Posted on 11/21/2001 6:50:27 AM PST by Stand Watch Listen
Imagine that an organism is sick. Imagine that the sick cells convince the organism that they were healthy, and in fact, the healthy cells are sick. The gullible organism would just get sicker and sicker.
This is the relationship between society and homosexuals today. Gays argue that same-sex behavior is no different than being left-handed. On the other hand, they say heterosexual behavior is not natural, but socially conditioned and oppressive. Heterosexual society and family are being ravaged. Our stupid, opportunistic and craven leaders have betrayed us. We don´t even know we are at war.
Let´s decide whom, in fact, is sick.
Let´s look at gay behavior as defined by two gays, Marshall Kirk and Hunter Madsen Ph.D., authors of After the Ball: How America will Conquer its Fear and Hatred of Gays in the 90´s(1989).
In Chapter Six, they outline ten categories of misbehavior, drawn from their own experiences, wide reading and thousands of hours of conversation with hundreds of other gays. Their contention is that the gay lifestyle, not gay sexuality mind you, is the pits. They want gays to improve their image by addressing what is wrong with a lot of gays. (276)
What follows are some highlights. As you read this, ask yourself if there is another human community, including the Mafia that could make these generalizations about itself. Ask yourself if we haven´t caught this disease, or at least the sniffles.
The authors say a surprisingly high percentage of pathological liars and con men are gay. This results from a natural habit of self-concealment, and leads to a stubborn self-deception about one´s own gayness and its implications.
They say gays tend to reject all forms of morality and value judgments. Gay morality boils down to If it feels good, I´ll do it! If a gay feels like seducing a trusted friend´s lover, he´ll do it, justifying it as an act of sexual freedom and the friend be damned.
They say gays suffer from a narcissistic personality disorder and they give this clinical description: pathological self absorption, a need for constant attention and admiration, lack of empathy or concern for others, quickly bored, shallow, interested in fads, seductive, overemphasis on appearance, superficially charming, promiscuous, exploitative, preoccupied with remaining youthful, relationships alternate between over idealization and devaluation.
As an example of this narcissism, the authors say a very sizable proportion of gay men who have been diagnosed HIV positive continue to have unprotected sex.
They say the majority of gays are extremely promiscuous and self-indulgent. They must continuously up the ante to achieve arousal. This begins with alcohol and drugs and includes such forbidden aspects of sex as wallowing in filth (fetishism and coprophilia) and sadomasochism, which involves violence.
They say many gays indulge in sex in public bathrooms and think it is antigay harassment when it is stopped. Many think they have a right to importune straight males, including children.
Many gays are single minded sexual predators fixated on youth and physical beauty alone. When it comes to the old or ugly, gays are the real queerbashers. Disillusioned themselves, they are cynical about love.
Relationships between gay men don´t usually last very long. They quickly tire of their partners and fall victim to temptation. The cheating ratio of married´ gay males, given enough time, approaches 100%.
Even friendships are based on the sexual test and hard to sustain. Unattractive gay men find it nearly impossible to find a friend, let alone a lover.
The authors say gays tend to deny reality in various ways: wishful thinking, paranoia, illogic, emotionalism and embracing crackpot ideas.
Is there any doubt that this behavior is sick? I feel no malice toward gays. I feel the same way about people who have the flu. I want them to get better and I don´t want it to spread.
Unfortunately, even the authors of this book are deceiving themselves. They claim that it is the gay lifestyle and NOT gay sexuality that is the pits. Who are they kidding? The two are inseparable.
The authors of this book are public relations experts who believe that our problem is fundamentally one of bad image with straights. The book details a comprehensive public-relations campaign that should go a long way towards sanitizing our very unsanitary image:
Desensitization: flooding straight America with advertising presenting gays in the least offensive manner possible.
Jamming: Advertising that equates fear of gays with hatred of Jews, Blacks and women.
Conversion: Presenting images of gays that look like regular folks. The image must be the icon of normality.
They say it makes no difference that the ads are lies because we are using them to counter negative stereotypes that are every bit as much lies.
This book was written in 1989 and obviously a campaign similar to this has taken effect. Read what the authors say about it:
By Conversion, we mean something far more profoundly threatening to the American Way of Life [than subversion] We mean conversion of the average American´s emotions, mind, and will, through a planned psychological attack, in the form of propaganda fed to the nation via the media. We mean to turn their hatred into warm regard whether they like it or not. (153)
Thus gays want Americans to learn that something they naturally and justifiably regard as sick, is in fact healthy. Thus Americans will be defenseless to resist their importunities whether in parks, barracks, bathrooms or classrooms.
