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GOTTA SEE THIS - DOD Released Pictures of U.S. troops riding horseback
DOD ^ | 11/16/01 | President Bush and the valiant US military

Posted on 11/16/2001 1:26:56 PM PST by Diogenesis

GOTTA SEE THIS - DOD Has Released Large size Pictures of U.S. troops riding horseback with members of the Northern Alliance in Afghanistan.



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To: Dengar01
Diddo that. Hasn't been since the early 1900s that the US troops are riding them horses huh?

It was a mite later than that. Even during WW-II the Army maintained a replacement mount station at I belive Ft. Robinson, in Nebraska. Mostly used as beasts of burden by that time, but there were still some mounted calvary at the beginning of WW-II, IIRC. I know horses were used to carry supplies, guns, and even small cannon, in Italy, in the Pacific, probably in Burma, New Guinea, etc.

Besides didn't you ever watch MASH? Col.(Dr.) Potter was an ex Calvery type, from the pre WW-II era.

141 posted on 11/16/2001 2:46:42 PM PST by El Gato
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To: Diogenesis
This brings up the image a la Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid....Osama and Mullah Omar peering down a valley seeing this posse approaching and saying to each other....Who are those guys!!??
142 posted on 11/16/2001 2:51:59 PM PST by xp38
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To: GreenLanternCorps
That makes them Mounted Infrantry not Cavalry.

You mean we have American Lighthorsemen? Way Cool!!

143 posted on 11/16/2001 3:06:23 PM PST by SuziQ
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To: El Gato
Hey, I tried that horseback stunt in Korea. My pisspot kept thumpin my nose so I turned that wind broke nag loose and went back to bein' a grunt.
144 posted on 11/16/2001 3:09:31 PM PST by cannonball
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To: Born to Conserve
#126 He asked for it, doing it the 2d time after someone mentioned it.
145 posted on 11/16/2001 3:10:52 PM PST by katze
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To: GreenLanternCorps
These soldiers are riding their mounts to the battlefield and then dismounting.

How do you know they'll dismount to fight? Most of the time they probably will, but maybe not always. I've seen pictures of Chinese or Mongolian troopers riding very similiar horses, full gallop and firing an AK in full auto. A Double Dose of Rock n Roll, as it were.

Fighting afoot would technically make them Dragoons, although historically, especially in America, Dragoons often fought mounted and Calvary sometimes fought afoot, blurring the distinction.

146 posted on 11/16/2001 3:11:02 PM PST by El Gato
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To: Diogenesis
What is this, some kind of joke? I'm pretty sure that picture was taken in Texas.
147 posted on 11/16/2001 3:12:49 PM PST by lewislynn
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To: 45Auto
As long as the pilots are carrying their .45's.

I don't know that USAF pilots ever had .45s. They had .38s at one time, since replaced by the M-9, 9mm. Many of course "requisitioned" .45s if they could, or supplied their own. I had a friend, not a pilot, but he did fly on occasion, who had his own .44 and/or .357 magnum wheelgun to keep him company at night over the Ho Chi Minh Trail.

148 posted on 11/16/2001 3:15:48 PM PST by El Gato
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To: Diogenesis
This was posted yesterday, but it is relevant to this thread and it's inspiring. Please overlook the redundancy.

Wolfowitz Shares Special Forces' Afghanistan Dispatches just released by the American Forces Press Service

WASHINGTON, Nov. 15, 2001 -- The Northern Alliance and other opposition groups have made tremendous progress in Afghanistan -- last week, they controlled about 15 percent of the country and today control about half.

Defense officials said U.S. air support was pivotal in the battle. In his after-dinner keynote address at the Fletcher Conference here Nov. 14, Deputy Defense
Secretary Paul Wolfowitz spread the credit among all those participating.

The Fletcher Conference is jointly sponsored by the Institute for Foreign Policy Analysis and the Army. The theme this year is "National Security for a New Era."

"Success in this campaign has come not just from our remarkable ability to fly bombers from bases in Missouri halfway around the world to strike targets with great
precision," he said. "Success has also come from putting extraordinarily brave men on the ground so they could direct that air power and make it truly effective."

Wolfowitz read to the audience the contents of two situation reports U.S. Special Forces soldiers sent from Afghanistan. The dispatches testify to the role the men
have played and will play in the campaign in Afghanistan, he said. Wolfowitz said he removed all classified information before sharing these dispatches.

The first is dated Oct. 25:
"I am advising a man on how to best employ light infantry and horse cavalry in the attack against Taliban T-55s (tanks) ... mortars, artillery, personnel
carriers and machine guns -- a tactic which I think became outdated with the introduction of the Gatling gun. (The Mujahadeen) have done this every day
we have been on the ground. They have attacked with 10 rounds AK's per man, with PK gunners (snipers) having less than 100 rounds ... little water and
less food. I have observed a PK gunner who walked 10-plus miles to get to the fight, who was proud to show me his artificial right leg from the knee
down. ...

