NAACP issues call to end inequality in schools

AP ^ | Nov 15 2001 | Tamara Henly

[stainlessbanner]

WASHINGTON

[maxwell]

Yeah well then get up off your b!tchin' a$$es and go mentor some kids or something. Like some real great black American role models I can think of.

/rant

[Principled]

W could fix education overnight with a little help- just:
-eliminate mandatory attendance
-reduce property taxes to the degree that a small tuition would mitigate
-require a small tuition (which may be waived under certain circumstances, like free lunch)
-allow 100% school choice

[marajade]

"OK, but when will he ask the parents, students, and culture to do their part?"

You notice that the NAACP didn't ask the same of their first black president office.

NAACP is just another arm of the DNC and its becoming quite apparent more and more each and every coming day.

[Down South P.E.]

Now that's where you have experience and an advantage over me. I never had the opportunity to teach any grade k-12. From what I know through my friends that teach those grades, instructing on a college level is a cake walk comparatively. I know from my observations that teaching k-12 requires substantially more patience and understanding on the part of the teacher. Bottom line is I've got substantially more respect for the k-12 teachers than any college professor. After all it's the k-12 teachers that get em to college. The difficulties you mention, at least in my experience, don't have to be dealt with on a college level.

As an engineer believe it or not though we try to come up with ways to help persons with disabilities or special needs (not just physically handicap) to intergrate into the job market or help them have a better life style. There are also other agencies public and private with programs that help with this. How effective they are I'm not qualified to answer that. The Lord's got a purpose for all of us though. That much I know.

[ChadGore]

Hello ?!?? NAACP ??!? I have 2 words:

School Choice

[DaBearOne]

How much money do they want this time around? And whose turn is it to pocket the cash? Does anyone really belive that a black student can improve under their current leadership? To me this is just another black on black crime.

[Lancey Howard]

States and districts outline ways to increase the number of day care and preschool programs in low-income communities.

Just what we need - - give them more incentive to have babies like flies.

Maybe all school systems should emulate the Missouri / Kansas City model, lol.

[Teacher317]

School Choice is great start to solving the education dilemma, but remember that it also has many inherent problems (or fails to address other issues): transportation, assignments for preferred schools, the guarantee of failing schools (the nature of competition), the time lag for constructing new buildings, the NEA maintaining power, the inclusion of private/religious/alternative/home schools, what to do with students who simply won't participate, etc.

Some more ideas:

• home school,
• inject more competition for teachers,
• end the NEA's stranglehold,
• eliminate the Dept. of Ed. (at the federal level at least),
• END THE MARXIST COMPULSORY NATURE OF PUBLIC SCHOOLING,
• end tenure rules,
• make it easier to fire bad teachers,
• eliminate the requirements for 'specialists'
• eliminate the requirements for 'inclusion'
• eliminate the requirements for accomodations for every new diagonsis that the psych industry invents on a bi-weekly basis,
• rework the calendar to reflect a non-agricultural society (I work in a school surrounded in every direction by miles of corn fields),
• start spending more time with your own kids to make sure that they know how important education is to you, to their future, and make it a daily part of your interaction with them.

(Keep in mind the ending a requirement does NOT mean eliminating the option!)

Now that we know what to do, let's get it done!!!

[junta]

Who cares anymore?

[Principled]

you're on the mark, teacher. my thoughts were that "total school choice" encompassed these ideas- many of the problems indicated are indeed far better than the problems we have now!

[mafree]

There is/are no:

NAAWP

WET

Congressional White Caucus

White Police Officer's Assn.

Historically White Colleges

etc.

I take it you do approve of this inequality? BTW, at what hypothetical future point-in-time would you say there would not be a need for the NAACP and like organizations?

There is an NAAWP, run by David Duke. Also, though these colleges label themselves "Historically Black Colleges," based on how and why they evolved, no white person is denied admission or discouraged from attending any of them. I attended one and there were quite a few whites in its professional schools.

Institutions and organizations with the word "Black," African American" "Hispanic" or whatever in them usually were started in response to real or perceived inequality in the form of exclusion from opportunity.

