improved security issues.
18 posted on 11/23/2001 7:58:55 PM PST by JD86
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To: bluefish
how many more Terrorists are in America on tourist or student visas.?
19 posted on 11/23/2001 8:01:46 PM PST by expose
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To: Queen Elizabeth of Iowa
I teach in a university

most of the Foreign Teachers come thu the U.N!!

20 posted on 11/23/2001 8:04:36 PM PST by expose
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