"We have witnessed the horse cavalry bounding overwatch from spur to spur to attack Taliban strong points -- the last several kilometers under mortar,
artillery ... and PK fire. There is little medical care if injured, only a donkey ride to the aid station, which is a dirt hut. I think (the Mujahadeen) are doing
very well with what they have. They have killed over 125 Taliban ... while losing only eight.

"We couldn't do what we are (doing) without the close air support. ... Everywhere I go the civilians and Mujahadeen soldiers are always telling me they are
glad the USA has come. ... They all speak of their hopes for a better Afghanistan once the Taliban are gone. Better go. (The local commander) is finishing
his phone call with (someone back in the States)."

Wolfowitz said the soldier then went off and joined a cavalry attack on a Taliban position.

The second dispatch is dated Nov. 10:

"Departed position from which I spoke to you last night ... (We left) on horse and linked up with the remainder of (the element). I had meeting with (the
commander). ... We then departed from our initial linkup location and rode into Mazar-e Sharif on begged, borrowed and confiscated transportation.

"While it looked like a rag-tag procession, the morale into Mazar-e Sharif was a triumphal procession. All locals loudly greeted us and thanked all
Americans. Much waving, cheering and clapping even from the women. ... USN/USAF did a great job.

"I am very proud of these men who have performed exceptionally well under very extreme conditions. I have personally witnessed heroism under fire by
(two U.S. NCOs - - one Army, one Air Force) when we came under fire last night, which was less than 50 meters from me. When I ordered them to call
close air support, they did so immediately without flinching even though they were under ... fire. As you know, a (U.S. element) was nearly overrun four
days ago and continued to call close air support and ensured (Mujahadeen) forces did not suffer a defeat. These two examples are typical of the
performance of your soldiers and airmen. Truly uncommon valor has been a common virtue amongst these men."



149 posted on 11/16/2001 3:20:20 PM PST by Fifth Business
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To: c-five
I want to see pix of airmen dumping bales of hay out of a C-130. I'm sure none of this was practiced stateside! Heck they do that all the time stateside, whenever a particularly nasty blizzard hits out on the plains. At least the Air Guard does. I know the OK-ANG C-130 unit that my EI (Engineering and Installations) Sqaudron was based with had flown such missions the winter before I joined the EI squadron. They were known locally as the "Hay Haulers" for a while after that.
150 posted on 11/16/2001 3:29:12 PM PST by El Gato
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To: wildehunt
I'd be willing to bet that the biggest share of these horse riding special forces grew up with horses, rodeo or other work related to handling these magnificent animals. If you want to progress beyond the point of a tourist on a dude ranch, it isn't something you learn with a few weeks of training.
151 posted on 11/16/2001 3:29:36 PM PST by Rubber Duckie
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To: AlaskaErik
Seems to me that everyone is wearing a diaper on their head. I don't see no GIs in there.

They are ones in the chocolate chip pattern BDU's. They may very well be wearing turbins to fit in. SF troopers don't take long to "Go Native". It's their job actually, training of and liason with allied troops, especially indiginous and/or irregular forces.

152 posted on 11/16/2001 3:32:44 PM PST by El Gato
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To: onedoug
Garryowen is on this link.
153 posted on 11/16/2001 3:33:53 PM PST by Rubber Duckie
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To: Rubber Duckie
Are any of you other ladies, there are ladies here I think, in love with Rummy?? I think he is the cutest thing I have seen since Judge Sauls.
154 posted on 11/16/2001 3:36:00 PM PST by cajungirl
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To: lodwick
Hmmmm... he can't be far behind...
155 posted on 11/16/2001 3:43:23 PM PST by austinTparty
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To: Diogenesis
You know the military guys riding these horses are REALLY PROUD of their upbringing, where they learned to ride. I know they have been razzed by some for being a 'cowboy', but now the razzers are the ones who are jealous!

Also, I noted the Northern Alliance is allowing the democrats to get involved - he-haw!!

Semper Fi,
Norb

156 posted on 11/16/2001 3:52:53 PM PST by Norb2569
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To: Diogenesis
me I love the BURROS!!! ROFL they nice little beasts!!! ROFL one time when we were hiking in the Elwha on the Olympic Pennisula we ran into a pack string that had a burro that was Basically on its owm... NO string to the horses!!!! ROFL when the straw boss saw he was lagging behind he called out "Come ON Johnson!!!" and along he came!!! ROFL:-))))
157 posted on 11/16/2001 3:54:52 PM PST by Roger_W_Isom
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To: cajungirl
Yes, I love Rummy and I love men who ride horses!!hm,hm,hm!
158 posted on 11/16/2001 3:56:08 PM PST by poweqi
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To: one_particular_harbour
I think it is extremely neat that the first war of the 21st century saw the world's most technologically advanced soldiers use horses.

That's it. I knew there was somethig unique about that that got to me but I couldn't pinpoint it. That's what is was.

159 posted on 11/16/2001 3:57:14 PM PST by riley1992
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To: Diogenesis
Buford's Boys Memorial Bump!


160 posted on 11/16/2001 3:57:57 PM PST by ravinson
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