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Southern Baptists shun common prayer
Orlando Sentinel ^ | November 14, 2001 | Mark I. Pinsky

Posted on 11/17/2001 4:23:44 PM PST by gg188

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Political incorrectness exposed by the diversity police!

Someone sent this to me as an example of the egregious intolerance of Baptists. What say ye, Freepers? Or, rather, what do you think *I say in response to the person who sent this to me?

1 posted on 11/17/2001 4:23:44 PM PST by gg188
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To: gg188
As a Baptist, although not Southern, I say I am not the least bit surprised by this, not even a little bit. Well, maybe that they are willing to pray with Pentacostalsdoes give me a bit of a raised eyebrow! :)
Would have expected them to be tabu also.
2 posted on 11/17/2001 4:29:40 PM PST by ladyinred
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To: gg188
Whoa. Billy G. is Baptist, isn't he? Look, Southern Baptists are free to pray with whomever they want. It's called freedom of religion. They're just as patriotic as any other group--maybe more so. I'm not Baptist, but if this is an attempt by a lib journalist to slam them, it won't work.
3 posted on 11/17/2001 4:31:45 PM PST by Recovering_Democrat
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To: gg188
If I take the biblical, "ye must be born again" a certain way, I will not feel comfortable agreeing in prayer with some others who consider themselves Christian--never mind with those who adhere to other faith traditions.

The First Amendment means that I don't have to believe your religion, and you are not required by law to believe mine. If necessary, we agree to disagree.

4 posted on 11/17/2001 4:32:50 PM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion
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To: JHavard; Havoc; OLD REGGIE; Iowegian; PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain; the808bass; is_is...
Bump
5 posted on 11/17/2001 4:34:52 PM PST by RnMomof7
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To: gg188
Ask them if they have been protesting the Amish for the same "narrow-mindedness" over these last many decades?
6 posted on 11/17/2001 4:36:40 PM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: gg188
It doesn't really matter. I mean, everyone has the right to practice their religion any way they want to. This position is one of standing on principles.

That said, I know people who are Baptist who have prayed with me and others of other Christian denominations with no hesitation.

It's a matter of personal preference and I don't see any reason to criticize it.

7 posted on 11/17/2001 4:38:16 PM PST by alnick
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"We believe that Jesus Christ is the only way to heaven. I'm catholic and my mother is seventh-day adventist, Probably the only thing we do have in common is that we believe this also.......??????? are they implying that these religions don't follow Christ?
8 posted on 11/17/2001 4:40:20 PM PST by SouthernFreebird
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For the 15.7 million members of the Southern Baptist Convention, this means not only Jews, Muslims, Buddhists and Hindus, but also Christian denominations they do not consider legitimate, including Roman Catholics, Mormons, Seventh-day Adventists and Jehovah's Witnesses. "We believe that Jesus Christ is the only way to heaven," said the Rev. Dwayne Mercer, pastor of First Baptist Church of Oviedo, explaining why he would not participate in interfaith gatherings, including one scheduled early next year for Central Florida congregations.

I say way to go SBC !

We have too much compromise today..all religious faiths have the right to worship as they please in this country..but there is no law (yet) that forces prayer with groups that are not Christian..and God's word is clear.He does not hear the prayer of those that are not His.

It may not be PC..but it is correct!

9 posted on 11/17/2001 4:46:24 PM PST by RnMomof7
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To: gg188
This is truly an example of Christianity. After all didn't Christ shun the sinners and hang out exclusively with the Pharisees? Let's see the Pharisees were self righteous, intloerant religious people. Who does that remind me of in this article?
10 posted on 11/17/2001 4:48:39 PM PST by Katie_Colic
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Tell Dwayne Mercer that his town, Oviedo, was named by Spanish colonists to honor their city in northern Spain, Oviedo, in the province of Asturias.

Florida and much of the South was first Christianized by Spanish (Catholic) missionaries, many of whom were killed by warring Indian tribes supported by the English. Many Christian Indians were also killed, mostly by non-Christian Indians, again encouraged or even paid by other foreign powers.

So give a little thought to history before you refuse to pray with other Christians.

11 posted on 11/17/2001 4:48:49 PM PST by livius
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It never ceases to amaze me how upset some people get about what other people believe. If the Southern Baptists don't want to pray with other people...what is the big deal? Let them pray by themselves. Let groups who want to pray together, pray together. To me, this is an example of allowing non-believers to stir the pot and create discension among believers. Don't fall for it.
12 posted on 11/17/2001 4:50:22 PM PST by JD86
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To: SouthernFreebird
are they implying that these religions don't follow Christ?

Yes they are. Try living down south.

13 posted on 11/17/2001 4:50:23 PM PST by Katie_Colic
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To: SouthernFreebird
I'm catholic and my mother is seventh-day adventist, Probably the only thing we do have in common is that we believe this also.......??????? are they implying that these religions don't follow Christ?

Please,please, please do not fall into the trap of getting personally offended by the Southern Baptist Convention's position on this. That is what the diversity police and PC nazis want. They want your emotional reaction (as a Catholic, Morman, Jew etc...) to override your logic.

