FDA unleashes new threat to human babies

American Life League, Inc. ^ | Release issued 21 Nov 01

[toenail]

FDA unleashes new threat to human babies

"In the midst of a terror campaign and a frightening battle against anthrax, the FDA has somehow been able to find the time to sanction yet another form of baby killing," said Judie Brown, president of American Life League. "The newly-approved birth control patch uses the same abortion-causing chemicals used in many other so-called contraceptives."

With its approval of the birth control patch, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration has now approved its fourth new "contraceptive" option in the last year. The skin patch has been added to a collection that already includes a monthly injection, a hormone-emitting IUD, and a hormone-emitting contraceptive ring.

"All these devices deliver the same hormones to the woman's body and all work in the same manner," said Mrs. Brown. "They all affect the uterine lining and prevent implantation of a newly-conceived human being, thus causing the end of that human being's life."

"The FDA should be ashamed of itself," said Mrs. Brown. "All Americans should reject this new form of baby killing and seek to protect all innocent human life, from fertilization to natural death."

Release issued: 21 Nov 01

©2001 American Life League, Inc.

[Judith Anne]

I once knew a poster named Erika who used the same arguments that you do...who also supported partial birth abortion. I guess that since the "fetus" hasn't breathed any air yet, in a partial birth abortion, it's okay to kill it with the scissors in the brain, right?

[Judith Anne]

Great minds think alike!

[Syncro]

:>)

[Judith Anne]

So, what's your position on Partial Birth Abortion? You seem to be avoiding giving an answer...

[pcl]

From the moment of concept the fetus has the potential to become a human. At every moment along the way to birth, the potential become greater. The moment of greatest potential is the moment before the first breath.

It is something like the probablity of winning the lottery. Each time they call a number that matches yours, your potential to win increases. You do not win until they call that last number. Up until that last matching number is called you have nothing. After it is called you have everything. If you walk away after the first number is called, you have not lost a lot of potential. If you walk away just before the last matching number is called, you are losing a lot of potential.

It is the same with the fetus. The closer you come to the moment of birth the higher the potential and less you will want to abandon that potential.

I am not sure what a partial birth abortion is, but I will say this. If I had to terminate a fetus moments before it was to be born in order to save the mother's life, I would. The mother is living human with soul. The almost birthed baby is still only a potential human.

I hope this satisfies your morbid curiousities.

[Judith Anne]

My morbid curiosities? Now THAT was a strange answer...

[New Zealander]

Thanks for that. Looking back, I guess my thoughts were inside one of those small though bubbles, not yet homogenous with the whole - much in the same way some still try to develop perpetual motion machines, or others pour endlessly over quantim theory, looking for the loophole to make the impossible "Bell's Telephone" a reality. You get the picture.

Point definitely taken - like you explain, abortifacients are akin to signing a contract saying you will practice infanticide, or passing a law demanding all who can't get to grips with algebra will be 'terminated' - it is immoral at any stage of life even if it is predetermined. Glaringly obvious - guess I owe you a bigger thanks for taking the time to answer something I should have answered myself.

I still see a few little grey lines around the area of implantation. I'm going to have to have a good look at that info about the pill - I have to agree that it needs a warning - I certainly had no idea it wasn't strictly a contraceptive until recently. I'm wondering too what would happen if it were shown that implantation was significantly less likely during a known time in the menstrual cycle - and what impact a knowledge of natural this randomness could have. But then I really should shut-up for now eh? :).

Cheers again.

[Judith Anne]

And by the way, there is NO medical reason to "terminate" the life of a "fetus" moments before being born to "save a mother's life." There is absolutely NO medical reason for a partial birth abortion. None.

[Judith Anne]

And by the way, there is NO medical reason to "terminate" the life of a "fetus" moments before being born to "save a mother's life." There is absolutely NO medical reason for a partial birth abortion. None.

[toenail]

"I am not sure what a partial birth abortion is, but I will say this. If I had to terminate a fetus moments before it was to be born in order to save the mother's life, I would. The mother is living human with soul. The almost birthed baby is still only a potential human."

"I hope this satisfies your morbid curiousities."

The only one seeking to quench a morbid thirst is you.

[wwjdn]

To me the issue is simple, we don't have the right to decide beforehand who is worthy to live or die. Based on convenience.

[MHGinTN]

(Do I sound pedantic?) 278 posted by pcl No, you sound so full of sh!t, your eyes are turning brown. You float about the internet, using different ID names, trying to sell your abject stupidity as enlightenment. Ultrasound proved you wrong years ago, but you apparently cannot learn, too thick headed, too agenda driven. Once a ghoul always a ghoul ... happy with yourself are ya? You are a sickening excuse for a human being. You get caught in your own lies every time you respond more than two or three times. You're busted, Sandy!

[independentmind]

am talking about breathing air into the lungs. That point where the fetus become autonomus from the mother.

You don't sound pedantic, but you do sound ignorant. Do you know how many children are born with breathing problems? Once you make breathing independently the criteria for new life, you have given insurance companies the ability to deprive medical treatment to many infants born with correctible problems.

You may also want to consider how many elderly people also have problems breathing. Your definition would open the door to condsidering them unworthy of medical treatment.

[homeschool mama]

**I can be COMPASSIONATE to her beliefs without giving up my own**

Hmmm...the anti Christian rhetoric you've spewed on Free Republic is in direct contrast to this statement.

So, in your belief system of anything is right if it's what we truly believe? Relativism...isn't that a belief system of the Unitarian Church? You are your own god (small 'g' definitely) and can believe or change beliefs as you see fit. What a scattered belief system. God (capital 'G' definitely) is the same yesterday, today, and forever. I'll take the true and living God over the chaos god anyday.

[pcl]

I understand that to be the case when the birth is taking place in a modern medical institution with modern doctors.

Thank goodnes for modern medical tehcnology.

There was at time, less than 50 years ago, when Catholics were killing mothers to save babies.

[pcl]

I am not the one that talks about sicsors through the head, vacuums in the womb and gleefully shows pictures of dead fetuses.

Over the years I have come to believe that some of the so called pro-life faction have morbid fascination this sort of gore. The prima facia evidence is overwhelming.

[pcl]

I just noticed the animated Gif you posted with your message. I'll bet someone really got off making that thing. Nodoubt the person enages in all sorts of pornographic perversions.

[pcl]

I just noticed the animated Gif you posted with your message. I'll bet someone got off making that thing up Now that is a clever personal attack.

I have never talked about this subject on the internet before FR. Do you really believe that I am alone in this world with my opinons?

[pcl]

Thank you for Your opinions. Notice the capital "Y" You have taken on a god like persona now that you have started to direct people on how they should think, when they are permitted to modifiy beliefs, etc.

[pcl]

Air going into and out of the lungs is breathing. Assisted breathing is still breathing. Why do you want to de-humainze people who need assisted breathing? Enslaving womens reproductive systems to you demands is not enough?

Think about people who die (stop breathing) when put on a heart lung machine during an operation. At the end of the operation, the doctor restarts the heart, the patient starts breathing again and is once again a living human. A modern miracle that puts the Chirst's fabled miracles to shame.