Posted on 11/20/2001 6:00:49 PM PST by Ronin
Hello,
My name is Furi Setio Rini and I am a Muslim woman. I am 20 years old and live in Jakarta, Indonesia. I am attending my third year of medical school at Trisatki University. My friend, Ronin, asked me to write this because he is very disturbed about the hatred of Islam that he is seeing on your board.
What can I say about me? Well, I think I am an average Indonesian girl. I like movies and music. I love to shop for new clothes. Sometimes I eat too much. I do not like the music that is too loud. I don't like politics and I don't understand them.
I have to laugh when I hear western people talk about Muslim women. Somehow they think that all of us are beaten by men and treated like animals. If you had ever seen my father, my brothers and me, running away from my mother when she was angry, you would know how silly that is.
I have never worn a veil. I wear make up and I use lipstick. Except on the days I go to Mosque. On those days I clean myself as much as I can. I do not believe that it makes much difference to God, but I want him to see me with my true face, and heart.
I have two brothers. One of them is older, the other is younger than me. I guess that they are like brothers everywhere. Sometimes I love them. Sometimes I hate them. Sometimes I wish I could kill them. But no, that is a lie. Even when I think I hate them, I love them. They are my brothers, my family. I love and respect my father and my mother. I adore my father and hope to find a husband just like him.
I have not been kissed yet. And I have not been held as a woman wants to be held. Yes, I want it. Yes, I dream about it. But I can wait until I find the man I will marry. And no -- it will not be a marriage arranged by my parents. I will choose my husband, and he will choose me. We will marry because we love each other and want to spend the rest of our lives with each other. God willing.
I am studying to be a doctor. It is my best dream and ambition to be a doctor in a small village where doctors are rare. I want to be able to help the most common people of my country. I want to make life better for them. I want to bring happy and healthy babies to loving mothers and proud fathers. I want to give comfort to the old people who have so much to teach us. I want to share my love with true and real results.
I am not perfect. I am quite lazy sometimes and I have to force myself to studies on days when it is too hot, or at times when there are so many other interesting things to do. But this is a story about Muslim women, so maybe I should talk about that a little. What is Islam to me? This is a question that is very hard for me to answer. Islam is in my blood. I pray to God each day. I ask for health and happiness for my family, my friends and my country. More than that I cannot say. I love God and I pray to Him daily. . Is that any different from you?
I pray to God each day for wisdom. But the newspapers and the television and the radio shows me nothing but images I do not want to see. I can't stand the pictures I see.
I hate war. I hate it! I hate it! I hate it!
I hate it almost as much as I hate pediatrics class. Not because I hate newborn babies, I love them. I want my own babies. But, I hate learning about the illnesses and the horrible conditions that can happen when a baby gets sick.
My heart cries. Sometimes, just opening the textbook is a horror. To see a stillborn baby makes a small death inside me. But I must learn, because if I cannot learn to treat them and make them well, more babies may die. I cannot think of anything worse.
I think that most Indonesian girls are like me. And, most Indonesian boys are like boys everywhere. They like cars and sports. They play music too loud. When they think they are so cool and exciting, they are usually very boring. The television and radio you see is not showing you the proper vision of my country or my people. We live and we love. We go to restaurants, movies, and clubs.
I do not drink alcohol, but I do not find that a hardship. (I did have a glass of red wine once. It did not taste very good.) My father and my brother smoke cigarettes, but I don't. No, we do not eat pork.
Men say that the words of God are in the Holy Quran, the Christian Bible and in the Jewish books. I do not know about that. I read the Holy Quran and try to live my life in the teachings that it contains. But inside my heart I know the only commandment of God is love. I love God. And I know that God is love.
So, this is my testament. It is not very profound.
I am a Muslim woman. I love God. God is love. I love you all.
Furi Setio Reni
Does she know about East Timor, or that westerners are fleeing from her country because they fear her co-religionists?
Or about the more than a million ethnic Chinese and several hundred thousand Christians who've been slaughtered in the brutally-murderously Javanese-muslim-conquered and colonized former Netherlands East Indies that she and her fellow Javanese call "Indonesia?"
Or of the hundreds of Ethnic Chinese and Sulaweseans and Balinese and Timorese Catholics Irian Jaya Christians and Achehan -- and every other kind of former-Netherlands-East-Indies Christian or Hindu or Buddhist or Animist -- or you-name-it -- non-"islamic" woman who was and/or is being raped and tortured and brutally "female-circumcised" and forced to "convert" to your female character's "religion."
Last year. Last month. Last week. Yesterday Today, tomorrow -- and until America's Crusades-like war [AKA World War IV (We've already fought and won the other three!)] against islamic terrorism [Already just a few kilometres away in Zamboanga del Norte and Sulu and Jolo] reaches into Indonesia and puts a stop to the islamic-Javanese butchery, too.