It is a measure of the authors´ cynicism and self-deception that THEY quote psychologist M. Scott Peck, who in People of the Lie characterizes people who suffer from malignant narcissism simply as evil.
Evil people, Peck says, have an unshakable will to be right and will not consider the possibility that they are wrong Their main weapon, interestingly enough is the lie with which they distort reality to look good to themselves, and to confuse others. (297)
Gays can continue to fool themselves. But let us not. Some of these people are evil. Their behavior is sick. And it´s contagious.
I think you mean to say that they disagree with the notion that homosexuality is a mental illness; even then, it is much the same as saying:
"Just about every reputable educator in the world thinks that teachers are overpaid," group-think probably afflicts the psychological community more than any other group (IMO).
What do they do the other 51 weeks?
Man, you are illiterate.
Actually, if people were to follow the teachings of the Catholic Church, we would have no AIDs crisis at all, we would not have 65 million Americans with STDs, we would not have over a million abortions a year, we would not have 1/2 of all American children born out of wedlock, we would not have 1/3 of all pregnancies ended in abortion. For myself personally, I know that I will never get an STD, that I will never get AIDs (baring the most unlikely of circumstances), that my children will always have a married and loving mother and father, and that any child that I have helped to conceive will not be brutally murdered. I'll take the Catholic Church's teaching over the 'wisdom' of Western civilization any day.
You're wrong. Men putting their sexual organs up the rectums of other men will never be considered healthy, normal, good or positive by most people. Most people see it for the filthy, sorry and disgusting act that it is.
You're wrong, Biker NYC. Sex with my wife is fun and sacred at the same time. My three beautiful children were brought into this world from that sacred and fun act with my wife.
Relationships between gay men don´t usually last very long. They quickly tire of their partners and fall victim to temptation. The cheating ratio of married´ gay males, given enough time, approaches 100%.That's becuase our repressive, homophobic society won't let them marry, right?
Just ask the defenders of the gay lifestyle. Well, you don't even have to ask them. They'll use a megaphone to tell you without being prompted.
The proposed RIMMING, SNORKLING and GERBIL STUFFING badges are still being designed and will be -- er -- OUT soon.
Which is precisely the truth. The reproductive function is integral to the sexual act. Any sexual act that subverts the reproductive aspect of intercourse is by defiition disordered and immoral.
There are many sexual activities engaged in by men and women that aren't directed toward impregnantion. Sex between two men or sex between two women is simply one of those non-reproductive sexual activities.
Trying to separate reproduction from sexual relations is like trying to separate nutrition from the act of eating: a perversion of the natural order.
A lot of the prejudice against gays originated in Biblical times, when it was imperative to be fruitful and multiply in order to ensure the survival of the tribe, or the species. Any activity that didn't lead to reproduction was bad, because it didn't contribute to the survival of the group.
Uh, sure, Perfesser. Thanks for that utterly unupported personal opinion.
These days, when we have too many people crowding the earth...
Another unsupported assertion. Who says we have too many people crowding the earth?
...those old taboos against non-reproductive sex have fallen, one after another. The Catholic Church is one of the last holdouts for the "be fruitful and multiply" point of view in the modern world.
The Catholic Church supports human life in all its forms. We are 100% in favor of human beings, and we always will be, no matter what a "majority of reputable psychologists" say.
The Church still officially forbids any kind of birth control, including contraceptives, doesn't it?
Since the reproductive function is integral to the sexual act, and since any sexual act that subverts the reproductive aspect of intercourse is disordered and immoral, then, yes, the Church forbids artificial contraception.
"Basing itself on Sacred Scripture, which presents homosexual acts as acts of grave depravity,[Cf. Gen 191-29; Rom 124-27; 1 Cor 6:10; 1 Tim 1:10 .] tradition has always declared that 'homosexual acts are intrinsically disordered.' [CDF, Persona humana 8.] They are contrary to the natural law. They close the sexual act to the gift of life. They do not proceed from a genuine affective and sexual complementarity. Under no circumstances can they be approved."
By the way: thanks for helping out Captain Picard!
It's WHAT THESE FOLKS DO!!
Exactly! Thats why what happens between a man and woman has no relation to the practice of homosexuality. Obviously the only thing those who pretend an anus is a vagina can produce are dirt babies.
If those are the only choices (which they aren't), then I vote for "repressive theocracy".
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