This is about freedom of association. If you are personally offended by their position on this, just forget about it. Thats not the point here.

14 posted on 11/17/2001 4:51:27 PM PST by southern rock
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To: RnMomof7
"He that turneth away his ear from hearing the law, even his prayer shall be abomination." -- Proverbs 28:9
15 posted on 11/17/2001 4:51:29 PM PST by jude24
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To: SouthernFreebird
Ah, I see that Terry McCauliflower has already started his RAT campaigns for the 2002 elections. Having successfully watched divided Republicans blow winnable races in VA and NJ, they are now again trying to divide us.

I'm sure some Moderates will jump on this article as an excuse to sit out or vote Dem or Independent in this next election, thus empowering more Dems(who will promote more abortions, forces religious groups (including churches) to hire homosexuals, restrict free speech, replace private industry with inefficient govt monopolies lacking service, further empower union featherbedding and thuggery, further entrench and solidify corruption, steal more elections, increase our vulnerability by weaking our defenses, sell secrets to our enemies, etc.). Yes, much better than voting for that icky intolerant pro-life Republican who doesn't agree 101% with everything I believe in.

Divide and conquer, and we never seem to learn.

16 posted on 11/17/2001 4:52:41 PM PST by Diddle E. Squat
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Of course, as a Catholic, I disagree with the S. Baptists on several major points and agree on many others (Christ is God, the only way to salvation is through Him and by His grace, the Trinity etc.) Its too bad they don't consider Catholics as Christians, when many of the mainline Protestant denominations they DO accept as Christian difer with them just as fundamentally if not more so. I do respect their steadfastness, however.
17 posted on 11/17/2001 4:54:38 PM PST by Columbo
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To: Recovering_Democrat
Yeah, and I notice the ones brainwashed by postmodernism are flocking here to bash anyone who passes judgement on anyone else. Shame on anyone, they say, who dares to believe that ANYTHING is wrong. In the postmodern world, NOTHING is wrong except believing that ANY thing is wrong.

Here's a little more gas for the fire from a non-Southern Baptist:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/fr/572769/posts

Christian leader condemns Islam

Preacher Franklin Graham calls Islam ‘wicked, violent On the first day of Ramadan, Franklin Graham's comments last month about the Muslim faith are causing problems for the Bush administration.

By Jim Avila

NBC NEWS Nov. 16 — The Bush administration continues to be careful about what it says concerning the religion of Osama bin Laden. However, it turns out that one of Bush’s close friends in the American religious establishment has had some very harsh words for the Muslim faith. There is fallout from such remarks made last month by Franklin Graham.

FRANKLIN GRAHAM is one of America’s most powerful Christian leaders. He delivered the benediction at George W. Bush’s inauguration. His father, Billy, counseled a long list of presidents. But now Franklin is in trouble with political friends for comments made recently, calling the entire Islamic religion “wicked, violent and not of the same God.”

“I don’t believe this is a wonderful, peaceful religion,” said Graham. “When you read the Koran and you read the verses from the Koran, it instructs the killing of the infidel, for those that are non-Muslim.”

Asked by NBC News to clarify his statement, Graham repeated his charge that Islam, as a whole, is an evil.

“It wasn’t Methodists flying into those buildings, it wasn’t Lutherans,” said Graham. “It was an attack on this country by people of the Islamic faith.”

Meanwhile, Ramadan, the holiest season of the Muslim year, has begun. Graham’s comments came as Bush, himself a deeply religious Christian, wished the world’s 1 billion Muslims, “health, prosperity and happiness during Ramadan.”

“Islam never teaches hatred, Islam never teaches terrorism,” says Imam Hassan Al-Qazwini of the Islamic Center of America.

The White House also distanced itself from Graham’s remarks Friday, saying the president “views Islam as a religion that preaches peace,” and that the terrorists do not represent what Islam teaches.

None of the other Christian leaders contacted by NBC News, including Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson, would comment on Graham’s attacks.

“Obviously, Mr. Graham is tone deaf in this respect,” says Newsweek religion editor Ken Woodward. “He’s certainly not his father’s son in terms of discretion.”

A presidential friend and supporter now finds himself at odds with both the Muslim world and the message from the White House.

18 posted on 11/17/2001 4:57:41 PM PST by gg188
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To: Katie_Colic
As a Baptist, I personally don't want some of the other denominations praying for me. As an American, I can make that claim :^)
19 posted on 11/17/2001 4:57:45 PM PST by chadwimc
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I am so sick of the intolerance between some religions. The Southern Babtists are amongst the worst. Just where do they think their religion started......

All religion, no matter what you believe, started so long ago and in the same place that it doesn't even make sense. You believe what you believe and that is it.

Don't tell me that yours is better than mine or anyone else's. If you do, you are nothing but a hipocrite. Where do you get off telling anyone that?

For those of you that think that your religion is any better than others, just stuff it.......

20 posted on 11/17/2001 4:58:22 PM PST by SeaDragon
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