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Graham stands by comments on Islam
Charlotte Observer ^ | November 19, 2001 | Ken Garfield

Posted on 11/19/2001 11:54:59 AM PST by Stand Watch Listen

But `evil and wicked' quote doesn't cancel Christian love, he says

While saying he is called to love people regardless of their faith, evangelist Franklin Graham on Sunday wouldn't back away from his recent statement on a national news program that Islam "is a very evil and wicked religion."

In a prepared statement released to The Observer through a spokesman, Graham said his Samaritan's Purse ministry in Boone will continue providing millions of dollars in aid to Muslims in need around the world. But he did not take back the controversial comments aired Friday night on "NBC Nightly News" and repeated on cable stations.

Those pieces were based on an interview Graham gave last month near Wilkesboro, at the dedication of a chapel in his parents' name, when he said: "We're not attacking Islam but Islam has attacked us. The God of Islam is not the same God. He's not the son of God of the Christian or Judeo-Christian faith. It's a different God and I believe it is a very evil and wicked religion."

In his prepared statement Sunday, Graham said: "It is not my calling to analyze Islam or any other religions, though I recognize that all religions have differences. In the past, I have expressed my concerns about the teachings of Islam regarding the treatment of women and the killing of non-Muslims or infidels."

Graham, 49, does not plan to comment publicly on the issue, and only will release Sunday's statement in response to questions.

His response comes a day after his ministry's Operation Christmas Child began processing 1 million shoe boxes in Charlotte for needy children overseas - including thousands destined for largely Muslim nations.

His comments were challenged by former Charlottean Ali Akber, who helped organize a meeting between local Jews and Muslims after Sept. 11, before he relocated to Maryland.

"That's spreading hatred," said Akber. "It is the same God. We just don't worship the same way. We all believe in God and charity and worshipping and not doing any evil."

Franklin Graham's views run counter to those expressed on Sept. 17 by President Bush, who called Islam "a faith that brings comfort to a billion people around the world."

It also stands in contrast to the message delivered by Graham's father at the National Day of Prayer and Remembrance service at the National Cathedral in Washington, on Sept. 14. "We come together today to affirm our conviction that God cares for us, whatever our ethnic, religious or political background may be," Billy Graham preached. "The Bible says that he is `the God of all comfort, who comforts us in all our troubles.'"


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To: Stand Watch Listen
That's spreading hatred," said Akber. "It is the same God. We just don't worship the same way. We all believe in God and charity and worshipping and not doing any evil." Yes. ALL Muslims believe in not doing any evil. That's why so many Americans were killed Sept 11. Christ taught that any religion not accepting Him as the son of God was a false religion....Graham is a Christian. He believes in the teachings of Christ. How is this spreading hatred?
41 posted on 11/19/2001 12:55:06 PM PST by Bellanorma
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To: KJMorgan
I'd like to think we have the PC buttheads on the run right now. Let's not give them any time to get their wind back.
42 posted on 11/19/2001 1:02:54 PM PST by Cold Heat
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To: Lent
The press spends more time attacking and brow-beating an evangelical Christian than they do

. . . showing pictures of the planes flying into the WTC;
. . . showing pictures of the crumpled, emaciated bodies at the bottom of the WTC;
. . . showing people diving to their deaths from the top of the WTC;
. . . showing the thousands of people in tears because a family member was murdered at the Pentagon, WTC, or PA;
. . . showing the number of Hertz's driving down to cemetaries with coffins in their bellies; and
. . . condemning the evil people who did this to us!

43 posted on 11/19/2001 1:03:33 PM PST by nicmarlo
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To: nicmarlo
Exactly right!
44 posted on 11/19/2001 1:05:29 PM PST by Lent
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To: Stand Watch Listen
Re: #39 My total misreading of Franklin Graham's views on Islam brings forth my apology to all Freepers who were offended by my erroneous, misinformed and destructive outburst but especially to Franklin Graham!!