This piece is Joe-Goebells-like "Tokyo-Ronin" bullshit and is a bloody insult to the intelligence -- not to mention to the Moral Integrity -- of every AMERICA-LOVING FRee Republican!
We do not "hate muslims" -- but we surely love Truth!
"For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son [Jesus Christ], that whosoever believes in Him should not perish but have eternal life. For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world through Him might be saved."
I pray the lady will come to know and believe on Jesus Christ as her Savior and the Son of God so she can receive the gift of eternal life, the gift of love from God the Father who proved His love for her by offering the sacrifice of His Son who rose from the dead.
The Qu'ran speaks for Islam and the Qu'ran does support violence against non-believers. Muhammand did kill 120-year old Jewish men in their sleep and allowed his followers to rape the women of a conquered foe.
Get a brain and, oh, actually read the Bible and the Qu'ran before making idiotic commentary.
Where is her expression of sorrow over 9-11? Typical Muslim response. Refuse to acknowledge that their culture BREEDS people like Bin Laden. Refuse to acknowledge that Islam BREEDS intolerance towards other religions.
I don't buy this "letter" one stinking bit. It insults me, my intelligence, and undoubtedly many others here on FR.
I wonder how she tries to live by the passages in the Koran that calls on all moslems to kill infidels (non-moslems)? She sounds like a very open-spirited person who could easily embrace the love of Christ. Would that she really knew Him.
from "The Women" [4.89] They desire that you should disbelieve as they have disbelieved, so that you might be (all) alike; therefore take not from among them friends until they fly (their homes) in Allah's way; but if they turn back, then seize them and kill them wherever you find them, and take not from among them a friend or a helper. [4.91] You will find others who desire that they should be safe from you and secure from their own people; as often as they are sent back to the mischief they get thrown into it headlong; therefore if they do not withdraw from you, and (do not) offer you peace and restrain their hands, then seize them and kill them wherever you find them; and against these We have given.you a clear authority. http://www.hti.umich.edu/k/kor an/ The Dinner Table - [5.51] O you who believe! do not take the Jews and the Christians for friends; they are friends of each other; and whoever amongst you takes them for a friend, then surely he is one of them; surely Allah does not guide the unjust people. The Cattle - [6.146] And to those who were Jews We made unlawful every animal having claws, and of oxen and sheep We made unlawful to them the fat of both, except such as was on their backs or the entrails or what was mixed with bones: this was a punishment We gave them on account of their rebellion, and We are surely Truthful. The Immunity - Denial of Deity of Christ and His Messiahship - [9.30] And the Jews say: Uzair is the son of Allah; and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; may Allah destroy them; how they are turned away! (MAY GOD DESTROY JEWS AND CHRISTIANS) The Congregation [62.6] Say: O you who are Jews, if you think that you are the favorites of Allah to the exclusion of other people, then invoke death If you are truthful. (PLEASE COMMIT SUICIDE) The Cow - [2.111] And they say: None shall enter the garden (or paradise) except he who is a Jew or a Christian. These are their vain desires. Say: Bring your proof if you are truthful. The Women - [4.171] O followers of the Book! do not exceed the limits in your religion, and do not speak (lies) against Allah, but (speak) the truth; the Messiah, Isa son of Marium is only an apostle of Allah and His Word which He communicated to Marium and a spirit from Him; believe therefore in Allah and His apostles, and say not, Three. Desist, it is better for you; Allah is only one God; far be It from His glory that He should have a son, whatever is in the heavens and whatever is in the earth is His, and Allah is sufficient for a Protector. (CLEARLY STATES THAT JESUS IS **NOT** THE SON OF GOD) The Dinner Table - The Dinner Table [5.14] And with those who say, We are Christians, We made a covenant, but they neglected a portion of what they were reminded of, therefore We excited among them enmity and hatred to the day of resurrection; and Allah will inform them of what they did. [5.72] Certainly they disbelieve who say: Surely Allah, He is the Messiah, son of Marium; and the Messiah said: O Children of Israel! serve Allah, my Lord and your Lord. Surely whoever associates (others) with Allah, then Allah has forbidden to him the garden, and his abode is the fire; and there shall be no helpers for the unjust. |
Well said!
Their attitude bespeaks a SERIOUS psychopathology.
Our "Tolerant" culture is--only now--beginning to understand the "Ramifications" of this hateful cultural abberration.
We are at Great Peril, but our natural cultural generosity & tolerance now imperil our survival. We MUST soon isolate & remove those who hate us who operate within our own society.
"Free Speech" is NOT an open-ended condition free of consequences!
If they Hate us--Let them Leave!!
Doc
Tell it!!! Tell it, my brother from another mother!!!
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