Posted on 11/16/2001 1:22:43 PM PST by kattracks
It was a rare Kodak media moment.
New York Senator Hillary Clinton discussed in a no-holds-barred fashion on national TV - in a way that made it clear neither she nor her husband would have ever been elected dog catcher, let alone to high national office, but for the protection of the mainstream media's praetorian guard.
Such was the drama that unfolded Thursday night, as Fox News Channel's Bill O'Reilly dissected Sen. Clinton's performance in the wake of the 9/11 disaster.
Newsmax.com was there, as NewsMax columnist former congressman Dan Frisa crossed swords with Hillary surrogate Geraldine Ferraro - no debating slouch she - in a performance that laid bare one of the great political charades of our time.
The telling confrontation will no doubt go unmentioned elsewhere. And so NewsMax.com offers the transcript in full:
O'REILLY: Has the junior senator from New York, Hillary Clinton, been effective in the aftermath of the terror attacks? She has kept a remarkably low profile. She took some criticism for her mannerisms during the president's speech right after the attack and then she was roundly booed at the benefit concert for the police and firefighters at Madison Square Garden. (Clip showing Hillary being booed.)
Not a good moment for Mrs. Clinton. And she was also MIA at the World Series. With us now is Fox News analyst Geraldine Ferraro, a former congressperson from New York - as is Dan Frisa. Of course, Mr. Frisa is a Republican, Ms. Ferraro's a Democrat.
O'REILLY: So what has Hillary Clinton done in the two months since the attack?
FERRARO: Well, let me comment on both of those tapes that you just put out before I give you that. She was booed, you're right, at that event. Politicians do not do well at sports events or at rock concerts.
O'REILLY: But no other politician was booed ...
FERRARO: I was booed at a Knicks game while I was sitting in a paid seat. I had paid for it.
O'REILLY: That's because you were rooting for the Sixers.
FERRARO (laughing) Well, let me tell you ...
O'REILLY: Look, George Pataki wasn't booed. Giuliani wasn't booed. Even Bill Clinton wasn't booed.
FERRARO: Let me tell you what - they didn't boo when she was down at Ground Zero expressing sympathy. They didn't boo when she got $20 billion and pushed that legislation. They didn't boo when she authored legislation to have a 9/11 stamp that will give money to the families from that stamp ...
O'REILLY: Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Give me one specific thing, Ms. Ferraro, give me one specific thing she's done for New York state since 9/11.
FERRARO: Well, what she's done is she has been the person who has pushed most - she and Chuck Schumer, you can't just say just Hillary - the two of them have pushed for the $20 billion ...
O'REILLY: It was a unanimous vote. You didn't have to push for that. It was a unanimous vote.
FERRARO: Hey, wait a minute. How does it get introduced? How is it moved? How is it unanimous? It's not automatic.
O'REILLY: I could have got Blinky the hamburger guy. Blinky the hamburger guy could have introduced that and it would have gotten passed. Anything else besides that?
FERRARO: No, no, absolutely not. In order to figure out what was going on with the Republicans in the Senate, she did get a unanimous vote.
O'REILLY: She didn't do it. Everybody voted for that. Blinky could have got it done.
FERRARO: Oh, Bill - it doesn't - he'll tell you things don't happen automatically in the Congress.
FRISA: No, I gotta side with Blinky on this one, Bill. Anybody could have gotten that passed.
FERRARO: Oh, God ...
FRISA: It was a disaster. It was a horror show. The president called Hillary and Chuck Schumer to the White House and said, "What do you need - you got it."
FERRARO: Were you there when she ...
FRISA: She didn't carry any water on that one.
O'REILLY: Wait a minute. They went back for another $10 billion and they got defeated. They got defeated, right? So Hillary didn't pull that one out of the fire, did she?
FERRARO: Listen, you know what? The thing that happens is when you go down to the Senate, you are a hundred people and she is one of the hundred. She is representing New York state ...
O'REILLY: But what has she done?
FERRARO: She brings - I'm telling you, you wouldn't let me finish - she authored legislation to have a stamp that will end up - it's a 9/11 stamp that will end up taking all the ...
O'REILLY: A stamp?
FERRARO: It's a postal service, a postage stamp. So when it's sold, that money will go to the families of the victims. She has authored legislation that will allow for the victims' families to have mental health services.
O'REILLY: That's already been taken care of.
FERRARO: What more do you ...
O'REILLY: Oh, I'm glad you asked that. What more ...
FERRARO: Well, what do you want?
O'REILLY: Here's what I want. Mrs. Clinton ...
FERRARO: She also brought 40 senators down to Ground Zero so they would vote for that ...
O'REILLY: Blinky could have brought them down.
FERRARO: Oh, come on.
O'REILLY: Wait, wait ...
FERRARO: But Blinky did not, she did.
O'REILLY: He didn't have Secret Service clearance. Mrs. Clinton has not visited one family that has been affected by the terror. Not one. She did not go to one funeral.
FERRARO: Yes, she did. She gave the eulogy at the chaplain, Chaplain Judge's services.
O'REILLY: I'm talking about the folks here. Not the regular - she didn't go to one family. Not visit one. She didn't go to one of the funerals of any of the folks. Can you defend that?