No message beyond the above request for forgiveness by all!!

45 posted on 11/19/2001 1:13:56 PM PST by VOYAGER
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To: ZULU
I used to believe that Muslems Christians and Jews all worshipped the same God. Then I realized that the reason I believed that was because Muslims presented their faith that way.

However, when one actually looks at the Qu'ran, one immediately sees the huge disparities between their God and the Judeo-Christian God. Franklin Graham is right in that sense, then, when he draws that distinction. I believe he's absolutely right--the Islamic faith is not built around the Judeo-Christian God of the Bible. I'm not sure whether Muslims actually believe they worship the same God, or whether they simply say that in order to be more acceptable to Christians. But regardless, I'm convinced that the God they serve is not the Christian God at all, but a false god...an idol, if you will...

While they believe in the God of Abraham, from what I've seen they would not swear allegiance to the God of Isaac and Jacob, but rather the God of Ishmael. But God identifies Himself in the Old Testament as the "God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob."

And that is the beginning of the dividing line between the different religions.

-penny

46 posted on 11/19/2001 1:16:07 PM PST by Penny1
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To: VOYAGER
LOL, no wonder I was so confused...

Thanks for straightening that out...I was a little worried there for a moment... ;)

-penny

47 posted on 11/19/2001 1:18:56 PM PST by Penny1
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To: Stand Watch Listen
Franklin Graham is something our culture cannot stand: a principled, genuine Christian who will not water down his beliefs to please the crowd.

I will not be surprised if in a few years he will be thrown to the lions in a stadium packed with roaring pagans. (See the life of Paul the Apostle, John the Baptist, Abel, etc).

The success of Harry Potter shows that this nation is rapidly descending into the grips of Satanic darkness. (Witchcraft if for KIDS, now!)

48 posted on 11/19/2001 1:21:14 PM PST by BenR2
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To: AppyPappy
Absolutely, Appy, and you still don't see them rushing forward to defend America. You know Fox News would be finding them if there many to be found. You mostly see the guys that make you want to go out and but a gun and plenty of ammo.
49 posted on 11/19/2001 1:22:09 PM PST by mumbo
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To: All
"It is the same God. We just don't worship the same way. We all believe in God and charity and worshipping and not doing any evil."

Uh, NO, in fact "it" is not the "same" God. I've yet to see Christians fly planes into buildings, beat, burn, and shoot women, beat men for having a "too short beard" and most appaling to me: female butchering (aka circumcision). Islam is a mental illness.
50 posted on 11/19/2001 1:24:04 PM PST by GussiedUp
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To: VOYAGER
Does this mean we are to love Satan and forgive him and support his agenda?

Just the opposite. We are to flee Satan and expose evil. Graham is "exposing evil".

Franklin may mean well in his heart but he's getting sloppy on the facts.

On the contrary. Franklin is exactly right on his facts and is not sloppy in the least. His detractors are the ones who are "sloppy on the facts".

He needs to go back to "Who God is and what He demands from His children" 101 class.

And just what might that be...? According to the Bible, one of His major tenets is to notworship false gods, of which Allah is a prime example.

For Graham to say this, even in his heart, let alone publicly, can destroy the foundational beginnings of weaker and beginner Christians who sometimes look to the wrong messengers for food whereby their faith can grow.

If he is looking to the wrong messengers for food, the "weaker or beginner Christians" will assuredly get the wrong food. That food will be poison to his genuine faith. He needs to look to messengers that only support what The Bible says, not what they wish it says or what some other religious book like the Koran says.

Islam is a false, cultic religion that is totally foreign and inimicable to The Bible. There is no meeting of the minds whatsoever on "God", salvation, or anything else, except very superficially and in a narrow, moral sense. Sorry, but that's not "close enough" for argument, much less God's Word.

This, apparently innocently presented, statement needs to be withdrawn and forgiveness asked for by Franklin Graham from God as well as the people who will be mislead by it.

