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Bin Laden's Nuclear Secrets Found In al-Qaeda's Kabul Safe House
The Times (UK) ^ | 11-15-2001 | Anthony Loyd

Posted on 11/16/2001 1:11:24 PM PST by blam

THURSDAY NOVEMBER 15 2001

Bin Laden's nuclear secrets found in al-Qaeda's Kabul safe houses

FROM ANTHONY LOYD IN KABUL

Times reporter finds blueprint for 'Nagasaki bomb'

Singed files left by fleeing terrorists

OSAMA BIN LADEN’S al-Qaeda network held detailed plans for nuclear devices and other terrorist bombs in one of its Kabul headquarters.
The Times discovered the partly burnt documents in a hastily abandoned safe house in the Karta Parwan quarter of the city. Written in Arabic, German, Urdu and English, the notes give detailed designs for missiles, bombs and nuclear weapons. There are descriptions of how the detonation of TNT compresses plutonium into a critical mass, sparking a chain reaction, and ultimately a thermonuclear reaction.

Both President Bush and British ministers are convinced that bin Laden has access to nuclear material and Mr Bush said earlier this month that al-Qaeda was “seeking chemical, biological and nuclear weapons”.

The discovery of the detailed bomb-making instructions, along with studies into chemical and nuclear devices, confirms the West’s worst fears and raises the spectre of plans for an attack that would far exceed the September 11 atrocities in scale and gravity.

Nuclear experts say the design suggests that bin Laden may be working on a fission device, similar to Fat Man, the bomb dropped on Nagasaki. However, they emphasised that it was extremely difficult to build a viable warhead.

While the terrorists may not yet have the capability to build such weapons, their hopes of doing so are clear. One set of notes, written on headed notepaper from the Hotel Grand in Peshawar and dated April 26, 1998, says: “Naturally the explosive liquid has a very high mechanical energy which is translated into destructive force. “But it can be tamed, controlled and can be used as a useful propulsive fuel if certain methods are applied to it. A supersonic moving missile has a shock wave. That shock wave can be used to contain an external combustion behind the missile . . .”

The document was one of many found in two of four al-Qaeda houses which had been used by Arabs and Pakistanis and even reportedly by bin Laden himself. The houses — two in the Karta Parwan district and the others further to the east — were abandoned on Monday night as Taleban units and their allies fled the city in the face of the Northern Alliance advance.

Attempts had been made to burn the evidence, but many documents still remained. They included studies into the development of a kinetic energy supergun capable of firing chemical or nuclear warheads, external propulsion missiles, preliminary research on the creation of a thermonuclear device, as well as a multitude of instructions for making smaller bombs.

There were also studies into Western special forces’ hostage rescue techniques, phone numbers for industrial chemical and synthetic producers, flight manuals, aerodynamic research, and advanced physics and chemistry manuals.

The houses were checked after being identified by local people. Afghan looters had concentrated on removing more appetising objects, ignoring foreign language documents that were of no use to them.

Bin Laden has said it is his “religious duty” to obtain a nuclear bomb. In an interview with the Pakistani journalist Hamid Mir last week, he claimed that al-Qaeda had nuclear capability and said: “I wish to declare that if America used chemical or nuclear weapons against us then we may retort with chemical and nuclear weapons as deterrent." Intelligence agencies already have indirect evidence from defectors, middlemen and scientists of Bin Laden’s obsession with obtaining or producing a nuclear device.

Al-Qaeda agents are known to have spent more than £1 million trying to obtain enough fissile material to make a “dirty bomb” that, if detonated with TNT in a populous area, could kill thousands and contaminate it for decades.

Intelligence sources told The Times last month that bin Laden and al-Qaeda had acquired nuclear materials illegally from Pakistan. And at least ten Pakistani nuclear scientists have been contacted by agents for the Taleban and al-Qaeda in the past two years, according to reports.

The knowledge that bin Laden has components for a nuclear weapon is believed to lie behind the warnings from President Bush and Tony Blair that he would commit worse atrocities than the suicide assaults in America if he could.

The Prime Minister’s official spokesman said: “Bin Laden would have killed 600,000 people on September 11 if he could have done. This simply underlines again why he has to be stopped.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: alqaida; nukes; terrorwar; wmd
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To: blam
The majority of the bomb-making instructions were easy to understand and used domestic items, including Alka Seltzer tubes, condoms, wax, mousetraps and cigarettes as contact switches to initiate charges.

Sure, we spend all that money on kryton (sp?) switches 'cause they are cool.

41 posted on 11/16/2001 1:11:41 PM PST by Straight Vermonter
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To: Senator Pardek
The more I see crap like this, the more convinced I am that Al Queda does not have the means to build an effective one (yet).

If they had one, they would have used it, by now.

43 posted on 11/16/2001 1:11:42 PM PST by Cool Guy
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To: blam
"... My first ever breaking news post."

KG9 Rated:

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45 posted on 11/16/2001 1:11:42 PM PST by The KG9 Kid
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To: blam
Congratulations and a good post. But, the post is unnecessary. You see, if by some horrible happenstance, a nuclear device IS detonated in our cities, it will not be OBL. It will be an illusion--just air turbulence from a jet aircraft that blew the buildings apart.
46 posted on 11/16/2001 1:11:43 PM PST by jammer
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To: blam
"Nuclear experts say the design suggests that bin Laden may be working on a fission device, similar to Fat Man, the bomb dropped on Nagasaki."

