NAACP issues call to end inequality in schools

AP ^ | Nov 15 2001 | Tamara Henly

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WASHINGTON

[river rat]

If blacks would stop the destructive out of wedlock impregnation cycle, perhaps more black children could be born into families that could support and nurture their young ones. As it is - with 70+% of all black children born as bastards - to mothers that use them as a meal ticket to secure federal and state welfare payments - the blacks will continue down their self destructive path...

The Federal and State governments NEVER learned, the more you subsidize, the more you get. By rewarding unwed mothers with more money than they could earn working - they preferred screwing their way into an income.

Welfare must be ENDED not mended.

I fear it has already gone beyond correction. This will be the next major problem America has to deal with --- a disowned and bastard criminal class.
Semper Fi

[Missus]

HOW ABOUT:

We put the responsibility to learn right back on the student, where it belongs.

I know, radical thought, that a person's skin color or location of residence doesn't have to act as a deterrent to education and success UNLESS the person lets it!?

Good old Queasy, though. Let's throw more money at it, and somehow the kids will feel "inspired" and "self-confident" and actually show up and apply themselves. Yep, that will work.

Regards

[summer]

Re your post #38 - Great! Let me know if anyone bothers to respond. Because I meant what I said with all my heart, and with the best interests of those black students in mind. And, I honestly wish those black community leaders would get a real clue as to what those black kids truly lack: A lot of love, support and guidance from TWO PARENTS. MARRIED. TO EACH OTHER. OK, let's see if the NAACP can understand that!

[summer]

PS You're welcome! And, thank YOU! :)

[summer]

Re your post #40 -- Oh, Amelia, I am SO happy you are on this forum. I know exactly what you mean. Now, here is a true phone conversation I had with a "parent" of one of my students when I phone that home:

ME: "Hello, I am [Crystal's] new teacher -- is this Crystal's father?"

MALE VOICE [loud music in the background]: "Uh, no I ain't no one's father."

ME (confused): "Well, is this [555-1212]?"

MALE [music continues; lots of voices in the background]: Yeah, so?

ME: "Does Crystal live there? She is a student in my class."

MALE: 'CRYSTAL'?? Did you say 'CRYSTAL'???

ME: Yes. Is this the home where Crystal lives?

MALE: Crystal....(after about 30 seconds of silence from the male, and loud music in the background) Oh -- YEAH! CRYSTAL! YEAH! She DOES live here!

(Amelia, you get the picture -- these "guardians" don't even know if the student actually lives with them or not....)

I wish I could tell you I am making this up. But, I'm not making this up.

[summer]

Include Amelia's post #40 when you sent my post to the NAACP -- I don't want them to think I made this up. I didn't. Real teachers, like Amelia, know exactly what I am talking about. Thanks, Elkiejg.

[summer]

I have no idea. But, there was an uplifting post recently about such matters. I'll try to find it and post a link here for you.

[Down South P.E.]

Oh that's easy to explain with ADD now didn't you know that. My aunt asked me to help her son with his math homework one day and I said sure just make sure he has it done by the time I get there. When I arrived he was riding his skateboard and had been for two hours. She explained to me that the Doctor said he had ADHD. Or you could always use the excuse that my child is in the slow class. So many excuses and crutches to give kids these days. A good belt across the behind would cure a lot of that - I know because it worked for me. Now I have an MS in Engineering thanks to a little discipline.

[jonsie]

As a high school teacher, your statement is so right. I fight this battle everyday. Many young black students are very capable of succeeding, however their culture gets in their way, as well as their parents who are leery of white teachers. I want all my students to do well. Students who won't do the work will always fail, there is really no way in getting around that. Unfortunately, it is a no win situation, teachers are punished these days for students who refuse to work. We feel like baby sitters, instead of teachers. Many teachers give up on these students after working with parents and administrators. You can not have different standards for different students. We are often told to work with these students and pass them on. I was told the other day by an administrator to take the path of least resistance when dealing with a cheating student. I didn't listen to him and the parent took her child out of my class, not believing me that her child had cheated. That child will not be a productive citizen. Mother has written his fate. There are many teachers in America who want to right the wrongs, however, I believe it will always be a racial thing.

[Amelia]

Oh, don't even get me started on ADHD (Ah Didn't Haveno Discipline)! I'm convinced 95% of those are "it's easier to give my child a pill than to make him behave"!

[usconservative]

Headline: USConservative issues call to NAALCP to sit down and shut the hell up!

There's a war going on, or don't these boneheads know that?

[Down South P.E.]

Now, now true scientific data indicating the problem with education is the parent(s), family or community would be politically incorrect. Any way if you prooved that point with data it would still be your fault that the parent(s), family or community are messed up don't you think. Please realize I am being very sarcastic here. Bottom line is it doesn't matter what you do there will be no satisfaction.

[Amelia]

It has been pointed out that an increasingly larger number of the individuals in charge are A-A's. Could this be part of the solution or is it part of the problem?

Both.

Black teachers can discipline black students better than white teachers can, usually. If a white teacher disciplines a black student, even if the student knows s/he has done wrong, the teacher is still seen as prejudiced, and is just "hating on" the student. Black teachers can use words and a tone of voice that would get a white teacher fired, but the student will have no problem with it coming from a black teacher. (The parents will generally have the same attitude as the student, by the way.)

On the other hand, the black teachers and administrators are more likely to think that "no child should fail", whether or not the child has actually done the work and/or acquired the skills to move up.

[hsszionist]

This means that ethnic compensation should be ended.

Perforance should finally, should be rewarded.

[Down South P.E.]

I agree 100%. An I have argued that to no avail for years. It's easier to give them a pill than take responsibility. Parents are too busy and self-centered (and many too imature) to take the time they should with their kids.

[Amelia]

Unfortunately, it is a no win situation, teachers are punished these days for students who refuse to work. We feel like baby sitters, instead of teachers.

Right, if too many students fail, the teacher is blamed, and gets a lower evaluation. In looking at the failure rate, they don't look at how many days these students were absent, or whether they slept or refused to work while they were there. However, the administrators will tell you that you can't make the kids do their work - you can only punish them if they are disrupting the rest of the class (but if they fail because they didn't do any work, it's still your fault.)

The legislature says that unless the kids are in school, Mom doesn't get her welfare check (or the students who are also moms don't get theirs), and the kids can't have a driver's license. What the legislature FORGOT to say is that the kids have to come to school EVERY DAY, not just 2-3 days a week, and they have to DO SOMETHING while they're there. Sometimes it's a judge who says the kid can either go to school or go to jail - but again, the judge doesn't monitor the kid to see if he's attending regularly, or if he's doing any work while he's there.

[Down South P.E.]

Don't forget to tell them that it is not the teachers responsibility to raise the communities kids while the parent(s) are off doing their own thing. The primary problems are the parents, the parents, the parents and the parents again not the teachers.

[TheSpellingSheriff]

Hukd un foniks wurkd fer me! (actually, our small family lives in relative poverty so that our daughter can go to a GOOD PRIVATE CATHOLIC SCHOOL at full tuition - $8000+/year to get an education without drugs/pregnancy/popular culture and head toward college)

[Faraday]

The NAACP is relying on the man responsible for James Bird's being dragged to death behind a pick-up truck in Texas to help turn around black children's education. They must be desperate.

[Down South P.E.]

I choose (as we currently can in this country) to homeschool my children.