I see nothing at all misleading about it. It is dead on.

51 posted on 11/19/2001 1:24:54 PM PST by Gritty
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To: Stand Watch Listen
his recent statement on a national news program that Islam "is a very evil and wicked religion."

Graham said his Samaritan's Purse ministry in Boone will continue providing millions of dollars in aid to Muslims in need around the world.

Is it just me?
Or is there a profound contradiction in the two statements above which in itself borders on "evil"?

52 posted on 11/19/2001 1:26:09 PM PST by Publius6961
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To: Stand Watch Listen
Those pieces were based on an interview Graham gave last month near Wilkesboro, at the dedication of a chapel in his parents' name, when he said: "We're not attacking Islam but Islam has attacked us. The God of Islam is not the same God. He's not the son of God of the Christian or Judeo-Christian faith. It's a different God and I believe it is a very evil and wicked religion."

I'm with you brother!! It's great to see someone with the guts to tell the truth and then to stand by it in the face of attacks by the P.C. police. Way to go!!

53 posted on 11/19/2001 1:27:58 PM PST by pgkdan
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To: ThomasMore
Christians have been dying all over the world at the hands of muslims. Radical or not, the muslim world has not convinced me that they are peace-loving, Christian-loving people. The Rev is just tellin' it like it is. When Algeria, Egypt, Sudan, Somalia, Saudi Arabia, Yemen, Iraq, Iran, Indonesea....etc, etc stop persecuting other religions like there infidels, then maybe, MAYBE I will be willing to listen.

Kinda brings to mind the verse (forgive the paraphrase), "By their fruit you shall know them..." And in this case, their fruit speaks loudly of what their religion is about, particularly when it is rare to find a Muslim leader who will outright condemn Islamic terrorists and when these terrorists instead command a huge following among their Muslim brothers...

-penny

54 posted on 11/19/2001 1:28:27 PM PST by Penny1
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To: chemainus
...they owe my daughter a year's wages for working on their horse farm in Waynesboro

Heavens! I would have started questioning had I not received that first MONTH'S paycheck...and been real hungry about month two!
55 posted on 11/19/2001 1:28:38 PM PST by GussiedUp
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To: AppyPappy
From what I remember, they put people to death for opposing the church. I somehow doubt that was a rogue element working within the church.

It must have been a rogue element since they it longer exists.
Islam, on the other hand, has an unbroken 1300 year record of brutality, intolerance and evil.

56 posted on 11/19/2001 1:31:06 PM PST by Publius6961
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To: GussiedUp
Yes, and with the possible exception of Turks, they also believe in hating dogs. Any religion which makes people believe they must regard man's best friend as unclean and evil, that angels will not bless a house inwhich one is in...What more needs to be said about that religion?

There's been trouble in the UK over Muslims and dogs. One Muslim girl took it upon herself to stone a beagle which approached her in a London park. Naturally, the park patrons took exception, and were a little forceful in rescuing the poor dog. And the UK press took it upon itself to lecture the dog lovers on what awful, xenophobic, intolerant cretins they were....(Source : Either Games Pets Play or Pets and Their People.)

57 posted on 11/19/2001 1:40:45 PM PST by kaylar
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To: BenR2
I will not be surprised if in a few years he will be thrown to the lions in a stadium packed with roaring pagans. (See the life of Paul the Apostle, John the Baptist, Abel, etc).

Count Daniel in that crowd, too.

58 posted on 11/19/2001 1:45:24 PM PST by nicmarlo
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To: Publius6961
Nope. Christ says we are to hate the sin but love the sinner.
59 posted on 11/19/2001 1:51:06 PM PST by nicmarlo
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To: Publius6961
Is it just me? Or is there a profound contradiction in the two statements above which in itself borders on "evil"?

I would hope it is just you. YOu failed to see (and highlight) the words "in need". He is sending help to those "in need" regardless of their faith.
60 posted on 11/19/2001 1:57:08 PM PST by GussiedUp
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