This probably won't work too well being dropped from a camel......

47 posted on 11/16/2001 1:11:43 PM PST by yooper
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To: blam
Excellent post!
Now everyone relax.
This information has been available for years. Richard Rhodes's book "The Making of the Atomic Bomb" contains only de-classified information on the subject but has all sorts of drawings and photos.

Most of his work came from Nuclear Historian, Chuck Hansen.

48 posted on 11/16/2001 1:11:43 PM PST by Zathras
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To: okie_tech
"Stanislaw Ulam, a brilliant Polish mathematician from the University of Wisconsin, went to Los Alamos to solve the implosion problem. The problem was to calculate the actions of several explosions to some workable mathematical model. His solution was to surround the plutonium core with high explosives. The high explosives were cast into spheres, called lenses, and wired so they would all fire at the same instant. The pressure caused from the explosions on all sides of the sphere focused the shock waves inward on the plutonium core. The plutonium core compressed in on itself until it reached critical mass and exploded, as proven during the Trinity test"

Sample of 10 second google search

49 posted on 11/16/2001 1:11:44 PM PST by bert
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To: blam
This is somewhat reassuring to me. The info provided here is very elementary. Apparently, they are trying to understand how the *bomb* works. Need a lot more than that to construct one and then deliver it. Buying one is another matter.
50 posted on 11/16/2001 1:11:44 PM PST by A Navy Vet
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To: Cyber Liberty; Hoplite
The opening of "Allah's Suitcase" by Islamic entente operatives will topple the West and plunge mankind into a modern Dark Age. Simultaneous one point five kiloton blasts in the United States and UK -- boosted to double the yield -- will kill tens of thousands and collapse the shaky Western economic infrastructure.

Millions to die in the Third World War. The wise man Cheney recently preparing America for further catastrophic casualties. The CIA well aware these devices already prepositioned and in a frantic race against time to discover their locations.

The White House hires a new PR director last week and this week the Taliban is "collapsing." Sure -- of course they are...

Now thousands of US and British troops will reach the ground in Afghanistan before Winter -- or else have the entire world witness the butchery and brutality of Iranian and Russian sponsored Northern "alliance" forces. Very clever Mr Putin -- you have used Maskirovka like a master to construct a modern day Dien Bien Phu...

Khyber Pass -- or Kasserine Pass?

Osama bin Laden warned last week for Muslims not to fly in the US and UK and now a plane mysteriously "falls apart" in Queens. Osama bin Laden warned last week he would go nuclear -- now no doubts "if" -- only when remains to be determined.

The effect of such a nuclear detonation in an older metropolitan downtown area will be horrific. Combined with radiological elements in the blast, entire city grids will be uninhabitable for years.

Yet oil prices continue to sink...

Like Custer at the Little Big Horn, the West charges into Afghanistan smelling a rout. Surely, they think, such mindless savages cannot stand up to superior repeating rifles and fine uniforms...

The end of the Western epoch draws near...

The forces of freedom on the move. Europe trembles.

51 posted on 11/16/2001 1:11:44 PM PST by Fusion
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To: The KG9 Kid
I want more stories and video from Kandahar. Things look pretty tense in that southern oasis (bathing optional) village. I just saw Fox videophone footage with some angry looking arab and north african al queda.
53 posted on 11/16/2001 1:11:55 PM PST by kingh99
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To: mlbford
They left all that there to be found on purpose. Just to bolster Osama's claim he has nukes. Very transparent.

ABSOLUTELY !!!!

54 posted on 11/16/2001 1:11:56 PM PST by clamper1797
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To: blam; CheneyChick; vikingchick; WIMom; one_particular_harbour; kmiller1k; Victoria Delsoul...
"The vernacular quickly spun out of my comprehension but there were phrases through the mass of chemical symbols and physics jargon that anyone could understand, including notes on how the detonation of TNT compresses plutonium into a critical mass producing a nuclear chain reaction and eventually a thermo-nuclear reaction.

This was only what was left behind by frightened men escaping the advance of the Mujahidin.

The sensitive material is still with them."

Uh-oh.


55 posted on 11/16/2001 1:11:56 PM PST by Sabertooth
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To: Renegade
Won't get a thermonuclear reaction from compressing plutonium without the Deuterium jacket. You get the run of the mill fission bomb.

I noticed that too. I think it's more the reporter trying to use big words though.

56 posted on 11/16/2001 1:11:57 PM PST by jae471
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To: blam
Well blam if you didn't do good! Everybody sing!

Go ahead and break the news 'cause you're too late to break ma heart.......

57 posted on 11/16/2001 1:11:57 PM PST by smorgle
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To: Fusion
BU!!SH!T
58 posted on 11/16/2001 1:11:57 PM PST by clamper1797
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To: blam

59 posted on 11/16/2001 1:11:58 PM PST by classygreeneyedblonde
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To: classygreeneyedblonde
Hey binnyboy! All that work to get those nuclear secrets and too bad you are dead meat before you can use them. Gee, you coulda spent your money on flashy cars like all your relatives instead. They may be rich ragheads but they are alive.
60 posted on 11/16/2001 1:11:58 PM PST by The Kitten
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