Now you and I know that legally, blacks and others are not legally excluded from opportunities but history continues to shape many social, economic and other opportunities no matter what the laws say. Until each of us feels we don't need entities like the NAACP they will continue to exist. I personally can get by without them but then I've never been faced with a situation that I couldn't handle myself.

[Ol' Sparky]

Very true, the black family has fallen apart. Another problem is that those black students that do achieve academically are often ridiculed as being too white and not hip.

[river rat]

" Welfare is ended. "

Where the hell do you live -- where Welfare is ended?
Is your definition of "work", any more realistic than Clinton's meaning of the word - "IS"?
Semper Fi

[stainlessbanner]

The irony of black power in education is that they have destroyed it themselves over the past several years. So many times we have given special programs to the blacks to be fair. So many times they have run them in the ground.

It just happened in my state with a magnet school program. A black H.S. took it over and now, nobody wants to send their kids to the magnet program in the middle of crack city. Doesn't help the blacks, doesn't help the other students who might attend the magnet - it's not helping anybody. However, it does help meet federal racial quotas....

Don't get me started on the consent decree business either. The feds have really hosed up our educational system.

The Lord helps those who help themselves. The blacks need to turn off Springer and rebuild their families in an educated way! PS: It's not racial - all of us could use some improvement. Just not all of us complain like the NAACP.

[mafree]

Maybe we're defining the same thing differently. To me, welfare "reform" has taken place and people now have to work to get benefits, so I define it as work. Since a federal welfare reform act was passed in 1996 I'm sure it's the same in other states.

I'd prefer not to call it welfare since the people are working and the word "welfare" has been used to stigmatize folks long enough.

[mafree]

The irony of black power in education is that they have destroyed it themselves over the past several years.

This is too often true- I've told more than one black education professional that they have no excuse sitting by and allowing black students to fail year after year. If I were some of them I'd be ashamed to pick up a paycheck from a system that fails so many but then, that paycheck does provide for some nice homes, clothes, cars, etc., not to mention private schools for a lot of their kids.

[leadpenny]

The David Duke and a NAAWP reference is so weak it doesn't warrant a comment. However, there is no comparison between whatever organization DD may have started or belongs too, and the NAACP and its extensive network of members who use their power and influence to benefit mainly one segment of society. Maybe you could tell me who your NAAWP County and State representatives are?

Until each of us feels we don't need entities like the NAACP they will continue to exist.

That statement, of course, could be defined as forever. I take it you also mean there will always be a need for me to have BET piped into my home and for a thing like the Congressional Black Caucus to speak as one voice?

You really are sounding an awful lot like the race-baiter Julianne Malveaux. I suggest that you might want to read some of the speeches and writings of Ward Connerly as an alternative to whatever is influencing you now.

[mafree]

..You really are sounding an awful lot like the race-baiter Julianne Malveaux.

Ridiculous. All I've done is try to explain to you why some blacks feel a need to have and support the NAACP and "Black" organizations. If that's race-baiting and if I sound like Malveaux to you then you're beyond trying to have a reasonable discussion with.

I suggest that you might want to read some of the speeches and writings of Ward Connerly as an alternative to whatever is influencing you now.

What influences me is what I've seen and heard in my own life. No black person has ever needed anyone else to tell him how racist this society can be. If you think we are nothing more than mere sponges waiting for JJ, Sharpton, Mfume, etc. to come along and tell us how to think you're sorely mistaken and need to get a clue.

FYI, I've heard Connerly speak in person twice and talked to him after one of those appearances. I've read plenty of articles about him. I support his desire to get beyond labeling by race but I don't need him to influence me any more than I do Malveaux. Understand??

[mafree]

..I take it you also mean there will always be a need for me to have BET piped into my home.

I can't see why BET is so threatening or upsetting to you. Your television has either a remote or a way to change channels or both. You don't like BET, don't point your remote there OK? It's really that simple.

[VRWCmember]

Kweisi Mfume, NAACP president and CEO, said the group is asking President Bush, Education Secretary Rod Paige and school leaders nationwide to cut the racial achievement gap at least 50% over the next 5 years.

In Texas, after Bush had been governor four years, ALL students were doing better. If Mfume and the NAACP want black children to do better in school, they should support Bush's education programs -- especially support for vouchers and oppose the democrats and the nea and their repressive programs that keep blacks ignorant and dependent.