FERRARO: I most certainly can. You know, she's down in the Senate doing her work. Now let me also say ...
O'REILLY: Wait. I gotta let Frisa get in here. Go ahead.
FRISA: I think that's a poor excuse. I mean, the Senate is not in five days a week or six days a week or seven days a week. She could have certainly attended some of those funerals.
The other thing is she has not comported herself with the dignity that we've come to expect from a United States senator. She's actually hurting New York's case by making comments that blame the Bush tax cut for us not being able to respond appropriately after 9/11. She's also made comments using this tragedy to try and gain sympathy for herself by saying that Chelsea was in a position where she could have been hurt - where she was not.
FERRARO: Oh, whoa, whoa, whoa. Hold on one minute, Oh, come on.
FRISA: Chelsea herself admitted in Talk magazine ...
O'REILLY: Let's give Ms. Ferraro the last word.
FERRARO: The child was down there. As a mother, as a father, the two of them did not know where Chelsea was and they did what every parent did, which is they went to a panic mode.
FRISA: But every parent didn't make up a story, Gerry, about where their daughter was.
FERRARO: They didn't make up a story. They both agreed that ...
FRISA: She did. She made it up that Chelsea was jogging around the Trade Center [when] she was 30 blocks uptown.
FERRARO: They both agreed that she was downtown. Whether she was jogging or she was walking, it doesn't make any difference.
O'REILLY: All right. We gotta go. But I was just amazed that she didn't visit one family, not one. (End of segment)
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Since Hillary made her "lifelong Yankee fan" declaration in 1999, the Yankees have played approximately 200 regular season home games, and been in all three rounds of the playoffs three years in a row, and she hasn't been to one game. Bill Clinton did make it the Stadium once -- the Yankees against the Mariners -- and it was the one game that the Yanks lost to Seattle!
Don't forget about Staten Island, where they not only gave a majority of votes to Lazio, but actually has a non-RINO Republican Congressman!
ROTFLMAO...EXCELLENT
That might be true in Massachusetts, but it's not in NY. Are you a Tedward Kennedy Freeper?
You owe Brett Summers an apology!
(10) She was at her digs in Washington baking cookies. ( 9) Her "Trained Pig" Secret Service agent misplaced her Yankees cap, and the jacket hides the trademark pantsuit. ( 8) The sky marshall on her broom was too much drag and she was late getting there. ( 7) She really was there in a "Donald Trump" costume, with a woman whose last name ended in an "a" thingy.. ( 6) Shes still wandering around ground zero looking for a fireman who will shake her hand. ( 5) She was home proofreading Chelsea's near death experience essay for Talk Magazine. ( 4) An aide, who told her the season had ended in May, thought she was a Cubs fan. ( 3) She went to the Meadowlands by mistake. ( 2) She couldn't turn the game experience into a fund raiser. ( 1) She really isn't in a "New York Frame of Mind".
The Irish heritage firefighters and policemen will be putting their Xs next to the Ds (socialists)as their fathers and grandfathers did before them.
You're painting NYC cops and fireman with a broad brush: NYC voted for Clinton therefore all NYC cops and firemen are Democrats.
Comparable logic: America voted Clinton into the White House twice, therefore all Americans including aculeus and Captain Tom are Democrats and supporters of Clinton.
The people -- mostly cops and firemen -- who booed Hillary at that NYC rally did not learn to dislike her overnight.
Scared the heck outta me!
Best one yet!
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One jail cell, and in it, Hillary, Bubba, Reno, and Osama bin Laden.
No clothes, no coke, no cigars. Live on a 24 hour web cam.
Hehehhe
My loathing for Sen. Kennedy cannot be expressed.
As far as me painting people with a broad brush it goes without saying that it couldn't possibly include everyone in that group.
Being from an Irish background I have lived all my life around politics. I doubt very much that the Irish in NY are a different breed than the Irish in Boston.
As far as the Freeper who told me that there were a lot of republicans in the queens section I looked up the results of the senate and congressional elections and the dems whalloped the repubs by more than two to one in all but 2 out of 14 seats.
NY like Mass. are socialist states. Face up to it.
NY just got mugged so there is a possibility of a change of heart. -Tom
I know that one shouldn't argue with a Captain but being (1) of 100% Irish descent and (2) from Queens (summers in Rockaway, no less) I assure you that my parents and most of their Irish-American friends and relatives stopped voting for Democrats (nationally; some of the locals were okay) in the 1940s-1950s.
The Brooklyn Tablet (official Catholic paper covering Brooklyn and Queens) was then so anti-communist that it had ads for bronze busts of Joe McCarthy. The editor of that paper (a Rockaway neighbor of my family) was a Roosevelt-hater as were the people who read The Tablet or the daily anti-communist anti-Roosevelt and anti-Democrat papers like the old Journal-American and (yes) the New York Daily News. (The NY Post was then left-wing.)
Most of my relatives and friends were Irish-Americans but do you know how old I was when I met my first IRA-supporting Irish-American? Twenty-nine! (He was from the Bronx which is socially more like Boston than Queens.)
I don't understand the Boston Irish but I am pleased that my ancestors settled in NYC and not in Kennedy-land. You have my sympathy.
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